var json_comments = new Array("<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-16564792\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=936906\"><img        src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=936906\">NeverLetMeDown</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/11/toyota-says-its-not-hiding-anything-in-runaway-cars-investigation.html#comment-16564792\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-11-13T16:35:26-05:00\">November 13, 2009  4:35 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(16564792);\">Moderate</a> |</span>	<script type=\"text/javascript\" src=\"http://consumerist.com/mt-static/plugins/Moderate/moderate.js\"></script>	<script type=\"text/javascript\">		successMsg = \"\";	</script><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=16564792');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p><p>No doubt that a lot of these complaints are related to the floor mats, but a major portion are almost certainly people who are stepping on the gas rather than the brake (a la the Audi 5000).</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(16564792, 'NeverLetMeDown')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->									<div class=\"num-replies\">3 replies</div>	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-16594102\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=563714\"><img        src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=563714\">Gravitational Eddy</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/11/toyota-says-its-not-hiding-anything-in-runaway-cars-investigation.html#comment-16594102\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-11-13T16:35:34-05:00\">November 13, 2009  4:35 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(16594102);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=16594102');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p><p>@<a href=\"http://consumerist.com/5398123/toyota-says-its-not-hiding-anything-in-runaway-cars-investigation#c16564792\" rel=\"nofollow\">NeverLetMeDown</a>: <br />Gee, and all these years I thought the Audi trouble was a badly designed throttle cable linked to a transmission lever that actuated the throttle. IIRC, the accelerator pedal was not tied to the engine but to the automatic transmission. Trouble was, the transmission had a tendency to create a high pressure hydraulic \"surge\" that would cause the actual transmission-to-engine throttle cable to open the \"real\" throttle actuator on the engine. Once that surge started, it wouldn't go away because the engine was now speeding up (as a direct result of the throttle being locked wide open by the transmission cable)<br />It was most noticable at lower speeds, which could get very dangerous, very quickly. sooner or later the engine would be going WFO (redline) and the hapless operator would be standing on the brakes to try to stop moving. Rather than trying to turn off the ignition, owners would try to steer the car and at the same time brake. Useless strategy, because the engine makes more than enough power to overcome the brakes action.<br />End result? You get to crash the car in the parking lot, which was where a great many of those Audi's crashed due to the fact the transmission failure happened during the first few seconds after the car was started.<br />And don't get me started on those GM cruise control modules that happened to be turned \"on\" (as in engage the cruise control) if the car was in nuetral and idleing at the curb. Instant catastrophic engine failure at +10,000 RPM. Once engaged, the cruise control would call for more and more throttle because it wasn't seeing a speedometer increase.</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(16594102, 'Gravitational Eddy')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->                    <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-16564857\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=346253\"><img        src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=346253\">Orv</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/11/toyota-says-its-not-hiding-anything-in-runaway-cars-investigation.html#comment-16564857\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-11-13T16:35:26-05:00\">November 13, 2009  4:35 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(16564857);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=16564857');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c16564792\" rel=\"nofollow\">NeverLetMeDown</a>: Yeah, I immediately thought of Audi's \"unintended acceleration\" flap, too.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(16564857, 'Orv')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-16566652\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=388919\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-388919-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=388919\">PunditGuy</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/11/toyota-says-its-not-hiding-anything-in-runaway-cars-investigation.html#comment-16566652\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-11-13T16:35:26-05:00\">November 13, 2009  4:35 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(16566652);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=16566652');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c16564857\" rel=\"nofollow\">Orv</a>: P.J. O'Rourke wrote about the Audi 5000 fiasco in \"Parliament of Whores.\" The gist of the story was that the government could not, for purely political reasons, blame consumers for something that was plainly the fault of the consumer.</p><p>Far be it for me to draw parallel conclusions.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(16566652, 'PunditGuy')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-16587598\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a 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title=\"2009-11-13T16:35:26-05:00\">November 13, 2009  4:35 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(16565189);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=16565189');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>Why hasn't anyone ever put a notice next to the airbag warning with something like \"Should the accelerator become stuck, shift the car into neutral and safely pull over at the nearest safe opportunity.\"?</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(16565189, 'Nick1693')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->									<div class=\"num-replies\">3 replies</div>	    </div><!-- end 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PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(16565882);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=16565882');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c16565189\" rel=\"nofollow\">Nick1693</a>: There's usually words to that effect in the owner's manual, I think.  Although owner's manuals have gotten crazy thick with warnings.  The one for the '99 Chevy Malibu warns that if the car catches fire, it will be damaged, and the damage will not be covered by the warranty.  No joke.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(16565882, 'Orv')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-16571426\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=535696\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-535696-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=535696\">ohenry</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/11/toyota-says-its-not-hiding-anything-in-runaway-cars-investigation.html#comment-16571426\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-11-13T16:35:28-05:00\">November 13, 2009  4:35 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(16571426);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=16571426');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p><p>@<a href=\"http://consumerist.com/5398123/toyota-says-its-not-hiding-anything-in-runaway-cars-investigation#c16565882\" rel=\"nofollow\">Orv</a>: That's good information to know!! I assumed my car was fireproof.