var json_comments = new Array("<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-15582901\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=802739\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-802739-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=802739\">Stephmo</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15582901\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T17:06:24-05:00\">September 24, 2009  5:06 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15582901);\">Moderate</a> |</span>	<script type=\"text/javascript\" src=\"http://consumerist.com/mt-static/plugins/Moderate/moderate.js\"></script>	<script type=\"text/javascript\">		successMsg = \"\";	</script><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15582901');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>Keep in Mind that there are many FICOs - Auto, Mortgage, CreditCard, custom scores and the like.</p><p>FICO '08 isn't just a simple switch pull for most banks/lenders because of a number of reasons.  In order to implement it, they'll have to test their custom scorecards against it and ensure that everything will still break across the same lines.  This costs money and time.  On top of that, credit systems will require a lot of testing and analysis just to ensure that auto decisioning based on FICO scores are still breaking along the correct lines - which means that the major bureaus are going to need to provide sandboxes that I'm willing to bet they may not have fully developed.</p><p>In all honesty, I think it's great that they drop hints like this about your score...but expecting traditional lending institutions to become early adopters for these new models is sheer crazy.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15582901, 'Stephmo')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->							<div class=\"num-replies\">1 replies</div>	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-15592723\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=185880\"><img        src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=185880\">FDCPAGuy</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15592723\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T22:49:58-05:00\">September 24, 2009 10:49 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15592723);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15592723');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c15582901\" rel=\"nofollow\">Stephmo</a>: <br />In addition FICO 08 is not an established standard in the secondary market meaning that until people can sell loans with FICO08 reports it won't be used :)</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15592723, 'FDCPAGuy')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>    </div>","<div 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Then take the money they wasted on contractors to fund actually running the agency properly.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15586679, 'bohemian')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->                    <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-15584702\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=815421\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-815421-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=815421\">cheepers</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15584702\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T18:01:22-05:00\">September 24, 2009  6:01 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15584702);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15584702');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c15582937\" rel=\"nofollow\">AngryK9</a>: I'd like to know too, although it's too late for me, since I've been paying Sallie Mae back for two years now...</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15584702, 'cheepers')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-15586620\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=104285\"><img        src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=104285\">bohemian</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15586620\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T19:05:14-05:00\">September 24, 2009  7:05 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15586620);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15586620');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c15584702\" rel=\"nofollow\">cheepers</a>: The worst of both worlds. The bureaucracy of the IRS with private lending and collections who seem to answer to no one. At one point they tried to claim I owed $12g on less than $5g left of loan balance. I have been trying to pay off my loan balance for almost 10 years but the stupidity has made it impossible, even with talking directly to the dept. of ED. Having funds taken out of my tax return has actually turned out to be easier than any other method. Don't even get me started on the collection agency that employs prison inmates.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15586620, 'bohemian')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->                    <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-15585638\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=807765\"><img        src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=807765\">nbs2</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15585638\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T18:31:49-05:00\">September 24, 2009  6:31 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15585638);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15585638');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p><p>@<a href=\"http://consumerist.com/5366898/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08#c15584702\" rel=\"nofollow\">cheepers</a>: My rant got lost.</p><br /><p>But, I \"owe\" them $4200 according to my credit report even though I paid them off several years ago. Every time I call, the person who can help me is not available.</p><br /><p>I have no monthly min reported on the report, so it hasn't been a hassle, but I know they'll come calling one of these days...</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15585638, 'nbs2')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-15586397\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=68098\"><img        src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=68098\">scootinger</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15586397\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T18:57:09-05:00\">September 24, 2009  6:57 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15586397);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15586397');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c15585638\" rel=\"nofollow\">nbs2</a>: I would stop trying to play nice with Sallie Mae, and go ahead and DISPUTE both the item on your credit report as well as the debt that they claim you owe. That's likely the only way that you will be able to have anyone do something about it. There are laws like the Fair Credit Reporting Act that serve to protect consumers from scummy lenders like this.</p><p><a href=\"http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/edu/pubs/consumer/credit/cre21.shtm\" rel=\"nofollow\">[www.ftc.gov]</a></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15586397, 'scootinger')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-15587703\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=807765\"><img        src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=807765\">nbs2</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15587703\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T19:44:32-05:00\">September 24, 2009  7:44 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15587703);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15587703');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p><p>@<a href=\"http://consumerist.com/5366898/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08#c15586397\" rel=\"nofollow\">scootinger</a>: You are right. If I was a better consumer, I would have done that long ago. I suppose it's a lot like the green fuzz in the back of my fridge in college. I don't know why it's there, but I know it shouldn't be - but a meaningful effort to clean it is more work than just ignoring it and hoping it disappears on its own. And just life that fuzz, it will eventually explode anyway, making a bigger mess. But for now...