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    <published>2009-11-24T23:31:51Z</published>
    <updated>2009-12-28T20:47:47Z</updated>
    <title>Nokia Breaks Customer&apos;s Phone, Wants Money To Fix It</title>
    <summary>A couple of months ago, Nokia ruined the Wifi capabilities on Chris&apos;s phone, and now he can&apos;t get them to fix it. Well, actually they told him they will fix, but only if he pays for the &quot;repair.&quot; Ah, I see--this is a good secondary revenue strategy, Nokia. Sort of a protection racket! Well played! It&apos;s a long and frustrating story, so I&apos;m going to let Chris tell the first part, then I&apos;ll summarize all the steps he&apos;s tried so far:I have wireless service with T-Mobile and purchased a Nokia 6301 over a year ago due to the phone&apos;s wifi...</summary>
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      <name>Chris Walters</name>
      
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      <![CDATA[<p>A couple of months ago, Nokia ruined the Wifi capabilities on Chris's phone, and now he can't get them to fix it. Well, actually they told him they <i>will</i> fix, but only if he pays for the "repair." Ah, I see--this is a good secondary revenue strategy, Nokia. Sort of a protection racket! Well played! </p>

<p>It's a long and frustrating story, so I'm going to let Chris tell the first part, then I'll summarize all the steps he's tried so far:<blockquote><p>I have wireless service with T-Mobile and purchased a Nokia 6301 over a year ago due to the phone's wifi capability. We live in a valley and don't have service at home. Everything was fine until August of 2009 when I received notice from Nokia that there was a new software upgrade available for the phone. Software updates for electronic devices generally are positive in that they fix previous bugs or enhance features. So I backed up the data on the phone before upgrading as recommended by the installer program. I upgraded using Nokia's PC Suite program.</p></p>

<p>After upgrading to the new software V 08.22, I noticed that the phone would not connect through our wireless network at home. When trying to connect to our network, I would receive an error message "J0011.7 failed to connect".' </p>

<p>I contacted T-Mobile technical support and followed their troubleshooting steps which included master reset, going to a Starbucks and try to connect through their hotspot connection, and making sure the settings for date and time were set to auto update. None of that worked and after another call to T-Mobile, I was advised to contact Nokia since they were responsible for the software on the device. Since the phone was just out of the one year warranty, T-Mobile wouldn't do an exchange. </p>

<p>So I emailed Nokia tech support.</blockquote>In a series of emails, Nokia told Chris to contact T-Mobile for help, because the update erased some security certificates from the carrier and he'd need to get them replaced. He told them that T-Mobile said to contact Nokia, because they weren't responsible for the update. Nokia responded that the update was non-reversible, and that was the end of that.</p>

<p><br />Here are the next steps Chris took to solve his problem:</p>

<ol><li><u>He called Nokia customer support.</u> "It took 15 minutes to finally reach a representative. After explaining the situation, I was placed on hold for 20 minutes while she went to locate a tech specialist for me. She returned and said they were all busy and would call me back within 72 hours. A few weeks went by and no phone call."</li>
<li><u>He called Nokia customer support a second time</u> a few weeks later, with the same results: "I was advised a tech support specialist would call me back within 72 hours. Weeks went by and no phone call."</li> 
<li><u>He called Nokia customer support a third time</u> a few weeks later. After a 30 minute hold, he was finally connected to a tech support specialist. This was not a good thing, unfortunately:  "He advised me they were aware of the J0011.7 error message and since my phone was out of warranty I would need to pay for the repairs."</li>
<li>Chris pointed out it wasn't his fault the update ruined his phone, and Nokia should fix it for free. The tech support specialist told him to take it Radio Shack, and that they could flash his phone with the older firmware.</li>
<li>Chris called Radio Shack and was told that they don't provide this service. They send the phones to Texas for repairs.</li></ol>

