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This system's had replies go weird for a while now, it's not a "new server" thing.

That's pretty much EVERY task in life that isn't, say, ER medicine.

Seems to me Redskins fans have created enough complaints with these sort of actions, that an entrance policy was worthy of being created. I see no problem with this rule, and can only blame the fans who abused the freedom to do as such for it's creation. If one can't show a little respect, then they lose the right to violate the good time of others.

I'm pretty sure that no one has the power to *force* people to drive. What happens to those that can't/don't drive...as in..don't have a license, don't have a car, etc?

Remember the 'Aints. Remember wearing paper bags at the game because you were too embarrassed to be seen on national TV watching a team that seemingly could not win a game even if the other team was not on the field?

@Schildkrote: What's the view like from up there on your high horse?

@pinkbunnyslippers: "His shirt's no more offensive than Eagles fans anytime they come to FedEx field." Somebody is still upset about the monday night game......;-)

@TBGBoodler: Wow!?! Really?!? You tried to bring Bush into this? I agree it was a bad move on the Redskins part, but we can't bring politics into every single aspect of our lives. It only drives us apart.....

It's a bunch of strangers performing well or poorly at some arbitrary set of rules. Enjoy it, sure, but calm the fuck down about it.

If you don't like the product on the field, don't go to the games and don't watch it on tv. Don't patronize its sponsors.

Watching the Redskins has turned into something like watching a train wreck. It's horrifying but you can't turn away.

Contrast Snyder with the Rooney family in Pittsburgh or the Mara/Tisch ownership in New York. Snyder is the Peter Angelos of football.

I generally have no problem with a private owner regulating activity at his private stadium, but when the tax payors give these NFL owners huge tax breaks and all kinds of money to build the stadium then the issue becomes much more complex. Most of these stadiums should be considered government owned until the tax breaks run out and as such should be considered public space free from censorship.

Relax man. It's entertainment as is the World Series that's starting tonight. I have a psychic investment in who wins, but the sun will still rise tomorrow (unless it rains).

We all want any number of things, if we can get complete strangers to buy them for us. (I'll take a nice brownstone in Brooklyn, please--or tickets to the Chocolate Show.) But only multi-millionaires get away with "I wanted to do this, but I would have had to pay taxes like the little people" and "but I would have had to try making a profit on my business without subsidies! Waaah!"

I happen to love watching the athleticism involved in some sports (my favorite was college football), but I can't stand the rest of the crap that comes with commercialized sports franchises. Throw away the extra three hours of advertisements and banal commentary, the "branded" stadiums, the exorbitant player salaries and egos, and the illogical bluster of sports fans who go on and on about their team and their guys, so I can focus on the tension of whether the home team will get that last 2 yards (and, I admit, how good they look in those pants). Then maybe it'll be worth the money to buy a ticket to a game.

@tbax929 is rooting for a Phillies repeat: Only yourself...when they lose to the Yankees :)

@tbax929 is rooting for a Phillies repeat: There are major differences between rugby and american football too. Rugy involves a lot of arm tackling whereas football is fullbody collision for instance.

I think hands down the rugby players are tougher for what they do and they have to have a good balance of strength and cardio as there isn't 35 seconds between each play. Hell in America we think water polo is a pussy sport but those dudes are as big as rugby players, play like rugby, AND have to tread water the whole time

But all that being said football players can be a bunch of tough mo-fos, it's just that each player is more specialiezd for his position. I would cry or crap my pants before I told Ray Lewis to shove it but if I were to tell a skinny wide receiver like Pinkston to shove it, I would be the one scaring him. Just a difference of sports.

@tbax929 is rooting for a Phillies repeat: Not that I agree completely with j-o-h-n but to be fair it is sometimes quite amusing to see a balding, fat, 45 year old man wearing a jersey and worshiping his favorite football star like a middle schooler.

@Rachacha: It's the new Consumerist scavenger hunt. Find the correct post, mark it down, send it to Ben at the end of the week.

From some of these comments Consumerist should stay away from sports since most of the idiots here don't care about sports or have played sports or have supported an activity that might be considered exercise. But for the people who do like sports, thanks for the article.

