September 18, 2009 4:44 PM

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Alex Chasick

@Blackfished: Oops.

September 18, 2009 4:43 PM

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pb5000

Ok, when I read it I thought that Kathleen Sebelius was a major bitch for doing that to Chuck Todd. Then I watched the video and thought that was tastefully done, not really embarrassing since she turned it into more of a humorous moment over anything else. No big deal.

September 18, 2009 4:45 PM

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DollaValueLIFO

@pb5000:

What's sad/funny is that I just heard Rush Limbaugh cite this as an example of a \"controlling\" government.

Seriously.

September 18, 2009 6:38 PM

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Skankingmike

@DollaValueLIFO: only if it's a law. Otherwise no different than say duck and cover. it's a safety precaution who the hell doesn't know not to sneeze in your hand. And then who's stupid enough to think that they're rebelling by sneezing into your hand?

September 18, 2009 5:09 PM

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MostlyHarmless

@DollaValueLIFO: *facepalm*

@pb5000: I read the headline somewhere, and I was like \"wow, thats bitchy\" and then I was the video. I was like \"oh cool\".

September 18, 2009 4:47 PM

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SpruceStreetPhil - in a new Pine flavor

@DollaValueLIFO: I want a \"if you sneeze in your hand you pay the man\" fine - 50 bucks a pop.

September 18, 2009 4:43 PM

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NigerianScammer

Good, he got what was comin' to 'em.

September 18, 2009 4:45 PM

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Moosehawk

I can't stand when people sneeze into their hands. It's disgusting and I can't understand why anyone would think it's a good idea in the first place. I love this video and thank you Kathleen Sebelius for living up to your job title.

September 21, 2009 7:17 PM

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fusilier

@Moosehawk: I prefer to aim it out in the open, far away from myself. Better on someone else than on me. :)

September 19, 2009 6:00 PM

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maztec

@SpruceStreetPhil: Personally, I use my elbows rather than my hands to hold my hooha.

September 18, 2009 5:23 PM

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GuinevereRucker

@Moosehawk: I think people are a little to germophobic these days. I like to be exposed to all the germs I can to build up my immune system :)

Kinda reminds me of Roman times, when lepers had ring bells and loudly announce their presence wherever they went.

Maybe I'll start doing that so people know before they shake my hand that I don't wash AND I sneeze into my hand AND I pick my nose.

September 18, 2009 6:01 PM

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Michael Belisle

@SpruceStreetPhil: Sure, but in the case of sneezing nobody is washing their hands afterwards. Except me, where if I do accidently sneeze into my hands instead of my elbow, I go wash them because I look out for people who might soon be shaking my now snotty hands.

Also, I like that I can now pat myself on the back because nobody ever told me to sneeze into my elbow, but I figured out that it had to be a better way.

@GuinevereRucker: Are you saying you preferred the days when the plebians' life expectancy was 25 and the median age was 21? Clearly, all those germs did wonders for longevity.

September 19, 2009 1:42 AM

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GuinevereRucker

@Michael Belisle: There were many factors that contributed to the life expectancy back then... like dumping raw sewage into the streets, lack of vaccinations/treatments for common disease, lack of knowledge of basic sanitation and medical procedures we take for granted. Heck, we don't leech people today to cure the flu.

Add to this the fact that recent generations have MORE allergies than previous generations because they're sequestered in their rooms all day playing video games.

So yeah, I still think people can be germophobes to a disturbing degree. Like that woman. She's worried less about being polite and embarrassing people and more about being germ-free.

September 19, 2009 6:45 PM

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Witera33it

@GuinevereRucker: I find your statements to be quaintly ignorant. What you are saying is that you don't care about the people you infect, NOT that you don't care about getting sick yourself. People are germaphobes because they don't want to be sick. Perhaps they can't afford to take that time off from work, or they have a family they would like to keep from getting sick.
You think that simple exposure is what builds your immune system, not true. Riding out the illness, instead of taking antibiotics, is how you build your immune system. Also, many allergies are caused by over-exposure, and a resultant over-reaction by ones immune system. I developed an allergy to latex, as many people whole wear latex gloves all the time do.
Illnesses easily avoided by hand washing: The common cold, the flu, conjunctivitis, MRSA.
Illnesses you can help prevent the spread of by covering your mouth while sneezing or coughing. Or better yet staying home while sick, the common cold, the flu, and virtually anything else you might have, that can be spread by the airborne vector.
You believe that being polite is important right? How rude is it to impose your illnesses on others? Just because you believe that people are too germaphobic, doesn't mean that you should impose your beliefs on others by not washing your hands, and spreading all sorts of viruses as bacteria on the unwilling?
BTW the basic sanitation that you mentioned, is HAND WASHING.