<p>Chris has been looking for information on <a href="http://forums.t-mobile.com/t5/Help-General-Discussion/Hotspot-Home-does-not-work-after-software-update/td-p/151529">T-Mobile forums</a> and <a href="http://discussions.nokiausa.com/discussions/board/message?board.id=swupdate&message.id=56887&query.id=2012731#M56887">Nokia forums</a>, and he's found other Nokia 6301 owners who experienced the same issue. The software update, in fact, has been pulled from Nokia's servers. One customer said a T-Mobile rep told him their customers should never update with a Nokia release, because it's not customized for T-Mobile's offerings--but if that's the case, why was it available in the first place? Why didn't Nokia and T-Mobile take steps to ensure the update wouldn't be pushed to their customers? Chris tried flashing the phone back to an earlier version of the software on his own, and although at first it seemed to solve the problem, it didn't.</p>

<p>Now Chris is trying to reach someone higher up at Nokia to explain why they should fix his phone. He contacted their New York office and asked to speak with the head of the North America Region, <a href="http://www.nokiasiemensnetworks.com/press/collateral/management-team/head-of-north-america">Sue Spradley</a>, and was told someone would call him back within 48 hours. Chris writes, "We'll see. 48 hours will be tomorrow."</p>

<p>Nokia is such a huge company, and their US presence is so paltry, that it's all but impossible to get a meaningful response from them. As a former owner of several high-end Nokia devices in recent years, I feel certain that Consumerist would be riddled with Nokia customer service horror stories if only more people actually owned their phones. It's not just the US, either; their lax firmware update protocol is so bad that <a href="http://www.intomobile.com/2009/10/21/uk-the-n-in-nokias-nseries-stands-for-not-recommended.html">some retailers in England say they tell customers not to buy Nokia phones</a> until they've been out for a while, because there's no telling when or if you'll see any of the firmware updates that address bugs or performance issues. </p>

<p>Considering how well that worked out for Chris' 6301, maybe that's actually a good thing. </p>

<p>(If anyone has any contact info for Nokia, please post it below, or email it to me directly if necessary and I'll forward to Chris. Thanks!)</p>

<p><i><b>Update:</b> I transposed the digits on the model number for the phone; it's actually a Nokia 6301, not the cheaper 6103. </i></p>

<p>(Photo: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/renaissancechambara/2313461862/">renaissancechambara</a> and <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/58534808@N00/323527111/">Cellular Immunity )</p>]]>
      
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    <id>tag:consumerist.com,2009://1.10000205-comment:20004521</id>
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    <title>Comment from DocMobile on 2009-11-30</title>
    <author>
        <name>DocMobile</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>

<p>I understand your frustration regarding this matter. Please accept our apologies that your experience with Nokia was less than satisfactory. </p>

<p>This issue was corrected on NSU and you currently have the ability to reflash the software to your phone and this issue will no longer be present. When you connect to NSU it will show you that you have the latest software version, but it will present you with the option to reflash the 8.22 software to the phone again. We have verified that following this reflash process will correct the issue that you described. </p>

<p>If you do not feel that this is an acceptable solution for your issue, I ask that you please post a response here and I will contact you on the Email listed on this site for additional options.</p>

<p>Sincerely, </p>

<p>Dustin R.<br />
Nokia Inc.<br />
Customer Care</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-30T18:41:17Z</published>
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    <id>tag:consumerist.com,2009://1.10000205-comment:20002339</id>
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    <title>Comment from H3ion on 2009-11-25</title>
    <author>
        <name>H3ion</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I saw that but I thought that meant you couldn't do a rollback.  You could still do a complete wipe (like a reformat of a drive) and reinstall from scratch.  Maybe not but I thought it was worth a shot.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-26T04:21:23Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from jcg1483 on 2009-11-25</title>
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        <name>jcg1483</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Hey Chris (and everyone),</p>

<p>As LadySiren mentioned in the replies below, she contacted a Nokia PR person she knew - me. I've contacted our Customer Care team and asked that they look into this ASAP so we can have an answer for you (Chris) and see what can be done. I'll do everything in my power to resolve the issue to the best of my ability.</p>