@Schildkrote:
Our forefathers died for our right to make jackasses of ourselves! If I want to paint my face red and scream at the top of my lungs for my beloved Phillies, who exactly am I hurting?

@jvanbrecht:
Written like someone who knows absolutely nothing about American Football. It's your right to like whatever you like, but don't trash a sport just because you don't like it.

You think the players are pussies? I'd love for you to walk up to Ray Lewis and tell him that to his face.

@Schildkrote: Supply and demand.

How much money are you willing to pay to see a middle school teacher teach history? And how many millions of people could be trained to teach middle school history from our population?

Compare with number and skill of NFL quarterbacks, for example. I could never be trained to throw a ball 50 yards with any accuracy, nor would fans spend millions to watch me do it (or not do it, rather).

@j-o-h-n:
Yawn. "I hate sports, so people who enjoy sports suck".

Ok I fully realize the reasoning behind the sign-bannage has nothing to do with obstructing views, but you know what... I support the ban for that exact reason!

The last time I was at a game the assclowns a few rows in front of us were trying so hard to get on TV that they held up their signs throughout 80% of the game. People around them who complained were simply ignored, and therefore some people who paid good money to see a game were instead treated to several hours of staring at the back of poster board.

Besides, do we really need another cliche-loving fan to cut out a little picket fence and a huge "D" thinking they are clever? Do we need another anti-creative inventing some clever anagram using the letters "F-O-X" or "A-B-C" or "E-S-P-N" just so they can get their 12 seconds of fame by appearing on national television?

No - we don't. What we need more of are thoughtful people who don't feel the need to obstruct the view of other fans who went to actually go to the game to *gasp* watch the game. They should institute a "no-signs" policy for every single stadium.

Not much love for Dan and Vinny these days. Yet they keep finding ways to make even more PR gaffes.

So delicious.

Can't believe I'm saying this. If you are a true Redskins fan, BOYCOTT THE TEAM! Don't buy tickets, take your name off the season ticket waiting list, don't buy or wear their merchandise. Money is the only thing Snyder understands, he doesn't give a f*** about the bad press. Losing money is the only thing that will make him listen, which will be better for the team in the long run.

@PSUSkier: It is a new consumerist feature :-) I have noticed this on a couple of other posts and thought I was going nuts.

On a positive note, at least consumerist ads fon't serve malware.

So I wonder if fans could coordinate their efforts show up to the game and all get up and walk out of the staduim 7 minutes into the first quarter while chanting whatever* they seem to be upset about, preferably on a game that was being broadcast live. Can you imagine the message that would send to the owners.

*Personally, I can not stand to watch or follow football, and while I live in the DC area, I generally tune out anything having to do with sports, so I really don't care what the fans are pissed about.

@TBGBoodler:

They have also banned the press from interviewing tailgaters in the parking lot.

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Alternatively, we could just pay the athletes reasonable rates for what they do instead of pouring money on them that they proceed to waste on exorbitant, unnecessary lifestyles. It's sad how much they make compared to, say, teachers.

Personally, I hate American football.. its a bunch of pussies who wear 40 pounds of armour.. You want a real sport, go play rugby.. or even better, Aussie rules.

The players are over paid morons (okay a few actually made it through college or high school using their brains rather then being passed by sports driven teachers and lecturers).

And Fedex field is a joke, they won't even permit people who live in the area to walk to the stadium, so if you live 200 feet away, you have to drive and pay the outragious parking fees.

STOP BUYING TICKETS.

It's a case of damned if you, damned if you don't. You can either keep paying and padding the owners wallet, or give up your tickets, and let some other sucker pad the owner's wallet.

I was at a Green Bay Packers Game last week and there was a table set up inside the stadium for fans to make their own signs. Paper and markers were supplied. If it is such a hazard, the NFL should ban it, not individual teams. The Packers encourage signs....

She ended up in that because she has "premium seats" so they make her and other fans sign multi-year contracts.