September 20, 2009 12:42 AM

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GuinevereRucker

@Witera33it: Yeah, that all makes sense. And you're right, I do think being polite is important.

I just think people go a bit overboard sometimes with the germophobe thing. I've just never worried about germs, and I don't get sick that often (nor does my wife). That doesn't mean I'm the model of cleanliness, but I just think people take it to extremes sometimes.

September 18, 2009 7:10 PM

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floraposte

@Michael Belisle: It's another one of those Consumerist vox pop splits--it's revolting not to wash your hands after you've used the bathroom, but you can sneeze in 'em any old time.

September 18, 2009 4:50 PM

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SpruceStreetPhil - in a new Pine flavor

@Moosehawk: Its better than just into the air. That's like saying \"I can't believe men use their hands to hold their hoohas to pee.\" - Its OK if you just wash your hands afterward.

September 18, 2009 6:00 PM

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PeterFS

@SpruceStreetPhil: The big difference being I usually pee in a place with a sink and soap. No such guarantee on the sneezing.

September 18, 2009 8:05 PM

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Trai_Dep

@PeterFS: Wouldn't it be more time-effective to simply pee in a sink with water & soap?

September 18, 2009 5:22 PM

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MostlyHarmless

@SpruceStreetPhil:

Except that in the case of men, we really do not have a choice. Theres just too many variables involved to let it go solo during the performance.

In the case of sneezing, you do have multiple options and some are much better than others.

September 18, 2009 8:03 PM

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Trai_Dep

@MostlyHarmless: And, of course, for some of us men, one hand is structurally incapable of supporting such a massive, overhanging weight.
*cough*

September 18, 2009 5:13 PM

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MostlyHarmless

@TCama: I just prefer to use a hanky or a tissue.

September 18, 2009 8:00 PM

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Trai_Dep

@MostlyHarmless: I prefer to sneeze into the small of the back of the person standing in front of me. Then feign surprise then glare at the person standing next to me when the victim whirls around, incensed.
Although my mom raised me right: I refuse to clear a runny nose across their shoulder.

September 18, 2009 5:16 PM

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The Porkchop Express

@MostlyHarmless: to hold your hooha?

September 18, 2009 5:20 PM

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MostlyHarmless

@The Porkchop Express: Wow that was not supposed to show up here. And WTF happened to the big comment that I DID post here :(

September 18, 2009 5:23 PM

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Alex Chasick

@MostlyHarmless: This comment thread is really upsetting.

September 18, 2009 8:04 PM

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Trai_Dep

@Alex Chasick: Just wait until GoGettemSteve enters the fray with high-rez, supporting picts and get back to us, okay?

September 18, 2009 5:26 PM

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MostlyHarmless

@Alex Chasick: Hahaha yeah. I noticed it when MooseHawk replied and I was like \"best comment glitch ever!\".

September 18, 2009 9:32 PM

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Moosehawk

@MostlyHarmless: I replied? lol. I haven't even looked at this thread again 'till now.

September 18, 2009 9:39 PM

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MostlyHarmless

@Moosehawk: blah. i meant pork chop express. I am so out of it today.

September 18, 2009 4:45 PM

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smartmuffin

The guy should have walked up to the podium and sneezed in her face.

September 19, 2009 1:57 PM

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ARPRINCE

@smartmuffin: You should change your name. You don't sound too SMART for me. Try changing it with a letter that starts with D.

September 19, 2009 4:52 AM

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boxjockey68

@smartmuffin: Yea, the white house shouldn't throw ANY stones right now..
1984 yes indeed.