<p>Please note that neither Sue Spradley nor Chantal Boeckman work for Nokia Inc. Sue is the president of Nokia Siemens Networks (http://www.nokiasiemensnetworks.com/)  - a subsidiary of Nokia that handles infrastructure equipment, is a joint-venture of Nokia and Siemens and is a completely different company from Nokia. I realize that at first glance her LinkedIn profile says she's the president of Nokia but further down it clarifies and states that she is the Head of Nokia Siemens Network.  Also, Chantal Boeckman also works for NSN and is my counterpart there, working in the PR department.</p>

<p>Chris - if you can somehow send me your email address privately, I'll gladly contact you when I know more (most likely early next week due to the holiday).</p>

<p>Best,<br />
Joe</p>

<p>PS - in case you need proof that I work for Nokia, please find my LinkedIn at: <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/in/jgjanuary" rel="nofollow">http://www.linkedin.com/in/jgjanuary</a><br />
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    <published>2009-11-26T02:18:24Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from LadySiren on 2009-11-25</title>
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        <name>LadySiren</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I'll pass this along to a Nokia communications guy I know, see if it helps. No promises but hey, you never know.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-25T21:56:32Z</published>
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    <id>tag:consumerist.com,2009://1.10000205-comment:20002150</id>
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    <title>Comment from brianguyy on 2009-11-25</title>
    <author>
        <name>brianguyy</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>"I had a foresight. I stopped using Nokia ages ago. The last Nokia phone I had was TDMA."</p>

<p>my thoughts exactly.  I saw a Nokia smartphone advertised for Black Friday which seemed like a really good deal, and then thought "naaah better not".  haven't had a Nokia phone in a long time, (I'm a tech guy -- computers and software -- but when it comes to phones, I only upgrade every 2 or 3 years).   their phone technology at least in the U.S. sadly just lags, even HTC which is a newly up and coming manufacturer easily blows them out of the water.</p>

<p>I can see why someone would have bought their T-mobile phone for the Wifi capabilities though.  T-mobile started to push this a while back, and seemed like a really nice feature to have for some users.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-25T21:13:02Z</published>
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    <id>tag:consumerist.com,2009://1.10000205-comment:20002010</id>
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    <title>Comment from That&apos;s Consumer007 to you on 2009-11-25</title>
    <author>
        <name>That&apos;s Consumer007 to you</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Hey Chris:</p>

<p>I just contacted Chantal Boeckman, listed as Sue Spradley's customer contact on the Nokia website, and asked her to get in touch with consumerist to resolve for you right away.  </p>

<p>chantal.boeckman@nsn.com</p>

<p>Further, here is Sue's link on Linkedin.com:  <a href="http://www.linkedin.com/pub/sue-spradley/a/21/6bb" rel="nofollow">http://www.linkedin.com/pub/sue-spradley/a/21/6bb</a></p>

<p>Join up and send her a message on their with your thoughts, lol :)</p>

<p>CEOs should NOT be protected from dealing with paying customers and linked.com is a great tactic to get a hold of them personally. </p>

<p>I'll post any response I get from my message to Chantal. </p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-25T18:18:18Z</published>
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    <id>tag:consumerist.com,2009://1.10000205-comment:20001992</id>
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    <title>Comment from That&apos;s Consumer007 to you on 2009-11-25</title>
    <author>
        <name>That&apos;s Consumer007 to you</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Sigh...pronoun trouble "protecting Sue Spradley from talking to a paying customer..." or "preventing paying customer from talking to Sue Spradley".   Take your pick.  </p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-25T18:04:41Z</published>
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    <id>tag:consumerist.com,2009://1.10000205-comment:20001991</id>
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    <title>Comment from That&apos;s Consumer007 to you on 2009-11-25</title>
    <author>
        <name>That&apos;s Consumer007 to you</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Why is someone at HQ protecting the paying customer from speaking with Sue Spradley?  He is important enough for her to talk to.  </p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-25T18:02:48Z</published>
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    <id>tag:consumerist.com,2009://1.10000205-comment:20001758</id>
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    <title>Comment from dealbreaker on 2009-11-25</title>
    <author>
        <name>dealbreaker</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I suggest looking into the extended warranty that is included on most credit cards. The Visa and Amex extended warranty services double your warranties for devices bought with those cards. If you go ahead and send to Nokia repair center for them to reflash or repair, you can submit the repair cost through the Credit card extended warranty process and they will reimburse that repair cost as long as it doesnt exceed the original cost of the phone (in which case they would just refund the original cost). You can get preapproved or just submit the repair cost after the fact as long as you have original receipt and proof of warranty. Just confirm you have that benefit before moving forward. good luck!</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-25T15:12:04Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Smashville_OrderingOJandTakingNames on 2009-11-25</title>
    <author>
        <name>Smashville_OrderingOJandTakingNames</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I want to say that a while back that either Phil or Laura wrote a tip from a Phil or a Laura and they ran into the same problem.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-25T15:06:00Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Smashville_OrderingOJandTakingNames on 2009-11-25</title>
    <author>
        <name>Smashville_OrderingOJandTakingNames</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I would go back to a T-Mobile store. Ask to speak to a manager...explain the problem. Then, in no uncertain terms, explain to him (or her) that if they are unable to provide him phone service with their own official product, he will be cancelling his contract with no termination fee.</p>

