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Damn, that's just grimy. Dealerships trying to double their CARS profit because they damn well know they won't even sell half the amount of cars in the next 12 months they did during the rebate period!
@bloggerX: \"Profit\" and \"money they received from the government\" are entirely different things. I work at a dealership and am the only person there who's had anything to do with submitting CARS deals to the gov't. For most of these deals, there was no \"profit\" to speak of. Add to that the interest we're LOSING because we don't have the clunker money in the bank and it's not that great a proposition for us on the front end of things.
@akiri:
@Akiri:
Then don't make the deal. No one forced you to sell the cars. Please don't act like you did the buyers a favor.
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@akiri: If your firm can't pull in profits even with taxpayers throwing many thousands of dollars at you, perhaps you shouldn't be in business?
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@Trai_Dep: how can you pull in profit when $4,000 is left unpaid on every deal?
reading comprehension, catch the fever!
@KingPsyz here for HappyFunKingPsyz©: For the dealerships that obeyed the rules, they got the $4,000. For the ones trying to pull a fast one (or charitably, decided to roll the dice), they're encountering problems. And rather than owning up to dealer incompetence, they're trying to make trusting consumers swallow the loss that's the fault of car dealers.
You guys aren't looking a gift horse in the mouth, you're ripping its jaw out and waving it around angrily.
Oh, and you're welcome for our giving you guys a couple billion to goose your lot sales.
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@bloggerX: Umm, and when did you expect any car dealership to be honest? Really. Try being a woman and walking into any car-related business. Even if you know your stuff you have to be incredibly careful.
It would not surprise me in the least if the majority of dealerships were pulling this crap.
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@AshCatScram:
I don't think it's gender related. Most people leave a dealership feeling as if they've been ripped off.
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@tbax929: Ripped off is a G-rated way of putting it...heh.
That being said, my dealership has a strict no-haggling rule, of which I am a HUGE fan. Their prices are good, and you know that you didn't get a better or worse deal than Joe Shmoe who came in after you. Their salesmen also don't work on commission, which makes a huge difference in how you're treated. In a good way.
@katstermonster:
That would be a nice way to shop. I always take my car-salesman brother with me, and I still leave feeling as if I could've done better.
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That's pretty shady of the part of the stealerships to try to get that money back, even though it was forbiden to them to do so.
But, then again, that's par for the course.
@Nogard13: Shut the fuck up Donny, you're all out of your element...
A dealership would have to be plain retarded to try and ask for the money already paid to them by the government. One it's a felony, two they know it's a $15,000 fine if caught per customer.
I know nobody here at the consumerist will belive this, it's shocking I know, but the clerical portion of C4C is completely broken and hackneyed. The government is also looking for every and any reason to deny rebates, you were a day late on renewing your registration? DENIED. You made a late payment on your insurance and they marked it in their system as no longer covered? DENIED. Clerical error on your title? DENIED.
We have had perfectly submitted claims denied because someone, somewhere, be it at a DMV in another state, or an insurance company spelled someone's name wrong once or put in the wrong address come back DENIED. Granted we got to resubmit some as I think the NHTSA realised someone was being a bit heavy handed. But this is a reality, and the more the Edmunds dot communists rattle their sabers, the less likely any dealer will ever participate in any future program, meaning even if they offer it again, few will be able to use the program due to lack of dealers willing to eat several thousand dollars again.
@Nogard13: From what I've gathered, the dealerships doing this are doing so because they got denied on the goverment paperwork side. You're trying to tell me that a dealership isnt clear on the rules beforehand *and* after the fact?
The dealerships that did their homework aren't complaining at all. I have no pity for those that tried to capitalize on the popularity without RTFM-ing.
@Nogard13: It seems dumb. These dealers are going to be hung out to dry if they get caught doing this. It's sad that criminals think they can get away with crap like this.