</p><br /><p>You're right.</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15587703, 'nbs2')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>     <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>     <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>     <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->                    <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-15584388\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=653976\"><img        src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=653976\">jc364</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15584388\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T17:51:56-05:00\">September 24, 2009  5:51 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15584388);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15584388');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c15582937\" rel=\"nofollow\">AngryK9</a>: I've heard similar comments before on this site, which worries me as a Sallie Mae borrower.  What should I be watching out for?</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15584388, 'jc364')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-15586639\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=1021770\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-1021770-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=1021770\">AngryK9</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15586639\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T19:05:52-05:00\">September 24, 2009  7:05 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15586639);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15586639');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p><p>@<a href=\"http://consumerist.com/5366898/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08#c15584388\" rel=\"nofollow\">jc364</a>: Well, you probably don't have anything to worry about yourself, but the only advice I can give you is never be late one single day on one single payment. They will rack up the late fees before you can blink and they don't hesitate one second to report your late status to the credit bureaus.</p><br /><p>To give you an example of what they have done/are doing to me (and this in no way reflects what they will/are doing to anyone else): If I were to have nearly $1000 in late fees with my $400 a month payment, and if I were to pay $800 in one month thinking I just covered two monthly payments, I'll discover quickly that my $800 actually gets applied to the late fee (leaving me almost $200 left on the late fee), that none of it went to my actual payment (which means I am now two payments behind), and that they have now added even more to my late fee. Within days I start getting phone calls at every single phone number they have on file for me, and they call no less than 3 times per day for each loan I am behind on. Someone co-signed on a loan for me and since I am behind on it, they have been calling the co-signer as many times per day as they call me.</p><br /><p>I have had them call my house 22 times in a single day because I was behind on two different loans. As it stands now, I have nearly $2000 in late fees built up on each of the loans and can't get caught up because every bit of money I send them is being applied to the late fees. And yes, I have all but begged them countless times to apply it to the payments so that they fees will quit multiplying, but they refuse to listen.</p><br /><p>(This is just one example from one person. You're better off researching it yourself since I am very bitter toward SMC and probably not very objective)</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15586639, 'AngryK9')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-15601812\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=653976\"><img        src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=653976\">jc364</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15601812\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-25T13:08:16-05:00\">September 25, 2009  1:08 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15601812);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15601812');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c15586639\" rel=\"nofollow\">AngryK9</a>: Thanks for the heads up!  It's pretty crappy that they can't work a deal with you so that you can get caught back up. Don't give up on trying to work out a solution, there has to be something that can be done in that situation.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15601812, 'jc364')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>     <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>     <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>    </div>","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-15582949\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=2352\"><img        src=\"/mt-static/support/assets_c/userpics/userpic-2352-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=2352\">Notsewfast</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15582949\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T17:07:35-05:00\">September 24, 2009  5:07 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15582949);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15582949');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>HAHA! Now to sign up for as many CD clubs as possible with no intention to pay for them! You'll all say I'm crazy, but soon you'll be begging me to borrow one of my 6 copies of 'Tubthumping'!</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15582949, 'Notsewfast')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->												<div class=\"num-replies\">6 replies</div>	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-15596125\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=248249\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-248249-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=248249\">PølάrβǽЯ</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15596125\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-25T02:00:03-05:00\">September 25, 2009  2:00 AM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15596125);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15596125');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c15582949\" rel=\"nofollow\">Notsewfast</a>: I'm going to have nightmares tonight. I'm going to wake up screaming, and it's gonna be all your fault!</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15596125, 'PølάrβǽЯ')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->                    <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-15583887\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=1223549\"><img        src=\"/mt-static/support/assets_c/userpics/userpic-1223549-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=1223549\">treimel</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15583887\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T17:36:32-05:00\">September 24, 2009  5:36 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15583887);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15583887');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p><p>@<a href=\"http://consumerist.com/5366898/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08#c15582949\" rel=\"nofollow\">Notsewfast</a>: <br />My \"friend\" signed me up for two of those--Ha-ha, it was years, years before they stopped bugging me. (They're all gone now, right?)