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  <title>Comments for $1.26 Billion Glorified Tap Water Judgment Against Pepsi Thrown Out</title>
  <subtitle>Shoppers bite back.</subtitle>
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    <published>2009-11-08T21:00:34Z</published>
    <updated>2009-11-09T01:11:53Z</updated>
    <title>$1.26 Billion Glorified Tap Water Judgment Against Pepsi Thrown Out</title>
    <summary>--&gt;Good news for Pepsico: the lawsuit two Wisconsin men filed, accusing the company of stealing from them the idea that eventually became Aquafina, will have to be judged on its actual merits. The default judgment of $1.26 billion that they received when Pepsi failed to acknowledge the suit has been vacated.</summary>
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      <name>Laura Northrup</name>
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<p><!--<img src="http://consumerist.com/images/consumerist/2009/10/cat_faucet.jpg" class="left image340" width="340" />-->Good news for Pepsico: the lawsuit two Wisconsin men filed, accusing the company of stealing from them the idea that eventually became Aquafina, will have to be judged on its actual merits. The default judgment of $1.26 billion that they received when Pepsi failed to acknowledge the suit <a href="http://www.jsonline.com/business/69437027.html">has been vacated.</a></p>
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<p>At a hearing Friday, PepsiCo attorney Dean Panos argued that Erwin should vacate her prior order because Wisconsin law disfavors default judgments. Panos also argued that since the case had barely begun, the plaintiffs would not be harmed, and that no default judgment can stand if the underlying complaint is defective.</p>
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<p>The men allege that Pepsi stole their proprietary idea for purifying and selling tap water, and turned it into the inexplicable success that is Aquafina.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.jsonline.com/business/69437027.html">Judge scraps $1.26 billion judgment against Pepsi</a> [Journal Sentinel] <em>(Thanks, Emily!)</em></p>
<p><strong>PREVIOUSLY:</strong><br>
<a href="http://consumerist.com/5392454/misplaced-letter-costs-pepsico-126-billion-in-bottled-water-lawsuit">Misplaced Letter Costs PepsiCo $1.26 Billion In Bottled Water Lawsuit</a></p>
<p>(Photo: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/melauer/">marcus_in_ny</a>)</p>
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    <title>Comment from jswilson64 on 2009-11-13</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c16640914" rel="nofollow">Ursus Maritimus</a>: Pepsi gets a do-over because they have duffel bags full of money to pay to lawyers.  You don't get a do-over because you don't.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-13T21:36:02Z</published>
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    <id>tag:beta.consumerist.com,2009://1.5399617-comment:16659289</id>
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    <title>Comment from secret_curse on 2009-11-13</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>@<a href="#c16649468" rel="nofollow">Inglix_the_Mad</a>: Well, it would require psychic powers to respond to a court order you've never read. Pepsico claims their lawyers never actually saw the court order because it wasn't passed on by the secretary that signed for the letter. Now that they've been informed of the claim, they wish to try the case on merit. That seems reasonable to me...</p></p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-13T21:36:01Z</published>
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    <id>tag:beta.consumerist.com,2009://1.5399617-comment:16654991</id>
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    <title>Comment from Toof_75_75 on 2009-11-13</title>
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        <name>Toof_75_75</name>
        <uri>http://</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c16640747" rel="nofollow">mikel81</a>:</p>
<p>The picture in the post reminds me of this video...<a></a></p>_embedded]]>
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    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:58Z</published>
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    <id>tag:beta.consumerist.com,2009://1.5399617-comment:16654086</id>
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    <title>Comment from tmed on 2009-11-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>tmed</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>@<a href="http://consumerist.com/5399617/126-billion-glorified-tap-water-judgment-against-pepsi-thrown-out#c16648977" rel="nofollow">coren</a>: In some ways, however, the huge corporation has MORE excuse to misplace the summons. A certified letter to an individual is typically received and signed by that individual or a household member. Sent to a corporation, the summons likely has a much tougher route to get to a responsible party.</p></p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:58Z</published>
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    <id>tag:beta.consumerist.com,2009://1.5399617-comment:16653972</id>
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    <title>Comment from katstermonster on 2009-11-13</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c16652875" rel="nofollow">Blueskylaw</a>: But if a secretary really didn't pass along the mail, and NO ONE from the legal team even knew there was a complaint, I fail to see how that's arrogance. That could very well be a cover story, and the legal team themselves "lost" the complaint in a trash can, but if the story is true, it wasn't arrogance. Just...stupidity.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:58Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Blueskylaw on 2009-11-13</title>
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        <name>Blueskylaw</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>Purifying and selling tap water can be considered a proprietary idea?</p><br />
<p>Can grinding up coffee beans and boiling them in water also be considered a proprietary idea?</p><br />