</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(16571426, 'ohenry')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->                    <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-16566262\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">                <a href=\"n/a\"><img src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"         width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>            </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a title=\"n/a\" href=\"n/a\" rel=\"nofollow\">Nick1693</a>    </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/11/toyota-says-its-not-hiding-anything-in-runaway-cars-investigation.html#comment-16566262\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-11-13T16:35:26-05:00\">November 13, 2009  4:35 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(16566262);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=16566262');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c16565882\" rel=\"nofollow\">Orv</a>: So you're saying that if my car catches fire, it will be damaged?</p><p>OH SH... =)</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(16566262, 'Nick1693')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>     <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>    </div>","","","","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-16567104\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=546082\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-546082-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=546082\">winshape</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/11/toyota-says-its-not-hiding-anything-in-runaway-cars-investigation.html#comment-16567104\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-11-13T16:35:26-05:00\">November 13, 2009  4:35 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(16567104);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=16567104');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>I wonder what the median age of the operators experiencing \"stuck accelerators\" is.  My guess is pretty high.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(16567104, 'winshape')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->		    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->    </div>","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-16567141\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=233963\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-233963-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=233963\">microcars</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/11/toyota-says-its-not-hiding-anything-in-runaway-cars-investigation.html#comment-16567141\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-11-13T16:35:26-05:00\">November 13, 2009  4:35 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(16567141);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=16567141');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>I think the only reason we are hearing about this, is that Toyota took a pro-active stance after the Lexus accident with the allegedly wrongly installed floor mat, and that made the \"news\" because of their temporary \"fix\" which was some zip ties. (or remove the floor mats)</p><p>any other mfg would have just clammed up and not said or done anything.<br />Reading about this issue on other automotive forums, there appears to be no end to people experiencing similar problems with ALL brands of vehicles.</p><p>disclaimer: I own a Toyota.  But this is one reason I do.  If and when there is a problem, Toyota is all over it.    And it does not have to make the news for them to take action.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(16567141, 'microcars')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->								<div class=\"num-replies\">2 replies</div>	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-16568860\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=469349\"><img        src=\"/mt-static/support/assets_c/userpics/userpic-469349-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=469349\">admiral_stabbin</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/11/toyota-says-its-not-hiding-anything-in-runaway-cars-investigation.html#comment-16568860\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-11-13T16:35:27-05:00\">November 13, 2009  4:35 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(16568860);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=16568860');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c16567141\" rel=\"nofollow\">microcars</a>: Except rust...that's all over a Toyota.  Bam!</p><p>Seriously, I agree.  The only reason I got rid of the only Toyota I've ever owned (Avalon) was that it was too boring for me.  They make quality machines, and try to do right by their customers.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(16568860, 'admiral_stabbin')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-16588488\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=537475\"><img        src=\"/mt-static/support/assets_c/userpics/userpic-537475-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=537475\">pecan 3.14159265</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/11/toyota-says-its-not-hiding-anything-in-runaway-cars-investigation.html#comment-16588488\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-11-13T16:35:31-05:00\">November 13, 2009  4:35 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(16588488);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=16588488');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p><p>@<a href=\"http://consumerist.com/5398123/toyota-says-its-not-hiding-anything-in-runaway-cars-investigation#c16568860\" rel=\"nofollow\">admiral_stabbin</a>: I have to say that for all of the boring sedans on the road, the Avalon is one of the sleekest. It's still a boring sedan, but I always notice when I see one. Can't say the same for the Honda Accord!</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(16588488, 'pecan 3.14159265')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>     <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>    </div>","","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-16570650\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=1294740\"><img        src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=1294740\">bluesred</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/11/toyota-says-its-not-hiding-anything-in-runaway-cars-investigation.html#comment-16570650\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-11-13T16:35:27-05:00\">November 13, 2009  4:35 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(16570650);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=16570650');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>\"Except rust...that's all over a Toyota. Bam!\"</p><p>The Tacoma is a perfect example of how Toyota is with it's customers. Frame rot issue was so bad Toyota decided to man up and give refunds because the frames were being corroded by rust. 150% of your trucks worth thru 1995-2000.</p><p>Toyota is the Apple of the auto industry.