</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15583887, 'treimel')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->                    <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-15583230\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">                <a href=\"\"><img src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"         width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>            </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\">sir_pantsalot    </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15583230\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T17:16:12-05:00\">September 24, 2009  5:16 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15583230);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15583230');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c15582949\" rel=\"nofollow\">Notsewfast</a>: OH NOW THAT IS JUST WONDERFUL! Here we are on a nice Thursday just trying to finish the week and then you put this song into our heads. Have you no shame?</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15583230, 'sir_pantsalot')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-15596036\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=17499\"><img        src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=17499\">drjayphd</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15596036\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-25T01:53:49-05:00\">September 25, 2009  1:53 AM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15596036);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15596036');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c15583230\" rel=\"nofollow\">sir_pantsalot</a>: Know what I recommend to fix this problem? A whiskey drink, a vodka drink, a lager drink and a cider drink.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15596036, 'drjayphd')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->                    <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-15583837\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=132151\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-132151-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    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href=\"http://consumerist.com/5366898/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08#c15583230\" rel=\"nofollow\">sir_pantsalot</a>: True, but I think another song choice would've sacraficed the joke.</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15583837, 'ExtraCelestial')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->                    <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-15583762\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a 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   </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c15583230\" rel=\"nofollow\">sir_pantsalot</a>: I GET KNOCKED DOWN, I GET BACK UP AGAIN!</p><p>*shoots self*</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15583762, 'lannister80')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-15584021\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=665956\"><img        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class=\"comment-content\">            <p><p>@<a href=\"http://consumerist.com/5366898/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08#c15583762\" rel=\"nofollow\">lannister80</a>: <br />Damn you. I was trying to think of what song that was... then I read the lyrics. Shoot.</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15584021, 'tbax929')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->                    <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-15583898\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=537475\"><img        src=\"/mt-static/support/assets_c/userpics/userpic-537475-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=537475\">pecan 3.14159265</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15583898\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T17:36:53-05:00\">September 24, 2009  5:36 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15583898);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15583898');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p><p>@<a href=\"http://consumerist.com/5366898/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08#c15583762\" rel=\"nofollow\">lannister80</a>: *cries* It won't leave my head space! Make it go away! Someone name another annoying one hit wonder!</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15583898, 'pecan 3.14159265')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-15584278\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=580579\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-580579-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=580579\">h3llc4t, breaker of office dress codes</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15584278\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T17:48:36-05:00\">September 24, 2009  5:48 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15584278);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15584278');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c15583898\" rel=\"nofollow\">pecan 3.14159265</a>:</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" 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       </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15585767\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T18:35:38-05:00\">September 24, 2009  6:35 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15585767);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15585767');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c15584312\" rel=\"nofollow\">h3llc4t has a slow work day</a>: <br /><a></a></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15585767, 'MostlyHarmless')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->   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class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=436259\">MostlyHarmless</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15584229\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T17:47:02-05:00\">September 24, 2009  5:47 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15584229);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15584229');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c15583898\" rel=\"nofollow\">pecan 3.14159265</a>: Never gonna give you up!!!!<br /><a></a></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div 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those annoying earwhigs. However, the cartoon that comes with it is NSFW.</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15583999, 'katia802')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>     <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>     <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>     <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>    </div>","","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-15583723\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=1340486\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-1340486-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=1340486\">holytrainwreck</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15583723\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T17:31:06-05:00\">September 24, 2009  5:31 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15583723);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15583723');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p><p>\"I get knocked down...and I get up again...\"</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15583723, 'holytrainwreck')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->		    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->    </div>","","","","","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-15583946\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=498599\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-498599-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=498599\">Jack T Ripper</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15583946\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T17:38:12-05:00\">September 24, 2009  5:38 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15583946);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15583946');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>credit scores are all based on probability.  