September 18, 2009 4:51 PM

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pecan 3.14159265

@smartmuffin: Why? She's in charge of Health and Human Services. It's ridiculous that she needs to teach this to adults. This is something you learn when you're a child.

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Rectilinear Propagation

@pecan 3.14159265: As a little kid I was always just told to cover my mouth. I can not recall anyone adding that you should use your arm and not your hands.

Still, I think sneezing into your hands is unpleasant. You get yuck all over your hands (and therefore anything you touch after that). A few bad sneezes and you'll figure out on your own that sneezing into your hands is a bad idea.

September 18, 2009 4:54 PM

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smartmuffin

@pecan 3.14159265: She doesn't *need* to teach it to anyone, because it's ridiculous alarmist behavior. I've sneezed into my hand my whole life, virtually never get sick. Figure that one out.

Utilizing public shaming to enforce government-approved behaviors is *literally* straight out of 1984...

September 18, 2009 8:13 PM

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Trai_Dep

@smartmuffin: You were silent when the last guy authorized illegal wiretaps of hundreds of millions of Americans in secret, then tried to prosecute the reporters that exposed this crime. But you think that a H&HS Secretary gently chiding a reporter to sneeze differently is \"literally straight out of 1984\"?!
Sigh...

September 18, 2009 6:15 PM

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cc82

@smartmuffin:
No shit you don't get sick from sneezing into your own hand. Your filthy sneeze means you're already sick. The point is not to get OTHER people sick.

September 18, 2009 6:26 PM

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pecan 3.14159265

@cc82: Actually, that's not true. Sneezing does not mean you're sick. Sneezing is a response to particles irritating the nasal mucosa. People with allergies sneeze, but it doesn't mean they're sick - it means they've got allergies.

But it doesn't mean that you aren't carrying germs. The common cold incubates in the body anywhere from 2 to 5 days before symptoms begin to appear, so you could be carrying the germs before you even start feeling the headaches and runny nose. It just takes one sneeze, and a hand on a door handle for germs to spread.

September 18, 2009 6:05 PM

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DollaValueLIFO

@smartmuffin:

Rush, is that you?

If you had seen the video, you would have noticed it was a rather light-hearted discussion. Smiles all around, and good information to boot.

September 18, 2009 4:59 PM

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ScubaSteveKzoo

@smartmuffin: Yea, because you'll always get sick from your own germs.

It's so that when you shake someone's hand they don't pick up YOUR germs.

September 18, 2009 5:05 PM

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smartmuffin

@ScubaSteveKzoo: I don't go around shaking lots of hands.

Sorry, I don't buy all this paranoid germaphobe stuff. I subscribe to the George Carlin theory of disease prevention, \"You're weak and you have a weak immune system!\"

September 18, 2009 5:47 PM

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Veeber

@smartmuffin: You probably don't put the toilet seat down either right?

September 18, 2009 5:15 PM

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MostlyHarmless

@smartmuffin: Keep it up bro!

Your comment has SO much more credibility now that I know what an inconsiderate jerk you are.

September 18, 2009 5:48 PM

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smartmuffin

@MostlyHarmless: Why are you so scared of my germs if I'm not even sick?

If YOU practice great hygeine, why does it matter if you touch a doorknob that I touched? Surely you'll wash your hands before your hand that touched the doorknob that touched my hand enters your mouth or nose or some other such thing, right?

Call me inconsiderate if you want, I just really can't be bothered to waste time considering things like this. I'm gonna go ahead and sneeze in my hand. If this concerns you, I highly suggest YOU wash YOUR hands before eating rather than hold me to some ridiculous \"sneeze in your arm\" standard.

September 18, 2009 5:52 PM

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MostlyHarmless

@smartmuffin: Oh and yeah, you can do whatever the hell YOU want, and others can humiliate you for that however they want. If you have the right to be a jerk to others, others have a right to be a jerk to you. So suck it up.

September 18, 2009 5:57 PM

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smartmuffin

@MostlyHarmless: So, sneezing into your hand (which is still taking a step to not release your germs into the public at large, it's not as if you're just sneezing into the open) is the equivalent of blowing smoke in peoples faces and attempting to humiliate them publicly?

And you wonder why I call you paranoid?

