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  <title>Comments for Making A Donation? Ask For Details First</title>
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    <published>2009-11-19T00:28:20Z</published>
    <updated>2009-11-19T01:50:03Z</updated>
    <title>Making A Donation? Ask For Details First</title>
    <summary>--&gt;This is the time of year when retailers like to give back to the community by getting you to do it for them when you&apos;re buying stuff. It might feel nice to help out a good cause, but make sure you know exactly what you&apos;re paying for before you hand over any cash. Dominick, for example, just bought a Jack in the Box antenna ball when he thought he was straight-up donating to a non-Jack charity.</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p><!--<img src="http://consumerist.com/images/consumerist/2009/11/111809-003-jitb-antenna.jpg" width="160" height="160" class="left" />-->This is the time of year when retailers like to give back to the community by getting you to do it for them when you're buying stuff. It might feel nice to help out a good cause, but make sure you know exactly what you're paying for before you hand over any cash. Dominick, for example, just bought a <a class="autolink" title="Click here to read more posts tagged #jackinthebox" title="Click here to read more posts tagged #jackinthebox" href="http://consumerist.com/tag/jackinthebox/">Jack in the Box</a> antenna ball when he thought he was straight-up donating to a non-Jack charity.</p>]]>
      <![CDATA[<p>From his email to us yesterday: </p>
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<p>This morning, I purchased breakfast at the Jack in the Box drive through. They asked if I wanted to donate $1 to Big Brothers, and (feeling generous) I agreed. When I picked up my order, they gave me a cute little antenna ball for making a donation. Later, looking at my receipt, I noticed that my "donation" was listed as the purchase of an antenna ball, and that I'd been charged tax.</p>
<p>I thought I was donating money, not buying a trinket, and I didn't expect to pay sales tax on a donation. So, does the charity get any money from this transaction or not?</p></blockquote>
<p>Today he wrote back and said Jack in the Box responded to his complaint: </p>
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<p>After I wrote to you and to Jack in the Box, they called me. Apparently, they consider this not to be a donation, but a purchase of an antenna ball, with 70% of the purchase price (not including tax) going to charity.</p>
<p>I checked and signs at the store do say that this is a purchase, but you can't see those signs from the drive through, so when I was asked if I wanted to donate, I had no way to know this wasn't a straight donation.</p></blockquote>
<p>Maybe donating at the drive-through window isn't a good idea in general, since it's not the best place to see things like <a class="autolink" title="Click here to read more posts tagged #fineprint" title="Click here to read more posts tagged #fineprint" href="http://consumerist.com/tag/fineprint/">fine print</a>.</p>
<p>(Photo: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/steevithak/2669995164/">steevithak</a>)</p>]]>
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    <title>Comment from stranger than fiction on 2009-11-23</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c16920226" rel="nofollow">Outrun1986</a>: DING DING DING!  A server at a restaurant was honest enough to tell us one night that the manager was hot on them to get donations for the <i>cause du jour</i> so he could win some bonus contest.  He had them using a coupon code from a separate promotion to "reimburse" the customers.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-23T22:31:21Z</published>
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    <id>tag:beta.consumerist.com,2009://1.5407604-comment:16922198</id>
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    <title>Comment from ReaveT on 2009-11-18</title>
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        <name>ReaveT</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c16920935" rel="nofollow">h3llc4t, breaker of office dress codes</a>: It's ok, you can say PETA here.  We won't judge.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-18T21:53:24Z</published>
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    <id>tag:beta.consumerist.com,2009://1.5407604-comment:16921299</id>
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    <title>Comment from temporaryerror on 2009-11-18</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c16921034" rel="nofollow">Scoobatz</a>: <br />
That's better than some.  I got cold called by some "donate to cancer research" outfit and the guy hung up on me when I asked what percentage actually went to the charity.  I looked it up... turns out that it was less than 10%.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-18T21:53:23Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from h3llc4t, breaker of office dress codes on 2009-11-18</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c16920752" rel="nofollow">dangerp</a>: At my office, we had packets of cookies for sale in the cafe. They were 50 cents and labeled "Breast Cancer Supporters". <br />
1. I don't want to support breast cancer, it killed my aunt and it's a freeloading jerk. <br />
2. I couldn't get that line from Grease out of my head: "If you can't be an athlete, be an athletic supporter!"</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-18T21:53:23Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Scoobatz on 2009-11-18</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>@<a href="http://consumerist.com/5407604/making-a-donation-ask-for-details-first#c16919028" rel="nofollow">morganlh85</a>: No, that's not overhead. Jack in the Box took 30%, and 70% went to Big Brothers. Of that 70%, there could be as much as 25% overhead. So, in the end, the $1 donation contributed probably no more than 50 cents.</p></p>]]>
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    <title>Comment from h3llc4t, breaker of office dress codes on 2009-11-18</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c16919933" rel="nofollow">apd09</a>: After inadvertently donating to a radical, violent animal rights group, I ask for literature and then go home to do research. If I like what I see, they get a check later.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-18T21:53:23Z</published>
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    <id>tag:beta.consumerist.com,2009://1.5407604-comment:16920892</id>
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    <title>Comment from TCama on 2009-11-18</title>
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        <name>TCama</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>So isn't it misleading, and possibly illegal, for the drive-thru attendant to call it a donation?</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-18T21:53:23Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from dangerp on 2009-11-18</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>My favorite line at a grocery store:</p>
<p>Clerk: "Would you like to donate a dollar to Breast Cancer?"<br />
Me: "ABSOLUTELY NOT!  I hate Breast Cancer!"</p>
<p>Followed by a puzzled expression on the clerk's face.</p>]]>
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    <title>Comment from lauraloops on 2009-11-18</title>
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        <name>lauraloops</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I work part-time at a major sporting goods retailer.</p>