What is the probability that you will default on a loan.  Nobody can honestly think that creditors aren't going to care that the probability that you will default on a loan under $100 is 80%.  If you are defaulting on loans less than $100, then the probability is that you are defaulting on loans greater than $100.  Creditors aren't going to use a model that doesn't calculate this large percentage of individuals who don't pay their cell phone bills and such.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15583946, 'Jack T Ripper')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->										<div class=\"num-replies\">4 replies</div>	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-15593501\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=110622\"><img        src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=110622\">samurailynn</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15593501\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T23:26:38-05:00\">September 24, 2009 11:26 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15593501);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15593501');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c15583946\" rel=\"nofollow\">Jack T Ripper</a>: About 10 years ago Blockbuster had a habit of saying that someone never returned a movie, never trying to contact that person, then selling a debt of around $60 to a collections agency to collect on. It happened to my husband, and we got the collections agency to back down and made sure it didn't go on his credit report. However, I'm sure a lot of people just ignored it because it was trivial. There were probably also a lot of people who paid up just because it was trivial. Either way, companies win, consumers lose. At least little nuisances like this don't matter so much anymore.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15593501, 'samurailynn')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->                    <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-15584139\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=1223549\"><img        src=\"/mt-static/support/assets_c/userpics/userpic-1223549-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=1223549\">treimel</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15584139\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T17:44:08-05:00\">September 24, 2009  5:44 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15584139);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15584139');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p><p>@<a href=\"http://consumerist.com/5366898/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08#c15583946\" rel=\"nofollow\">Jack T Ripper</a>: <br />I'm going to have to disagree with you there--first off, these folks are in the business of providing creditors the predictive models they demand. I'm quite sure that a number of PhD mathemeticians, actuaries, etc. came up with this model. It makes sense, too, a lot of these small debts have no predictive value whatsoever--think things like forgotten library fines, parking tickets (where people have moved; there really aren't very many \"loans\" that total two digits. Revolving credit balance, sure, but I take it a cc charge-off is unchanged here.<br />I think you hit the nail on the head when you said \" If you are defaulting on loans less than $100, then the probability is that you are defaulting on loans greater than $100.\" That's the whole point--the real deadbeats will show up through the real loans.</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15584139, 'treimel')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-15586480\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a 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</div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c15584139\" rel=\"nofollow\">treimel</a>: I'm sure that a lot of PhD's came up with some way to justify what the banks were doing with subprime loans/derivatives/etc, too...but look at what happened there.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15586480, 'scootinger')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-15588732\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a 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href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=665956\">tbax929</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15584036\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T17:40:53-05:00\">September 24, 2009  5:40 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15584036);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15584036');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p><p>@<a href=\"http://consumerist.com/5366898/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08#c15583946\" rel=\"nofollow\">Jack T Ripper</a>: <br />I wish my cell bill were under $100!</p></p>        </div>	<div 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href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15584029\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T17:40:40-05:00\">September 24, 2009  5:40 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15584029);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15584029');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>While I can agree they shouldn't count minuscule debts, at some point they should count for something if the accumulated total of debts under $100 surpasses a certain value.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15584029, 'Kogenta')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if 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It's not like these firms hew closely to the law.</p><br /><p>Because of what I've read about how they behave, I actually started about 5 years ago keeping documentation for EVERYTHING where someone claimed I owed them money. It's a lot of crap, but I plan to keep it forever. I hate it, but I feel like it's the only way to protect myself.</p><br /><p>for instance, several years ago my state's tolling authority sent me a bogus ticket because a toll station somehow missed my transponder. I called and got it taken care of, but it wouldn't surprise me if 20 years from now when the state's having fiscal another crisis if a collector calls about it. So I've got the documentation where they admitted it was a mistake. In the past few years, I've read cases of debt collectors coming after allegedly unpaid fines 15 years later. It's crazy.</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15585965, 'tdatl')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->                    <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-15584272\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=25946\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-25946-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=25946\">Brontide</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15584272\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T17:48:24-05:00\">September 24, 2009  5:48 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15584272);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15584272');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c15584029\" rel=\"nofollow\">Kogenta</a>: You are missing the other qualifier \"old\".  I'm betting that $100 debts fall off the score in 12-24 months.  It would still matter if you defaulted on your CD club, but if you defaulted on it 2 years ago that is no longer a good indicator of credit risk.