<p>Also, Pepsi and their lawyers were arrogant when they failed to acknowledge the suit. The old standby "paperwork got lost somewhere" doesn't work anymore when you're talking billions of Dollars.</p></p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:57Z</published>
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    <id>tag:beta.consumerist.com,2009://1.5399617-comment:16652482</id>
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    <title>Comment from treimel on 2009-11-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>treimel</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>@<a href="http://consumerist.com/5399617/126-billion-glorified-tap-water-judgment-against-pepsi-thrown-out#c16649003" rel="nofollow">xtc46 - thinksmarter on twitter</a>:</p><br />
<p>Well, she probably shouldn't be punished. I know its counter-intuitive, but default judgments aren't usually a big deal.</p></p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:56Z</published>
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    <id>tag:beta.consumerist.com,2009://1.5399617-comment:16651856</id>
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    <title>Comment from Al Swearengen on 2009-11-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>Al Swearengen</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>I love the "law disfavors it argument". Those are not solid rules, it is just something a judge can use to reverse a decision he doesn't like. If the law really disfavored default judgments they wouldn't be allowed at all. I did think the case was B.S., but if a huge corporation is arrogant enough to not even respond to a complaint, then they should be hit with a default judgment. And now all that will happen is it gets litgated for the next 10 years, millions of dollars are wasted, and then they will settle and everyone eats their own fees. How about the court disfavoring wasting everyone's time?</p></p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:55Z</published>
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    <id>tag:beta.consumerist.com,2009://1.5399617-comment:16650622</id>
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    <title>Comment from Laura Northrup on 2009-11-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>Laura Northrup</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c16648192" rel="nofollow">gStein_has joined the star bandwagon</a>: Pretty much.</p>
<p>Also, best avatar ever.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:54Z</published>
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    <id>tag:beta.consumerist.com,2009://1.5399617-comment:16650076</id>
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    <title>Comment from Trai_Dep on 2009-11-13</title>
    <author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c16649003" rel="nofollow">xtc46 - thinksmarter on twitter</a>: OK, thanks. I hoped this was the case, so it's good to hear.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:54Z</published>
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    <id>tag:beta.consumerist.com,2009://1.5399617-comment:16649822</id>
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    <title>Comment from The Marionette on 2009-11-13</title>
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        <name>The Marionette</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c16640865" rel="nofollow">The Marionette</a>: Maybe I should've rephrased what I said.  To translate what I said it's kinda gutsy for a person (or even a couple of people in this case) to go go after a big company for money.  So no ludwik, it's not fixed.</p>
<p>@<a href="#c16642173" rel="nofollow">mythago</a>: Pepsico and MS are both big companies, but considering pepsico being $96.37 Billion and Microsoft being $253.23 Billion, I'm sure microsoft would've been more at the top of their game at keeping track of pending lawsuits.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:54Z</published>
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    <id>tag:beta.consumerist.com,2009://1.5399617-comment:16649468</id>
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    <title>Comment from Inglix_the_Mad on 2009-11-13</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c16644015" rel="nofollow">MooseOfReason</a>: Then again I can't exactly sympathize with PepsiCo here. Not exactly rocket science to respond to a court order.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:54Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from xtc46 - thinksmarter on twitter on 2009-11-13</title>
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        <name>xtc46 - thinksmarter on twitter</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c16643572" rel="nofollow">Trai_Dep</a>: everyone is typically easily able to vacate these things. If you read the original complaint, the legal team didn't disregard this, a secretary didn't think it was as important as a board meeting, and didn't tell anyone. And Ill bet she does get punished.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:54Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from coren on 2009-11-13</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c16648957" rel="nofollow">xtc46 - thinksmarter on twitter</a>: While I see your point, there's a difference between an individual who is unaware of the legal process (and may have been unaware of the filing, I am not sure, although I doubt it) and a ginormous company who has a legal team or law firm on retainer.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:54Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from xtc46 - thinksmarter on twitter on 2009-11-13</title>
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        <name>xtc46 - thinksmarter on twitter</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c16640873" rel="nofollow">coren</a>: Default judgments are frequently overturned in favor of actually trying a case on its merits, not on one parties ability to meet a deadline. A month or so back we all cheered when a default judgment won by cash for gold was over turned becasue the woman they sued just didn't know what she was supposed to do, and that's a good thing. Small things can fall through the cracks at big companies, it happens, but as long as they didn't intentionally blow off the case, there is no reason they shouldnt be allowed to have it heard.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:54Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from gStein_*|bringing starpipe back|* on 2009-11-13</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c16640747" rel="nofollow">mikel81</a>: no, Sunday.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:54Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from humphrmi on 2009-11-13</title>