If you're this scared of germs, I hope you aren't merely relying on *everyone in the world* sneezing into their arms to prevent you from getting sick. I always just assume that any doorknob/keyboard/whatever is covered in germs, and it's up to ME to wash my hands if I'm concerned about it. But since I never get sick, I'm not concerned about it. Everyone else in my office uses their hand too. How in the world are we not all dead from the latest terrible flu pandemic? It's a miracle, charlie brown!

September 18, 2009 7:13 PM

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floraposte

@smartmuffin: No, sneezing into your hand is the equivalent of not washing your hands after you use the bathroom. But you're right, you're not alone in not doing these things and the rest of us do have to wash up to minimize contagion from people who don't.

September 18, 2009 7:02 PM

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Rey

@smartmuffin: @smartmuffin: You are the one who is ridiculous if you don't even understand basic common courtesy and the transmission of disease.

What does your spouse think about your selfish perspective? You're so charming in every respect, you can't possibly be single, right?

September 18, 2009 6:01 PM

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MostlyHarmless

@smartmuffin: Yeah, I know your type. You just refuse to get the point. And keep on going like a broken record. Like that person who said that some random old stranger is justified in repeatedly hitting your 2 year old kid in the face because she was crying.

This conversation is over.

September 18, 2009 5:51 PM

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MostlyHarmless

@smartmuffin: I suppose you blow your cigarette smoke into other peoples faces too.

September 18, 2009 5:11 PM

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DePaulBlueDemon

@smartmuffin:

Alarmist behavior? LMAO. It's the polite thing to do. No one wants your germs, so please keep them to yourself.

September 18, 2009 5:08 PM

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pecan 3.14159265

@smartmuffin: It's not paranoid, it's basic hygiene and consideration for others.

September 18, 2009 4:57 PM

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pecan 3.14159265

@smartmuffin: The germs you spread by touching things with those filthy hands probably got someone else sick.

Typhoid Mary didn't get typhoid, but guess who did? Oh yeah, a ton of other people.

September 18, 2009 4:46 PM

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pecan 3.14159265

The country thanks you, Kathleen Sebelius, Chuck Todd probably thanks you - but above all, the people around Chuck Todd thank you.

September 18, 2009 6:51 PM

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Yoko Broke Up The Beatles

@pecan 3.14159265:

I would be OK with it if Chuck Todd sneezed onto a Fox News reporter.

September 18, 2009 4:46 PM

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Elmo knows how to sneeze.

September 18, 2009 5:06 PM

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gStein_*|bringing starpipe back|*

@SpruceStreetPhil: ++

September 18, 2009 4:50 PM

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calquist

I only sneeze in my hands if I happen to be at Wal-Mart. Go ahead and check my receipt now, suckas!

September 18, 2009 4:52 PM

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Chumas

@calquist: biological warfare at its finest.

September 18, 2009 4:56 PM

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Hooray4Zoidberg

Sneezing into your elbow works until you get one of the sneezes where you blow snot onto your sleeve. At least with your hands you can wash and you don't have to walk around with boogers on your arm.

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Rectilinear Propagation

@Hooray4Zoidberg: I thought the point of sneezing into your arm was to get you to point your head down and away from other people, not to literally put your face into your sleeve.

September 18, 2009 7:15 PM

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jbrecken

@Hooray4Zoidberg: If a tissue is unavailable, I pull out my collar and sneeze down inside the front of my shirt. In the worst case, any offensive matter is trapped between my shirt and undershirt, so no one sees it and I'm not touching it.

September 20, 2009 3:33 PM

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vinhpoo

@jbrecken: Part of me hopes you're kidding but part of me doesn't because it's funnier if it's true.

September 18, 2009 6:18 PM

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cc82

@Hooray4Zoidberg: If your sneezes are that consistently that disgusting and boogerey then maybe it's time to invest in a handkerchief or on of those mini packs of tissues.

September 18, 2009 5:30 PM

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Mike8813

@Hooray4Zoidberg: Bingo. I've had some terribly messy sneezes that I wouldn't want crusted on my shirt the rest of the day. I'm talkin' getting slimed on Nickelodeon in the 90's type stuff.