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15584272, 'Brontide')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-15584370\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=498599\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-498599-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=498599\">Jack T Ripper</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15584370\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T17:51:24-05:00\">September 24, 2009  5:51 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15584370);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15584370');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c15584272\" rel=\"nofollow\">snowmoon</a>: Even $25 debts stay on for the seven years they are allowed to.  The credit bureaus don't actively delete items they don't feel are important.  Unless the creditor requests they be removed, or unless the consumer disputes the item and the creditor doesn't respond or agrees, then the item will remain for the entire period it is allowed.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15584370, 'Jack T Ripper')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-15585239\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=25946\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-25946-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=25946\">Brontide</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15585239\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T18:18:23-05:00\">September 24, 2009  6:18 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15585239);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15585239');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c15584370\" rel=\"nofollow\">Jack T Ripper</a>: I never said they fall off the report, but old, small, debts should fall off the score since they have little or no bearing on current credit worthiness.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15585239, 'Brontide')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>     <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>     <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->                    <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-15584197\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=498599\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-498599-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=498599\">Jack T Ripper</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15584197\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T17:45:57-05:00\">September 24, 2009  5:45 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15584197);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15584197');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c15584029\" rel=\"nofollow\">Kogenta</a>: Now THAT I can absolutely agree with.  Currently it is already like that since a large part of your score is based on your debt to credit ratio.  I think it should stay that way.  All debt should be calculated into your score and not just the debt over $100.  Who came up with that magic number anyway?  What happens when $100 only buys you a couple gallons of gasoline and a slurpee?  It is a mistake to set a number that will have to change as the dollar changes.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15584197, 'Jack T Ripper')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>    </div>","","","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-15584194\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=580579\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-580579-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=580579\">h3llc4t, breaker of office dress codes</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15584194\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T17:45:55-05:00\">September 24, 2009  5:45 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15584194);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15584194');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>Woooo! So long, $25 library late fee! (Which I paid because I felt bad and didn't know about it until it went into collections...but still! Wooo!)</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15584194, 'h3llc4t, breaker of office dress codes')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->							<div class=\"num-replies\">1 replies</div>	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-15585732\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=807765\"><img        src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=807765\">nbs2</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15585732\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T18:34:28-05:00\">September 24, 2009  6:34 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15585732);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15585732');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p><p>@<a href=\"http://consumerist.com/5366898/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08#c15584194\" rel=\"nofollow\">h3llc4t has a slow work day</a>: 8 years too late for me. When I was in college I got rejected for a credit card because I had a $2 debt to the hospital that I didn't know I had (thank you complicated health insurance procedures). It had been in collections for about 2 years and cost me $30 to pay beacuse of the over-the-phone-convenience-fee.</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15585732, 'nbs2')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>    </div>","","","","","","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-15584291\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=6536\"><img        src=\"/mt-static/support/assets_c/userpics/userpic-6536-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=6536\">Rectilinear Propagation</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15584291\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T17:49:07-05:00\">September 24, 2009  5:49 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15584291);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15584291');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>The return of the most awesome Consumerist image ever.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15584291, 'Rectilinear Propagation')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->		    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->    </div>","","","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-15584383\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=436259\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-436259-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=436259\">MostlyHarmless</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15584383\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T17:51:50-05:00\">September 24, 2009  5:51 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15584383);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15584383');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>300: TONIGHT WE DINE IN HELL!!!</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15584383, 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href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15598299\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-25T04:08:27-05:00\">September 25, 2009  4:08 AM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15598299);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15598299');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c15584383\" rel=\"nofollow\">MostlyHarmless</a>: <br />You're going to need this first.</p><p><a href=\"http://www.lunchboxes.com/300.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">[www.lunchboxes.com]</a></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15598299, 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title=\"2009-09-24T20:52:03-05:00\">September 24, 2009  8:52 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15589691);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15589691');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c15584383\" rel=\"nofollow\">MostlyHarmless</a>: THIS...IS... (YOUR) FICO!