<p>Two comments:<br />
1. We have a yearly fundraiser at the cash register's for St. Jude's Children's Hospital. Surely a worthy cause, but we are pushed pushed pushed to ask and get a donation at every transaction. I'm also pressured as an employee to make a donation every time I buy something (like a soda, snack, etc). It's frustrating to me, and I'm sure every customer, because I make my own contributions to charities each year, too.</p>
<p>2. Similar to the OP, we were pushed one week to sell the yellow LiveStrong bracelets- they were our "item of the week" and needed to sell a lot, apparently. Many cashiers asked customers to make a $1 donation to the LiveStrong Foundation, and instead were sold a bracelet. With tax. This came from individual cashiers who took it upon themselves to sell some bracelets, not from corporate.  So maybe Jack-in-the-Box cashiers were going rogue with their own script?</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-18T21:53:22Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Outrun1986 on 2009-11-18</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I always wonder how much is going into the managers pockets when asked to donate at a store.  How much is the charity getting, and how much is the store in question getting as a bonus if they reach a certain donation goal?  Might explain why they are extra pushy about donating that dollar.</p>
<p>Frankly since I get asked at every store I go into these days, and since I go into multiple stores a week, I would be very broke if I donated a dollar every time I was asked.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-18T21:53:22Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from apd09 on 2009-11-18</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c16919003" rel="nofollow">shepd</a>: I am the same way, no on the spot donations.  I will happily accept some literature about their cause to decide if it is something I want to do, but I do not give money to anyone on the spot when they ask me to donate.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-18T21:53:22Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Gruppa on 2009-11-18</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c16919489" rel="nofollow">Laura Northrup</a>: Mine does. In fact I have a glovebox full of different Jack antennae balls.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-18T21:53:22Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Laura Northrup on 2009-11-18</title>
    <author>
        <name>Laura Northrup</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>An antenna ball? What cars even have antennae anymore?</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-18T21:53:22Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from greeneyedguru on 2009-11-18</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c16919031" rel="nofollow">RalphyNader</a>:</p>
<p>I'm no tax lawyer, but I believe you can write off any donation to a tax exempt entity, and you don't even need a receipt for donations under $250.</p>
<p>That's assuming you itemize deductions in the first place.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-18T21:53:22Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Bob Lu on 2009-11-18</title>
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        <name>Bob Lu</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Considering many professional fundraiser only give 10% or less to the charity, 70% is not too bad.</p>
<p>However if you really want to make best use your your money, donate the money directly to the charity.</p>
<p>If you want to donate item, only donate what you already have. Don't buy things for donation.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-18T21:53:22Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from diasdiem on 2009-11-18</title>
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        <name>diasdiem</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Sneaky bastards get $.30 for probably $.05 of foam rubber, and get to write off the other $.70 as their own donation.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-18T21:53:22Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from gStein_*|bringing starpipe back|* on 2009-11-18</title>
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        <name>gStein_*|bringing starpipe back|*</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c16919080" rel="nofollow">jacques</a>: 3. the charity you want to donate to gets the money - in Charlotte, United Way went through a scandal over the past year or so when it was revealed that the CEO was making an inordinate amount of money ($600k/year, iirc)</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-18T21:53:22Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from RPHP on 2009-11-18</title>
    <author>
        <name>RPHP</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c16919028" rel="nofollow">morganlh85</a>: Yea but if you make a donation you do not pay tax on that donation no matter what the overhead is.  In fact you get a tax deduction on donations.</p>
<p>There is definitely a way to make a donation and receive some sort of thank you "gift".  Usually if the gift is significant they tell you how much of the "donation" can be deducted from taxes.  However, I do not believe you pay any sales tax on the transaction.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-18T21:53:21Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from jacques on 2009-11-18</title>
    <author>
        <name>jacques</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Best advice it to donate directly to charities you want to donate to. Don't do it just because you're asked at work, at stores, from other groups passing by, etc.  <br />
1) You control how much the charity gets (as opposed to United Way)<br />
2) You can keep track of it for tax reasons</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-18T21:53:21Z</published>
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    <id>tag:beta.consumerist.com,2009://1.5407604-comment:16919031</id>
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    <title>Comment from RalphyNader on 2009-11-18</title>
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        <name>RalphyNader</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>When you get asked at the grocery store if you would like to donate to whatevercharity...does the store collect the money and write it off in there books as a donation in the stores name? Can you write those kind of donations off on your taxes?</p></p>]]>
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    <title>Comment from morganlh85 on 2009-11-18</title>
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        <name>morganlh85</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Well clearly the antenna balls aren't free...No matter what charity you donate to, not all your money is going to help people/animals/aliens directly...some of it goes to overhead. Consider the antenna ball "overhead."</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-18T21:53:21Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from shepd on 2009-11-18</title>
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        <name>shepd</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I don't donate unless I intend to.  I never intend to make a donation when I am buying something, and that means I instantly say "no" whenever asked.  This also applies to the telephone, door-to-door, at the grocery store in-doors and other similar situations.</p>
<p>It's an easy life rule to make.</p>]]>
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