<p>Basically, in the end, it's a T-Mobile issue. Yes, the Nokia update broke the phone, but it is T-Mobile's responsibility to make sure that the phones they sell are supported by their service.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-25T15:02:58Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Bearded Rapper on 2009-11-25</title>
    <author>
        <name>Bearded Rapper</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>That sounds like it will cost a fortune. Does T-Mobile charge for early terminations?</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-11-25T09:34:03Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:consumerist.com,2009://1.10000205-comment:20001680</id>
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    <title>Comment from enomosiki on 2009-11-25</title>
    <author>
        <name>enomosiki</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>The fact that Nokia never tried to actively participate in the U.S. market never helped its sales. I can't even remember a single instance where Nokia actually attempted to market its phones. Of course, producing phones that are absurdly inconspicuous is another factor as well.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-25T06:47:20Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from enomosiki on 2009-11-25</title>
    <author>
        <name>enomosiki</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>The article stated that the firmware update is irreversible.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-25T06:36:53Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Kryndis on 2009-11-24</title>
    <author>
        <name>Kryndis</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I have a 6301 and I had this exact same problem.  Chris is right, it's a fairly well known problem inside of the community (at least the community of nerds who actually plug their phones in and patch them ;-) ) and I was never able to find any sort of solution.  I wish I had some advice for him, but luckily in my case I was still within the one year warranty and T-Mobile swapped it out.</p>

<p>I'd go back to T-Mobile.  It's a known issue and they should make an exception.  You had no reason to believe a manufacturer's update would hurt your phone and it's a feature of the T-Mobile network that isn't working.  Keep calling until you get someone who agrees.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-11-25T04:44:32Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:consumerist.com,2009://1.10000205-comment:20001628</id>
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    <title>Comment from incident_man on 2009-11-24</title>
    <author>
        <name>incident_man</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Come to think of it, my last Nokia phone was with a TDMA carrier too. Now I use an iDEN service, so that keeps me using Motorola products. Haven't had any complaints with any of their iDEN offerings.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-11-25T03:52:43Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:consumerist.com,2009://1.10000205-comment:20001619</id>
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    <title>Comment from dragonfli-labs on 2009-11-24</title>
    <author>
        <name>dragonfli-labs</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<p>OP, if I could probably guess, you need to reload your UMA certificates, if you're having issues connecting to Hotspot@Home/the WiFi services. Your phone uses specific certificates to identify and secure the tunneled UMA connection back to the T-Mobile UNC (UMA Network Controller).</p>

<p>I don't know the specifics on how to re-load them into the phone, but, <a href="http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?knrud225gi2" rel="nofollow">http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?knrud225gi2</a> is the link to the two .cer files that need to somehow be shoved back into the phone... somehow. Supposedly throwing them into the phone's memory and accessing them from the file manager will add the certs back into the phone's OS.</p>