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(16570650, 'bluesred')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->								<div class=\"num-replies\">2 replies</div>	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-16570967\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=400379\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-400379-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=400379\">CompyPaq</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/11/toyota-says-its-not-hiding-anything-in-runaway-cars-investigation.html#comment-16570967\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-11-13T16:35:27-05:00\">November 13, 2009  4:35 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(16570967);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=16570967');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c16570650\" rel=\"nofollow\">bluesred</a>: Except that Apple makes exciting products for a niche of consumers and Toyota makes boring products with wide appeal.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(16570967, 'CompyPaq')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-16574435\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=1294740\"><img        src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=1294740\">bluesred</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/11/toyota-says-its-not-hiding-anything-in-runaway-cars-investigation.html#comment-16574435\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-11-13T16:35:28-05:00\">November 13, 2009  4:35 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(16574435);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=16574435');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c16570967\" rel=\"nofollow\">CompyPaq</a>: Except that my point wasn't their target/product audience. I was talking about their dedication to their customers AFTER they are in fact customers.</p><p>The point about Toyota's car being boring is just.. humorously useless opinion.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(16574435, 'bluesred')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-16592930\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=688780\"><img        src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>      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customers?</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(16592930, 'a5un')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->                    <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-16586923\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=26176\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-26176-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=26176\">VagrantRadio</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/11/toyota-says-its-not-hiding-anything-in-runaway-cars-investigation.html#comment-16586923\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-11-13T16:35:30-05:00\">November 13, 2009  4:35 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(16586923);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=16586923');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c16574435\" rel=\"nofollow\">bluesred</a>: Careful, you don't want to offend the Apple niche, they're easily excited and an unruly crowd.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(16586923, 'VagrantRadio')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>     <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>     <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>    </div>","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-16570928\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a 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I bet they really aren't at fault, but did something to piss people at those agencies off. That's kind of how that shit works.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(16570928, 'trujunglist')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->		    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->    </div>","","","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-16572360\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=417754\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-417754-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=417754\">The_Legend</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/11/toyota-says-its-not-hiding-anything-in-runaway-cars-investigation.html#comment-16572360\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-11-13T16:35:28-05:00\">November 13, 2009  4:35 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(16572360);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=16572360');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p><p>Is Toyota becoming the \"New General Motors\"? Where is Ralph Nader on this? Should an automaker be given a free pass because of their prior quality? I don't think so.</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(16572360, 'The_Legend')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->								<div class=\"num-replies\">2 replies</div>	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-16574850\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=962740\"><img        src=\"/mt-static/support/assets_c/userpics/userpic-962740-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=962740\">Chmeeee</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/11/toyota-says-its-not-hiding-anything-in-runaway-cars-investigation.html#comment-16574850\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-11-13T16:35:28-05:00\">November 13, 2009  4:35 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(16574850);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=16574850');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c16572360\" rel=\"nofollow\">The_Legend</a>: They are the new \"biggest automaker.\"  Its a place where everybody wants to be, yet always results in disaster.  You get stuck trying to make the vehicles that appeal to everyone, unable to change for fear of losing your customer base, and ultimately becoming Buick.  You also get complacent (although Toyota now not nearly as much as GM 20 years ago), and your products start slowly losing relevance.  To wit, what was the last car that Toyota made that actually was interesting?  Not practical, not reliable, but interesting?  They've become your father's car.</p><p>Then Buick becomes cool, as they seem to be doing, and the world falls on its head.</p><p>Unrelated:  This issue.  If people knew how to drive, nobody would have died.  It would be nice if Toyota would man up and either replace the gas pedal with one with a higher clearance or reprogram the throttle to cut power under braking.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(16574850, 'Chmeeee')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-16592835\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=417754\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-417754-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=417754\">The_Legend</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/11/toyota-says-its-not-hiding-anything-in-runaway-cars-investigation.html#comment-16592835\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-11-13T16:35:33-05:00\">November 13, 2009  4:35 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(16592835);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=16592835');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p><p>@<a href=\"http://consumerist.com/5398123/toyota-says-its-not-hiding-anything-in-runaway-cars-investigation#c16574850\" rel=\"nofollow\">Chmeeee</a>: So true. People get used to appliances as cars.