September 18, 2009 5:18 PM

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The Porkchop Express

@Hooray4Zoidberg: I cut holes in my sleeves so that the snot goes in the shirt.

problem is that I get cuts from when it dries up.

September 18, 2009 5:01 PM

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pecan 3.14159265

@Hooray4Zoidberg: Your logic is sadly lost on most people who continue to sneeze on their hands and touch eeeeeverything. Sometime last year, I saw a guy on the metro sneeze into a tissue and throw the tissue under his seat.

September 18, 2009 4:58 PM

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TCama

Is it just me, or was \"sneeze in your hand\" all the rage only two years or so ago? I seem to remember that sneezing in one's elbow only became fashionable very recently.

September 18, 2009 8:51 PM

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Nicole

@TCama: Agreed. I've never even heard of sneezing into one's elbow instead of your hands until the last few MONTHS. I was always taught to sneeze into my hand as a kid, as was everyone I know. Really not sure where all this sneeze into your elbow stuff came from all of a sudden.

September 19, 2009 4:00 AM

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AlexDitto

@Nicole: See, I must be really weird, because I was taught to sneeze into my shoulder, but I must have been the only one because no one else seems to mention it. It's all about the elbow these days.

I think the shoulder's better. It's further yet from the hand, it's very unlikely you'll touch your own shoulder, and you don't look quite as silly when you do it; it's a bit closer to the face.

September 19, 2009 4:50 AM

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catastrophegirl chooses not to fly

@AlexDitto: my mom taught me to always just have a wadded kleenex stuffed in my pocket, ready to go.
my boss at my first job included sneezing into your shoulder. it was a food service place and i am really appreciative of his consideration. now if any of the other fast food places i worked had impressed that upon employees, i'd feel a lot better about eating anything i didn't make myself

September 19, 2009 12:21 AM

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psm321

@Nicole: Odd, I've always been taught elbow

September 18, 2009 5:24 PM

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Brazell

@TCama: Agreed here. It's like the \"hot air blower\" thing. Those were ALL THE RAGE like 4 years ago. Turns out they spread like 200x the germs as paper towels, even the \"non-touch\" ones.

September 18, 2009 5:54 PM

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Alex Chasick

@MichaelBrazell: They also meant no paper towels that one could use to open the door.

September 18, 2009 6:16 PM

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pecan 3.14159265

@Alex Chasick: I don't touch bathroom doors. I started to think I was being paranoid, but yesterday, a woman exited the bathroom without washing her hands and she used the door handle. No thanks on using the door handle. I'll keep hitting the 'handicap' button with my elbow when I leave.

September 18, 2009 5:11 PM

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zentex

I'm waiting for someone to go on a tirade about how govt employee's in a govt building on govt time said \"bless you\" and how that's using religion in govt and not following the separation of church and state.

Everyone knows you expel demons and spirits from your body when you sneeze. ...duh! heh.

September 19, 2009 4:52 AM

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catastrophegirl chooses not to fly

@zentex: i feel they should say 'dominik tekun' which is basque and would help prevent the fairies from stealing my soul and performing midsummer rites with it.
[seriously weird language - have a MODERN phrase book for it which includes the phrase 'has there been a werewolf seen around here?' ]

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macinjosh

@zentex:

\"Everyone knows you expel demons and spirits from your body when you sneeze. ...duh! heh. \"

No, when you sneeze, that's your soul trying to escape. Saying god bless you crams it back in.

September 18, 2009 7:07 PM

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ARP

@zentex: I don't understand. The Obama administration hates America and Christanity. They're all right wing muslims/ left wing godless communists. Why did she say that?

September 21, 2009 7:20 PM

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fusilier

@ARP: I'm atheist and I always say 'bless you' when someone sneezes. Explain to me that one!

September 18, 2009 5:35 PM

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madanthony

@zentex:

I've taken some poops that I'm pretty sure expelled demons.

September 18, 2009 6:31 PM

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Whtthfgg

@madanthony: +1

September 18, 2009 5:13 PM

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DePaulBlueDemon

She was really cute about it... Like a kindergarten teacher. :) Everyone got a good laugh and she got her message across.