    <author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c16641295" rel="nofollow">Esquire99</a>: In fact, I knew an attorney who used default judgments as a tool - in cases where a delay tactic is being used, attorneys tell their clients not to show up for the first court date, then they get the default judgment vacated later.  It buys them more time, and when it is vacated, it gives the plaintiffs a sense of having their chain yanked by the defendant.  In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if Pepsi did this on purpose... now after some elation about getting a default judgment for 1 billion dollars, the plaintiffs have nothing and need to go back to court to prove their case -- deflating any sense of victory that they had.</p>
<p>And, again, it doesn't really require a lawyer - the motion to vacate is pretty simple in most courts.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:53Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Thaddeus on 2009-11-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>Thaddeus</name>
        <uri>http://consumerist.com/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>As I said in the previous post leading up to this one: Had the situation been reversed, Pepsi would be fighting to keep the default judgment on their behalf.</p>
<p>Then everyone started yelling.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:53Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:beta.consumerist.com,2009://1.5399617-comment:16645327</id>
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    <title>Comment from ChemicallyInert on 2009-11-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>ChemicallyInert</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>On the one hand I like seeing Pepsi get the ol' one-two. But, on the other hand I see the judge's point and I'm sure that favoritism or BS wasn't an issue here. I feel like a kid who just conceded that he <i>should</i> in fact share his favorite toys with his siblings.</p>
<p>*Hangs head*<br />
"Okay..."</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:52Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:beta.consumerist.com,2009://1.5399617-comment:16645281</id>
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    <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://consumerist.com/2009/11/126-billion-glorified-tap-water-judgment-against-pepsi-thrown-out.html#c16645281" />
    <title>Comment from ChemicallyInert on 2009-11-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>ChemicallyInert</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c16641581" rel="nofollow">Esquire99</a>: Am I to assume from your screen-name that you are a lawyer/law student. (Not trying to make a point, just genuinely curious)</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:52Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:beta.consumerist.com,2009://1.5399617-comment:16644015</id>
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    <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://consumerist.com/2009/11/126-billion-glorified-tap-water-judgment-against-pepsi-thrown-out.html#c16644015" />
    <title>Comment from MooseOfReason on 2009-11-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>MooseOfReason</name>
        <uri>http://</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://">
        <![CDATA[<p>"I want $1 billion because they became successful."</p>
<p>I mean, I don't sympathize with the plaintiffs at all.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:52Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:beta.consumerist.com,2009://1.5399617-comment:16643572</id>
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    <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://consumerist.com/2009/11/126-billion-glorified-tap-water-judgment-against-pepsi-thrown-out.html#c16643572" />
    <title>Comment from Trai_Dep on 2009-11-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>Trai_Dep</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c16641636" rel="nofollow">Esquire99</a>: They're professional adults who are highly paid to, among other things, read a calendar and their mail. It's absurd.<br />
They should be punished. (Again, everyone should be able to easily vacate these things, but it should sting)</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:52Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:beta.consumerist.com,2009://1.5399617-comment:16642193</id>
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    <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://consumerist.com/2009/11/126-billion-glorified-tap-water-judgment-against-pepsi-thrown-out.html#c16642193" />
    <title>Comment from mythago on 2009-11-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>mythago</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<p><p>@<a href="http://consumerist.com/5399617/126-billion-glorified-tap-water-judgment-against-pepsi-thrown-out#c16641295" rel="nofollow">Esquire99</a>: Same. I just had a default judgment vacated because the papers were served and the hearing happened during a time I was so sick that I couldn't get out of bed (much less, you know, drive to court).</p></p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:51Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:beta.consumerist.com,2009://1.5399617-comment:16642173</id>
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    <link rel="alternate" type="text/html" href="http://consumerist.com/2009/11/126-billion-glorified-tap-water-judgment-against-pepsi-thrown-out.html#c16642173" />