<p>It's worth a shot, at least.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-11-25T03:32:29Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:consumerist.com,2009://1.10000205-comment:20001617</id>
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    <title>Comment from H3ion on 2009-11-24</title>
    <author>
        <name>H3ion</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>At this stage, if the OP is a contract customer of T-Mobile, I would think that T-Mobile would just do a swap for a different Nokia phone.  As an alternative, can the software update be rolled back, maybe erase everything and download the firmware from T-Mobile?</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-11-25T03:30:33Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:consumerist.com,2009://1.10000205-comment:20001610</id>
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    <title>Comment from Chris Walters on 2009-11-24</title>
    <author>
        <name>Chris Walters</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<p>I know! And I've had issues with Nokia in the past, so writing this post was surreal--like I was acting out a consumer issue in therapy or something. Or, you know, just lying.  (Chris the OP is real, though.)</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-11-25T03:04:40Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:consumerist.com,2009://1.10000205-comment:20001585</id>
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    <title>Comment from coren on 2009-11-24</title>
    <author>
        <name>coren</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<p>"Reader" Chris needs contact information.  Not "Senior Editor" Chris is being lazy.</p>

<p>Riiiiight ;)</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-11-25T02:10:45Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:consumerist.com,2009://1.10000205-comment:20001575</id>
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    <title>Comment from haoshufu on 2009-11-24</title>
    <author>
        <name>haoshufu</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<p>In the US where all carriers customize the phones, never do any firmware upgrade unless provided by your carrier.  </p>

<p>I had a foresight.  I stopped using Nokia ages ago.  The last Nokia phone I had was TDMA.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-11-25T01:54:14Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:consumerist.com,2009://1.10000205-comment:20001569</id>
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    <title>Comment from ninjatoddler on 2009-11-24</title>
    <author>
        <name>ninjatoddler</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<p>Me thinks it's probably cheaper for Nokia to flat out replace his phone than anything. The 6103 is a cheap standard model unlike the E71-2.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-11-25T01:39:01Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:consumerist.com,2009://1.10000205-comment:20001566</id>
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    <title>Comment from DangerMouth on 2009-11-24</title>
    <author>
        <name>DangerMouth</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<p>yeahbut, a new phone deal usually means a new two-year contract. He's already having connections issues with T-Mobile, and they've proven themselves unresponsive to their issues, so why would any customer reward them with more or continued businesss? </p>

<p>Maybe it's time to ditch the contract all together.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-11-25T01:36:48Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:consumerist.com,2009://1.10000205-comment:20001558</id>
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    <title>Comment from chucklebuck on 2009-11-24</title>
    <author>
        <name>chucklebuck</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<p>The only experience I've ever had with Nokia support was positive.  The screen on my unlocked E71-2 cracked in my pocket.  I called Nokia, got a rep in about 15 minutes, and got the info I needed to mail the phone to their repair facility in Alabama.  Mailed it on a Saturday, had the phone back 6 days later.</p>

<p>That said, I could have just gotten lucky, or the OP could have just gotten unlucky.  I'll admit that I've never updated the firmware on my phone, but I usually don't update the firmware on anything unless I am having a specific problem addressed by a firmware update.  </p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-11-25T01:13:09Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:consumerist.com,2009://1.10000205-comment:20001553</id>
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    <title>Comment from Johnny Utah on 2009-11-24</title>
    <author>
        <name>Johnny Utah</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<p>Nokia moved all customer support to the Philippines from Tampa, FL and outsourced all of their repairs a few years ago. Nokia does not seem really care about the US as it only account for less than 10% of total sales. Now if the customer buys one share, they can contact Nokia via their shareholder line and NokiaUSA from Ft.Worth TX will usually just replace the phone right away. If you want great customer support from a mobile phone maker, Nokia in my own personal opinion may not be the best company. </p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-11-25T01:01:39Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:consumerist.com,2009://1.10000205-comment:20001551</id>
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    <title>Comment from geckoman on 2009-11-24</title>
    <author>
        <name>geckoman</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<p>Is he eligible to get a phone update from T-Mobile and maybe just ditch the Nokia? Not exactly solving the problem as much as it is just moving on, but it appears there will be no help from them. I had a similar problem with a firmware update on my original Blackjack, but thankfully Samsung had the older firmware for me to downgrade to.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-11-25T00:58:39Z</published>
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