September 18, 2009 6:53 PM

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Yoko Broke Up The Beatles

@DePaulBlueDemon:

Agreed. But don't be surprised when the right jumps all over her for not being tough on germs!

September 18, 2009 5:33 PM

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Rookerith

Alright, I haven't posted on Consumerist in quite sometime, but it's irrational how some of you are taking this.

If he wants to sneeze in his hand, he has the will to do whatever he wants. As for me, I'd rather sneeze in my hand, and not shake any hands until I wash them, then get my elbow suit sleeve all nasty sneezy.

September 19, 2009 4:04 PM

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SalParadise

@Rookerith: @Rookerith: The man's wearing a suit, surely he has room in there for a hankie? And, no, not a silk one he might not want to get soiled by actually using it, a nice, big, cotton hankie. Or some tissue.

September 18, 2009 7:15 PM

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floraposte

@Rookerith: Nobody's suggesting hauling him away and waterboarding him. Of course he gets to sneeze in his hand if he wants. And other people get to shun, accept, sneer, or cheer him as they want. Which we're doing.

September 18, 2009 7:11 PM

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ARP

@Rookerith: That's right. And if I want to blow smoke in someone's face, I have every right to. I can also cut in line if I feel like it. It's called consideration.

September 18, 2009 5:51 PM

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Veeber

@Rookerith: And that's why I have to walk around with hand sanitizer. When I was doing computer support I would get sick 3-4 times a year from all the germs on the public keyboard. Once I got religious about using hand sanitizer after every computer it got cut down to maybe once a year.

September 18, 2009 8:19 PM

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Trai_Dep

@Veeber: Err, no.
Both the cold and the flu are spread by viruses.
Those \"anti-disinfectants\" are a scam since they're sold on the premise of preventing these, when hand sanitizers do absolutely nothing that affects them.
Warm, soapy water for at least 15 seconds, will. However, they can't really sell to the rubes if they publicize this, can they?

September 19, 2009 1:56 AM

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witeowl

@Trai_Dep: What exactly do \"anti-disinfectants\" do? Are they \"infectants\"? As in, do they infect stuff/people? Would they be weapons in germ warfare? Or just the stuff you would use against the weapons you would use against germ warfare? I'm so absolutely confused.

But they're a scam, you say. Well, I guess that's a relief. Right?

September 18, 2009 8:29 PM

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DoubleBaconVeggieBurger

@Trai_Dep: Actually, alcohol-based sanitizers do kill the cold and flu virus.

[www.mayoclinic.com]

September 18, 2009 11:26 PM

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Trai_Dep

@Ayarkay:

Proper hand-washing techniques
Good hand-washing techniques include washing your hands with soap and water or using an alcohol-based hand sanitizer. Antimicrobial wipes or towelettes are just as effective as soap and water in cleaning your hands but aren't as good as alcohol-based sanitizers.
Antibacterial soaps have become increasingly popular in recent years. However, these soaps are no more effective at killing germs than is regular soap. Using antibacterial soaps may lead to the development of bacteria that are resistant to the products' antimicrobial agents - making it even harder to kill these germs in the future. In general, regular soap is fine. The combination of scrubbing your hands with soap - antibacterial or not - and rinsing them with water loosens and removes bacteria from your hands.

Lesson learned. Thanks!

September 18, 2009 5:39 PM

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pecan 3.14159265

@Rookerith: But you touch things. You touch your stuff, other people's stuff, chairs, desks, doors. That's my problem. I don't shake hands very often, but right now I'm touching a keyboard. Imagine if the cleaning woman who handled my cubicle sneezed into her hands and touched my desk before going to wash her hands?

September 18, 2009 5:53 PM

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allstarecho

Yeah, give him some Purell hand sanitizer because we need more triclosan in our bodies that causes resistant strains of bacteria to develop in the first place.

September 19, 2009 2:01 PM

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AmbroseP

@allstarecho:
Don't bust the science card when a lot of the research is inconclusive. I hate when people do that.

September 18, 2009 9:47 PM

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ecwis

@allstarecho: Seriously. Why is everyone acting like the swine flu is going to kill everyone? It's less severe than the seasonal flu. Just wash your hands frequently with non anti-bacterial soap frequently.