I upset a co worker once when I hung the redskins mascot from a bunch of rubber bands connected to one of the ceiling tiles :)

/Ravens Fan

Give me a break. Take your persecution fantasies somewhere else.

@lehrdude:

Here it is...

[consumerist.com]

@pecan 3.14159265:

Wasn't there a story a few weeks ago about the Redskins suing an 80-year-old woman for not renewing her season tickets like she was obligated to do?

Besides, do you not enjoy and invest yourself in the pursuits and activities of other human beings? Shall we all find the same things worthwhile?

I'm bored just by the thought of that.

Then he died, and forced his kids to buy the team from the estate, and Snyder was able to get more money, more than the "Kids discount".

@Schildkrote: There are fans with signs at pretty much every pro football game. I don't see how this is making anyone a "jackass" - they're just fans.

@bohemian: Most of the sports fans I know love sports because of the athleticism, not the drama. Mr. Pi loves sports, but constantly laments the downfall of great players due to careless and terrible mistakes that cost them their careers or lives.

My thoughts are that yes, athletes are overpaid, but there's also no one guiding them when they suddenly find themselves flush with money. Many criminal behaviors could be avoided entirely if only someone had been a source of wisdom and mentoring and steered these young athletes away from guns and the need for a certain lifestyle.

Joe Theismann was an ego-maniacal jackass, John Riggins had a drinking problem, but how I long for the old days...

@pecan 3.14159265: @

Um, made him turn his shirt inside out? That is ridiculous. His shirt's no more offensive than Eagles fans anytime they come to FedEx field.

Pi's right - Snyder's getting his ego tromped on and his short man syndrome can't take it anymore.

I quit!

The op hasn't said anything about free speech zones or that this is a violation of freedom of speech, nor has he "laughed at you when you've told him about free speech zones."

I really don't get the depths that people get into professional sports. The overpaid athletes that continue to exhibit really bad and many times criminal behavior. The blatant greed of owners and the NFL etc, the cost of anything pro sports in insane. Cheering for the home team just doesn't seem worth it.

@TBGBoodler: Yeah, I never quite grasped what genius decided it was a great idea to have the Washington Redskins play in Landover so their biggest market outside of DC (Virginia) has to cross the District. Terrible.

If it's any solace, at least the NFL is the ONE league that will take action against negligent owners, like in Detroit. It's bad for the NFL's image that the fans are vocally and obviously upset with the owner, and have been for a decade, so, some pressure will come from above that will force the Redskins hand if necessary.

Seat prices are outrageous, parking fees are too high and you get no help getting out of the stadium after the game. I know I sound like an old lady, but the PA system is too loud and commercials are blasted at you from every angle.

Food prices? Remember my story about the "feminine napkins?" Bottles of water are confiscated at the gate. It's just an all-around miserable day.

@pecan 3.14159265:

So glad I am a displaced Steeler's fan living near DC, this is high comedy!

DON'T GO TO THE GAME.

Organize with other fans/season ticket holders and pick a game for everyone not to go to. Don't re-sell or pass your tix on to someone else. Let the seat sit empty. The best part is that since the tix have been sold the game won't be blacked out. Let the TV cameras show row upon row of empty seats. That seems to be the only thing that gets the attention of the NFL front office.

It's not because they're offensive, or they obstruct view. These are both excuses. It's cause Dan Snyder's precious ego is getting hammered by people who pay good money to watch a team they love, and are gettting punished with a terrible team and no real solutions from the management. People are finally laying blame with who deserves it - the people who are making decisions, and making them poorly.

Some people just wanted to say hi to their spouses in the military posted overseas. Some people had signs encouraging the team.

I say if Vinny Cerrato can spend so much time making stupid, cheap car commercials instead of actually doing his job, he deserves the ridicule. Anyone who has been to an area AMC theater has seen this craptastic work.

I love how sports fans get upset they can't bring their signs in the stadium and at the same time the very same people laugh at you when you tell them about the free speech zones.

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/frmr skins fan

Sigh...

You will like your Free Speech Zones.

On the bright side, sign-related injuries are down 400%.