</p><br /><p>I think it was part design flaw on this one. Though I agree since people don't think learning how to drive was as important as years ago, and some of the old cars I drove had the \"Oh S**T\" moments, like throttle sticking, brake failure, and others. I know how to deal with it, but my kids don't.</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(16592835, 'The_Legend')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>     <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>    </div>","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-16573063\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">                <a href=\"\">        <img src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"             width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" />            </a>            </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\">blandname    </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/11/toyota-says-its-not-hiding-anything-in-runaway-cars-investigation.html#comment-16573063\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-11-13T16:35:28-05:00\">November 13, 2009  4:35 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(16573063);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=16573063');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>I'm sure Toyota will redesign all of it's future cars to have a good 6\" gap between pedal and floor but there really isn't much to investigate or hide here. The floor mats were poorly designed and no one caught the problem because floor mats are an afterthought and probably not subject to any engineering scrutiny, and most drivers probably don't check that the floor mats are properly secured before driving.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(16573063, 'blandname')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->		    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->    </div>","","","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-16577143\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=938525\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-938525-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=938525\">NewsMuncher</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/11/toyota-says-its-not-hiding-anything-in-runaway-cars-investigation.html#comment-16577143\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-11-13T16:35:29-05:00\">November 13, 2009  4:35 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(16577143);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=16577143');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>\"ABC News has put together a collection of articles about the runaway cars, including interviews with drivers who were involved in sudden acceleration crashes, and advice (some of it from our own Consumer Reports) on what to do if you find yourself in a similar situation.\"</p><p>The link in that paragraph doesn't work. It goes to a Road Runner High Speed page that says \"Sorry, we couldn't find www.abcnews.go.com\" and tries to make website suggestions.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(16577143, 'NewsMuncher')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->							<div class=\"num-replies\">1 replies</div>	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-16616413\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=21970\"><img        src=\"/mt-static/support/assets_c/userpics/userpic-21970-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=21970\">Chris Walters</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/11/toyota-says-its-not-hiding-anything-in-runaway-cars-investigation.html#comment-16616413\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-11-13T16:35:45-05:00\">November 13, 2009  4:35 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(16616413);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=16616413');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c16577143\" rel=\"nofollow\">NewsMuncher</a>: Hmm, does this one work?</p><p><a href=\"http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/RunawayToyotas/\" rel=\"nofollow\">[abcnews.go.com]</a></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(16616413, 'Chris Walters')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>    </div>","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-16579337\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=451887\"><img        src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=451887\">H3ion</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/11/toyota-says-its-not-hiding-anything-in-runaway-cars-investigation.html#comment-16579337\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-11-13T16:35:29-05:00\">November 13, 2009  4:35 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(16579337);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=16579337');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>The reason the government was ticked was because Toyota put out a press release saying that they and the government had reached an agreement.  The government said \"No way\" and Toyota had to backpedal.</p><p>I drive a car where the driver floor mat is held down by a pin that has been missing for several years now.  The mat still doesn't move but if it did, I think I'd be able to tell that something didn't feel right when I pressed the accelerator.</p><p>While on Toyota, an article on one of the news Web sites absolutely trashed the new Venza has having more plastic than a toy store and being a poor market fit to begin with.  Even Toyota doesn't walk or drive on water.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(16579337, 'H3ion')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->							<div class=\"num-replies\">1 replies</div>	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-16579821\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=157386\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-157386-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=157386\">rickhamilton620</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/11/toyota-says-its-not-hiding-anything-in-runaway-cars-investigation.html#comment-16579821\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-11-13T16:35:29-05:00\">November 13, 2009  4:35 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(16579821);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=16579821');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p><p>@<a href=\"http://consumerist.com/5398123/toyota-says-its-not-hiding-anything-in-runaway-cars-investigation#c16579337\" rel=\"nofollow\">H3ion</a>: \"While on Toyota, an article on one of the news Web sites absolutely trashed the new Venza has having more plastic than a toy store and being a poor market fit to begin with. Even Toyota doesn't walk or drive on water.\"</p><br /><p>Yeah, the interior quality on several Toyotas of this generation (Camry, Corolla, Venza to name a few) seems to be a step or two back from the previous gen models. I was pretty disappointed in the 07-present Camry's fit and finish when I looked at a few at the local auto show.