September 19, 2009 4:05 AM

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AlexDitto

@ecwis: It's not that it's more severe. It's that it's possible that it's more contagious, and it's completely new, which means we don't have any resistance to it, which means it could spread to a large portion of the population quickly, which is not good news for the babes or the old-timers. I feel like the media doesn't make this clear enough.

And you don't need anti-bacterial soap. Regular soap and hot water will do just fine.

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Denise Voskuil-Marre

@allstarecho: Purell hand sanitizer is pretty much just ethyl alcohol and aloe gel, no triclosan or other stuff in there.

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Cybrczch

@allstarecho: Reading the bottle of Purel Hand Sanitizer on my desk - active ingredient is ethyl alcohol 62% - no triclosan at all.

September 18, 2009 6:38 PM

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Yoko Broke Up The Beatles

Also, don't interrupt award show speeches, or you'll be shamed by the White House. Off the record, of course.

September 18, 2009 7:13 PM

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ARP

@Yoko Broke Up The Beatles: I actually thought that was hilarious. It's too bad that in this political climate, that he couldn't say that publicly for fear that Glen Beck would go on a tirade about Obama trying to harm our children by saying a bad word.

September 18, 2009 9:45 PM

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MostlyHarmless

@ARP: I agree with Pecan Pi here. As a President, he has really no business voicing opinions on something that irrelevant. Does not suit his stature, so to speak.

The \"jackass\" incident happened when they were between shots and prepping for other stuff. As a human, he is totally free to voice his opinions in a private chat, and that is prettymuch what he did. And it was hilarious. Espe that \"cmon guys, cut the president some slack\" line. I was just laughing before that, but at that one i fell out of my chair.

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pecan 3.14159265

@ARP: He didn't say it publicly not because of the political climate, but because he's the PRESIDENT. He has more important things to worry about officially than to issue a stupid press release on Kanye West.

September 18, 2009 7:28 PM

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Burning pakalolo not even noticing the weather

@MostlyHarmless: you can't seem to keep my ideas out of your mouth can you? Before you get on smart muffin about not getting the point and sounding like a broken record maybe you should apply it to yourself. We all have opinions and just because you don't agree with it doesn't make your opinion correct. Get over what I said in that thread, everyone else has.

September 18, 2009 7:36 PM

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MostlyHarmless

@itiswhatitis: Someone is still bitter.

And thanks for just reinforcing my point. Your problem is not that you made a patently stupid point, but the fact that you refused to admit that it was stupid, and going as far as to blame others for attacking you when they pointed out that it was stupid (After you said it was cool to attack kids, and that it was cool for you to voice your opinions).

You have the right to voice your opinions and so do others.

September 18, 2009 7:36 PM

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JGKojak

I love Kathleen - she was my Gov. for 6 years.

A note: as A Democrat she governed a state whose legislature was 2/3 Republican, and she had them on their knees and eating out of her hand. DO NOT FUNK WITH KATHLEEN- SHE'LL TAKE YOU DOWN (with a smile, just like on this video).

Seriously, she had them running in circles looking like idiots.

September 18, 2009 7:36 PM

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JGKojak

@JGKojak: I know, I know, they're Republicans... its pretty easy to make them look like idiots.

September 18, 2009 8:30 PM

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DoubleBaconVeggieBurger

@JGKojak: Cool.

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pecan 3.14159265

@JGKojak: Not cool.

September 18, 2009 9:16 PM

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JGKojak

@pecan 3.14159265:

Prove to me Republicans are not idiots.

1) Punk'd by Bush into going to war unnecesarrily.
2) Massive tools of corporate America (not that Max Baucus isn't any different)
3) Getting punk'd by rightwing talkshow hosts into the whole birther thing.
4) No better than Dems at deficit control.
5) Running around screaming about Socialism when they obviously know NOTHING about real Socialism and how far away we are from that.

Need more?

September 18, 2009 9:51 PM

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MostlyHarmless

@JGKojak: Also, when was the last time you actually saw someone on the internet concede a point on a topic like this?

September 18, 2009 9:50 PM

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MostlyHarmless

@JGKojak: Not cool because this is not a political discussion.