    <title>Comment from mythago on 2009-11-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>mythago</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<p><p>@<a href="http://consumerist.com/5399617/126-billion-glorified-tap-water-judgment-against-pepsi-thrown-out#c16640865" rel="nofollow">The Marionette</a>: And through a series of incompetence and big-organization dumbassery, Microsoft doesn't bother to respond to the lawsuit?</p></p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:51Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:beta.consumerist.com,2009://1.5399617-comment:16641636</id>
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    <title>Comment from Esquire99 on 2009-11-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>Esquire99</name>
        <uri>http://</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://">
        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c16641485" rel="nofollow">Trai_Dep</a>: <br />
Pepsi didn't miss a "trial," it failed to answer, or otherwise respond to, the complaint in the prescribed time.  There likely wasn't a significant amount of time wasted by anyone and the "sanction" for that comes in the form of the cost and time necessary to prepare a motion to vacate.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:51Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:beta.consumerist.com,2009://1.5399617-comment:16641581</id>
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    <title>Comment from Esquire99 on 2009-11-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>Esquire99</name>
        <uri>http://</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://">
        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c16641519" rel="nofollow">bohemian</a>: <br />
Defaults are not hard to get vacated, by anyone, unless you literally have no excuse for not showing up.  Unless you go in and say "Yes, I knew about the hearing and I chose not to show up because I simply didn't want to," judges are generally amendable to vacating and trying the case on the merits.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:51Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:beta.consumerist.com,2009://1.5399617-comment:16641552</id>
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    <title>Comment from Esquire99 on 2009-11-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>Esquire99</name>
        <uri>http://</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c16641426" rel="nofollow">ludwigk</a>: <br />
Summary Judgment is not the same as a default judgment.  Summary judgment is granted based on the merits, not on a failure to appear.  If you don't know what the terms mean don't use them.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:51Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:beta.consumerist.com,2009://1.5399617-comment:16641536</id>
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    <title>Comment from mrsultana on 2009-11-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>mrsultana</name>
        <uri>http://</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I gotta admit, the Pepsico lawyer made me laugh.  Essentially, their argument was, "If those guys are right, they'll still win the trial.  If they're wrong, then they shouldn't have won in the first place."<br />
Getting someone to acquiesce by the ol' "if you're innocent, you have nothing to worry about" defense is something usually reserved for people advocating me giving up my first amendment rights.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:51Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:beta.consumerist.com,2009://1.5399617-comment:16641519</id>
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    <title>Comment from bohemian on 2009-11-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>bohemian</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c16640914" rel="nofollow">Ursus Maritimus</a>: That was my first thought on this. Why is Pepsi getting special treatment and a "do over". I doubt an individual could get a default un-done by the court. They have a real problem in states like SD. The bar for contacting the other party is really low. You can make attempts to send a certified letter, have it send back as unclaimed and move forward. So the other party can send it to any address they please, including a known old address or the zoo and still move forward with the case. I know a few people who ended up with default judgments without their knowledge this way.</p>
<p>How Pepsi was allowed to ignore the suit AND get a do-over is just disgusting.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:51Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:beta.consumerist.com,2009://1.5399617-comment:16641485</id>
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    <title>Comment from Trai_Dep on 2009-11-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>Trai_Dep</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>The simple fact is that PepsiCo's inept law team wasted both the court's and the plaintiff's time, as well as the bandwidth of cases that care enough to actually show up for their appointed case.<br />
While NO case should be lost for this sort of screw-up (not just when a mega-corp that drops the ball), there should be a prohibitively costly sanction for missing a trial, say, 10x whatever everyone else's time costs or 10% of whatever the final judgement turns out to be (even if the tardy team wins).</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:51Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:beta.consumerist.com,2009://1.5399617-comment:16641426</id>
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    <title>Comment from ludwigk on 2009-11-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>ludwigk</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c16640865" rel="nofollow">The Marionette</a>: And after filing papers in court, and notifying ms, MS failing to respond in a timely manner, causing a judge to enter summary judgment against them for failure to defend themselves.</p>
<p>There, fixed.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:51Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:beta.consumerist.com,2009://1.5399617-comment:16641330</id>
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    <title>Comment from Esquire99 on 2009-11-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>Esquire99</name>