</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15589691, 'G.O.B.: Come on!')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>    </div>","","","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-15584761\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=1201340\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-1201340-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=1201340\">zacox</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15584761\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T18:03:04-05:00\">September 24, 2009  6:03 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15584761);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15584761');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>The only thing this will do is push up the value of collectible accounts over $100. Think about it. If you're being dunned for $85 right now and the collector knows you don't care because it's under $100, what's to stop them from tacking on an additional fee bringing the total to over $100?</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15584761, 'zacox')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->									<div class=\"num-replies\">3 replies</div>	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-15585265\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=264335\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-264335-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=264335\">INsano</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15585265\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T18:19:19-05:00\">September 24, 2009  6:19 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15585265);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15585265');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c15584761\" rel=\"nofollow\">zacox</a>: Contracts and laws?</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15585265, 'INsano')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-15585356\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=1201340\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-1201340-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=1201340\">zacox</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15585356\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T18:22:15-05:00\">September 24, 2009  6:22 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15585356);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15585356');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c15585265\" rel=\"nofollow\">INsano</a>: Most contracts you sign, and most state laws permit original creditors leeway in adding fees and costs of collection onto the original debt. For example: on a debt of $250, AT&amp;T Wireless will add usually around $40 for \"collection costs\", a fee that you agreed to when you signed the initial contract.</p><p>Thing is, once the original creditor adds the fee, the original debt is now the higher amount, so that higher amount is submitted to the collection agency, and the collection agency then duns you for that higher amount.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15585356, 'zacox')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>     <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->                    <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-15585219\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=329134\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-329134-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=329134\">Jakuub</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15585219\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T18:17:49-05:00\">September 24, 2009  6:17 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15585219);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15585219');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c15584761\" rel=\"nofollow\">zacox</a>: \"Original debt\" - not \"Debt plus 1000's of dollars in fees\".  I worked collections, briefly, and once had to try to collect $500+ on what was originally a debt of $1.20.  Didn't work there a whole lot longer.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15585219, 'Jakuub')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>    </div>","","","","","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-15585385\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=1340225\"><img        src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=1340225\">kyse</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15585385\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T18:23:16-05:00\">September 24, 2009  6:23 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15585385);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15585385');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p><p>\"keeping old credit cards open\"... That is so anti-capitalitic, and I can't believe it's still allowed. That's like for example having a sysetm in place for internet providers. If you switch providers because Comcast sucks, Verizon might not take you because you didn't keep your old account with Comcast. While this might not mean much for some credit cards, for the ones that charge annual fee's you've got a rough decision to make if your credit score is important to you. I feel like I'm being hearded like a sheep into acting a certain way every time I see that attribute of credit scores.</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15585385, 'kyse')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->		    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->    </div>","","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-15585644\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">                <a href=\"\"><img src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"         width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>            </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\">bloggerX    </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15585644\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T18:31:51-05:00\">September 24, 2009  6:31 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15585644);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15585644');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p><p>That image is pure awesome-sauce!</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15585644, 'bloggerX')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->		    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->    </div>","","","","","","","","","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-15587055\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=738213\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-738213-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=738213\">JGKojak</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15587055\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T19:20:24-05:00\">September 24, 2009  7:20 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15587055);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15587055');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p><p>The FICO system is a rip-off developed to enslave people into a credit-based lifestyle.</p><br /><p>You know how you should be rewarded with a perfect FICO score? Having no credit. Or it should give you a 9999 which means they are REQUIRED to allow you to access a conventional mortgage/car financing process and be nice about it.</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15587055, 'JGKojak')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->								<div class=\"num-replies\">2 replies</div>	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-15598314\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=365047\"><img        src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=365047\">Powerlurker</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15598314\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-25T04:09:59-05:00\">September 25, 2009  4:09 AM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15598314);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15598314');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c15587055\" rel=\"nofollow\">JGKojak</a>:</p><p>The FICO system seems to serve the needs of its customers quite well (Hint: you aren't their customer).  