</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(16579821, 'rickhamilton620')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>    </div>","","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-16581026\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=1219038\"><img        src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" 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href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=233963\">microcars</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/11/toyota-says-its-not-hiding-anything-in-runaway-cars-investigation.html#comment-16591043\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-11-13T16:35:32-05:00\">November 13, 2009  4:35 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(16591043);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=16591043');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c16581026\" rel=\"nofollow\">zibplipperman</a>: <br />my 5.7L Tundra goes like a bat out of hell.<br />even without the floormat sticking to the accelerator.</p>        </div>	<div 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That just leaves out the embedded software or electromagnetic interference, lol.</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(16582072, 'whs_consumer')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->		    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->    </div>","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-16582423\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=197004\"><img        src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=197004\">Buckus</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/11/toyota-says-its-not-hiding-anything-in-runaway-cars-investigation.html#comment-16582423\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-11-13T16:35:30-05:00\">November 13, 2009  4:35 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(16582423);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=16582423');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>Toyota is slowly turning into the new General Motors, \"Too Big To Fail.\"  Unless they recognize and correct their actions now, in another decade Hyundai will be eating their bacon and Toyota will be a finance company that happens to sell cars.</p><p>Unlike GM, though, Toyota more than likely has the guts to actually make some changes and drag themselves out of this morass.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(16582423, 'Buckus')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->							<div class=\"num-replies\">1 replies</div>	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-16598802\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=249257\"><img        src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=249257\">bwcbwc</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/11/toyota-says-its-not-hiding-anything-in-runaway-cars-investigation.html#comment-16598802\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-11-13T16:35:37-05:00\">November 13, 2009  4:35 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(16598802);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=16598802');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c16582423\" rel=\"nofollow\">Buckus</a>: Not a matter of guts. A matter of unions. UAW and GM spent so much time ass-raeping each other they didn't notice the world passing them by.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(16598802, 'bwcbwc')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>    </div>","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-16585092\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=101852\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-101852-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=101852\">CaptainConsumer</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/11/toyota-says-its-not-hiding-anything-in-runaway-cars-investigation.html#comment-16585092\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-11-13T16:35:30-05:00\">November 13, 2009  4:35 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(16585092);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=16585092');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>take it from an expert on this, these sudden accelerations and in some cases engine hesitations while trying to merge are at least 4 years old and go back to the roll out of the Toyota 'drive-by-wire' transmissions.</p><p>Toyota has known for quite some time things aren't right but knew their halo would let them skip by without addressing it (like the engine sludge issue of the late 80's and early to mid-90's).</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(16585092, 'CaptainConsumer')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->		    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->    </div>","","","","","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-16592576\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=488475\"><img        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-->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>Judging by some of the comments in other threads, I think if I go to buy a newer car, I'll look at a Hyundai.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(16592576, 'HogwartsAlum')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->							<div class=\"num-replies\">1 replies</div>	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-16598904\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=249257\"><img        src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=249257\">bwcbwc</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/11/toyota-says-its-not-hiding-anything-in-runaway-cars-investigation.html#comment-16598904\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-11-13T16:35:37-05:00\">November 13, 2009  4:35 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(16598904);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=16598904');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c16592576\" rel=\"nofollow\">HogwartsAlum</a>: My thoughts exactly. Better price on a Hyundai.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(16598904, 'bwcbwc')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>    </div>","","","","","","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-16610363\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=95687\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-95687-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=95687\">MrEvil</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/11/toyota-says-its-not-hiding-anything-in-runaway-cars-investigation.html#comment-16610363\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-11-13T16:35:44-05:00\">November 13, 2009  4:35 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(16610363);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=16610363');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>on alot of newer cars, the shift into neutral trick won't work either.  The Powertrain Control Module (PCM) won't let the user shift the transmission into neutral at Wide Open Throttle (or at speed) to avoid potential damage to the transmission.  The safest bet is to KILL THE ENGINE!  Not having power steering sucks, but at speed it isn't that difficult to get the few degrees of turn you need to safely pull off the road.  Most brake boosters can hold onto manifold vacuum enough to give you one or two pumps worth of power assist.</p><p>Not only will the transmission not let you shift to Neutral, you may in a panic overshoot Neutral and hit Reverse in which case most any transmission made in the past 10 years DEFINITELY won't shift out of gear (instead the Check engine light or some diag light will pop up).</p><p>Generally speaking you can ALWAYS kill the engine.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(16610363, 'MrEvil')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->		    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->    </div>","");