        <uri>http://</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c16640873" rel="nofollow">coren</a>: <br />
The plaintiffs wouldn't be harmed in the sense that they won't be in any worse position absent the default.  Taking away the judgment doesn't count as "harm" when the judge is deciding whether or not to vacate the default.</p>
<p>If the plaintiffs think they have a good case, they shouldn't be afraid of trying it on the merits.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:51Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:beta.consumerist.com,2009://1.5399617-comment:16641295</id>
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    <title>Comment from Esquire99 on 2009-11-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>Esquire99</name>
        <uri>http://</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://">
        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c16641075" rel="nofollow">humphrmi</a>: <br />
+1.</p>
<p>It's generally not hard to get a Default Judgment vacated unless you walk into court and tell the judge that the only reason you didn't show up was because you didn't want to.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:51Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:beta.consumerist.com,2009://1.5399617-comment:16641123</id>
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    <title>Comment from ZeGoggles on 2009-11-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>ZeGoggles</name>
        <uri>http://yourethemannowdog.ytmnd.com/</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://yourethemannowdog.ytmnd.com/">
        <![CDATA[<p>GET THAT CAT AWAY FROM THE SINK RIGHT NOW.</p>
<p>..Sorry. I always wanted to "yell" at a cat picture. Carry on. Happy Sunday.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:51Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:beta.consumerist.com,2009://1.5399617-comment:16641075</id>
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    <title>Comment from humphrmi on 2009-11-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>humphrmi</name>
        <uri>http://famille.org</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c16640959" rel="nofollow">menty666</a>: I'm not sure that "how many lawyers you can afford" affects reversing a default judgment.  I've gotten a default judgment thrown out, pro-se.  You just tell the judge that you never received notification of the court date.</p>
<p>Default judgments are pretty much universally thrown out just by asking nice.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:51Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:beta.consumerist.com,2009://1.5399617-comment:16640959</id>
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    <title>Comment from menty666 on 2009-11-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>menty666</name>
        <uri>http://</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://">
        <![CDATA[<p>I think the important thing to keep in mind here is that there really is no hard and fast 'law', just shades of gray that vary depending on how many lawyers you can afford.</p>
<p>I'm not saying it was a good judgement, frankly they lost because of one incompetent employee, but still, it just shows that laws don't actually apply anymore to whiny crybabies.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:51Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:beta.consumerist.com,2009://1.5399617-comment:16640914</id>
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    <title>Comment from PølάrβǽЯ on 2009-11-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>PølάrβǽЯ</name>
        <uri>http://</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://">
        <![CDATA[<p>I didn't realize you could patent the idea of selling water. If so, every municipality in the country should be sued.</p>
<p>As for the vacation, if someone sues me and I don't show up for court, I'm screwed. Why should Pepsi be given special treatment?</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:51Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:beta.consumerist.com,2009://1.5399617-comment:16640882</id>
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    <title>Comment from coren on 2009-11-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>coren</name>
        <uri>n/a</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c16640873" rel="nofollow">coren</a>: Then again, IANAL</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:51Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:beta.consumerist.com,2009://1.5399617-comment:16640873</id>
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    <title>Comment from coren on 2009-11-13</title>
    <author>
        <name>coren</name>
        <uri>n/a</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="n/a">
        <![CDATA[<p>It shouldn't have been vacated.  I mean ok the law disfavors it - doesn't disallow, just disfavors.  And sure the plaintiffs wouldn't be harmed...well except we're taking away that big ol judgment they got.  And if the underlying complaint is defective, maybe Pepsi should have showed up in the first place to, oh, I don't know, dispute it?</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:51Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:beta.consumerist.com,2009://1.5399617-comment:16640865</id>
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    <title>Comment from The Marionette on 2009-11-13</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Why would anyone be surprised by the outcome?  That would be like someone trying to sue microsoft because they told them the idea of integrating other os stuff into their newer windows (years ago) and ms went ahead and did it.  Then years later (after "x" feature was put in) the person tries suing ms.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:51Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from mikel81 on 2009-11-13</title>
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        <name>mikel81</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>no news day :(</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-11-13T21:35:51Z</published>
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