Also name calling does not really help anyone. Sure a number of republicans these days have resorted to name calling and outrageous lies, but how are you any better if you cannot maintain your civility?

Now dont get me wrong, I would LOVE to see karma catch up (in a big way) on a lot of these guys, but I would prefer to do that while staying above the mud.

September 18, 2009 7:43 PM

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Burning pakalolo not even noticing the weather

@MostlyHarmless: I'm not bitter, Im just tired of self important a-holes that don't know how to drop a topic or heed their own advice. I enjoy reading consumerist but is it necessary to keep bringing up a thread from a few weeks ago because you didn't agree with the subject? I think not. I never said anyone was right or wrong, I just loved how because I stated my opinion I was called names and wished miscarriages and death. Get over how I feel about something and keep my name and ideas out of your mouth.

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MostlyHarmless

@itiswhatitis:

I didnt even mention your name, for one. And I only brought your comment up as an example of where this thread would go if it continued further. Which unfortunately is where it is heading right now thanks to you.

Also, \"Th NR ncdnt\" happened 2 months ago, and we still bring it up. You are going to have to live with it. It is a part of the Consumerist folklore now.

In any case, I hope to leave this at that.

September 18, 2009 7:47 PM

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Digitizer

Ms. Sebelius should instruct President Obama to sanitize his hands the next time he kills a nasty fly with it during an interview, where hands are usually shaken.

September 18, 2009 11:30 PM

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Trai_Dep

@Digitizer: The President has death-dealing, Ninja hands. Would YOU like to be the aide to raise the issue with him?

September 19, 2009 4:08 AM

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AlexDitto

@Digitizer: The President's hands are so powerful, he can catch and crush individual germs with them.

They are... the SANITIZERS.

September 18, 2009 8:13 PM

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Quilt

Fucking germophobia. I'll cough where I damn well please. Wash your hands before you eat and guess what? You won't have anything to worry about if you shake my Swine Flew ridden hands.

September 19, 2009 2:35 AM

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witeowl

@Quilt: That's what I figured when I coated all your doorknobs with poison.

September 18, 2009 10:38 PM

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C0mdrData

As someone in their 50's, I can attest to the fact that this habit is tough to break. In elementary school in the 1960's, it was constantly drilled into us to cover our face, with our hands, if we sneeze or cough. This was repeated at home.

September 19, 2009 3:41 AM

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witeowl

@C0mdrData: Depending on what shirts you wear, it might be easier to transition into coughing into your collar. It's a more similar motion to your (and my old) habit.

Of course, you might then get a chest cold. (Ha!)

September 18, 2009 10:56 PM

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baristabrawl

I saw this. It was AWESOME!

September 18, 2009 11:18 PM

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Mr.Duke

Chuck, you simple twit.

September 19, 2009 12:48 AM

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RayDelMundo

I sneeze into my hands also. I won't be changing.
I also don't wash my hands after taking a leak. I don't piss on my hands and my dick isn't dirty.
Do you wash your hands after you scratch your arm?
Oh yeah, I leave the seat up or just piss on the seat.

September 19, 2009 2:04 AM

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Kyin

When I have to sneeze I pull my shirt over my nose and sneeze. No gooey elbow and no messy hands. When I get home and take a shower, it's all gone. No one has to deal with it but me.

September 19, 2009 6:28 AM

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biggeek3

I always keep a back pocket with a handful of napkins and yank them out and sneeze into them when necessary. Napkins are available freely everywhere and I don't have to snot up the crook of my arm with the alternate method.

September 20, 2009 9:30 PM

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banmojo

I rub hospital style antibiotic gel on my hands after either blowing my nose or sneezing INTO MY HANDS. This bitch can go fornicate herself, seriously.

September 21, 2009 5:43 PM

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littleAK

There was some mention of this, but people are often sick long before they show symptoms. Also, one could carry a germ and never show symptoms, but that same germ caught by another could result in some severe sickness. Nobody can really go about saying he is \"never sick,\" \"germ free,\" or \"clean.\" While we have to assume that there are non-handwashers and hand-sneezers out there, I am not sure I would be proud enough to be one of them to announce it in a public medium.

September 21, 2009 6:03 PM

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vladthepaler

I prefer to sneeze into my knee.