If they felt it had poor predictive value, they wouldn't be using it.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15598314, 'Powerlurker')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->                    <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-15589656\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=140241\"><img        src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=140241\">XTC46</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15589656\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T20:51:04-05:00\">September 24, 2009  8:51 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15589656);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15589656');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p><p>@<a href=\"#c15587055\" rel=\"nofollow\">JGKojak</a>: If you have a high FICO score..very few banks will deny you a loan assuming all else is good (like you have a stable income that can pay back the loan)</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15589656, 'XTC46')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>    </div>","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-15587231\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=406173\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-406173-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" 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who have filed for bankruptcy and have the worst credit reports imaginable and their scores are in the low 500s.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15587231, 'twophrasebark')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->											<div class=\"num-replies\">5 replies</div>	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-15592699\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=185880\"><img        src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=185880\">FDCPAGuy</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15592699\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T22:48:35-05:00\">September 24, 2009 10:48 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15592699);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15592699');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c15587231\" rel=\"nofollow\">twophrasebark</a>: <br />I've seen them sub 500. Saw a sub 480 today and remember seeing some around 400 a few times.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15592699, 'FDCPAGuy')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-15619998\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=406173\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-406173-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=406173\">twophrasebark</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15619998\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-26T00:48:00-05:00\">September 26, 2009 12:48 AM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15619998);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15619998');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c15592699\" rel=\"nofollow\">FDCPAGuy</a>:</p><p>Yeah, I'd like to know, too...</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15619998, 'twophrasebark')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->                    <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-15601757\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=1223549\"><img        src=\"/mt-static/support/assets_c/userpics/userpic-1223549-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=1223549\">treimel</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15601757\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-25T13:03:16-05:00\">September 25, 2009  1:03 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15601757);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15601757');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p><p>@<a href=\"http://consumerist.com/5366898/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08#c15592699\" rel=\"nofollow\">FDCPAGuy</a>:</p><br /><p>In all honesty, what do you have to do to get those low scores? I know some real deadbeats: multiple charge-offs, a judgment. Still in low 500s.</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15601757, 'treimel')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>     <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->                    <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-15589633\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=185261\"><img        src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=185261\">ShortBus</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15589633\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T20:50:33-05:00\">September 24, 2009  8:50 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15589633);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15589633');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c15587231\" rel=\"nofollow\">twophrasebark</a>: I've heard of scores as low as 450-ish before.  But you're right, &lt;500 is pretty rare.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15589633, 'ShortBus')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->                    <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-15588766\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=1223549\"><img        src=\"/mt-static/support/assets_c/userpics/userpic-1223549-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=1223549\">treimel</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15588766\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T20:21:17-05:00\">September 24, 2009  8:21 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15588766);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15588766');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p><p>@<a href=\"http://consumerist.com/5366898/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08#c15587231\" rel=\"nofollow\">twophrasebark</a>:</p><br /><p>Yeah, they talk about these sub-500 scores, but I've never heard of anyone who's encountered one.</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15588766, 'treimel')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>    </div>","","","","","","","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-15589946\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=78160\"><img        src=\"/mt-static/support/assets_c/userpics/userpic-78160-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=78160\">Snarkysnake</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15589946\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-24T20:59:55-05:00\">September 24, 2009  8:59 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15589946);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15589946');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>\"The FICO system is a rip-off developed to enslave people into a credit-based lifestyle.\"</p><p>'Ol JG here may be on to something.(or on something). The fact is ,despite having good credit and being responsible ,lots of people have seen their credit scores lowered because the very same card issuers that were BEGGING them to take a card in the last few years are now closing their accounts and/or slashing their credit (balance chasing)and whacking a cool 40- 100 points off their score. It just seems to me that we are playing in a crooked casino here and no amount of tinkering with the formula will change that fact.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15589946, 'Snarkysnake')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->		    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->    </div>","","","","","","","","","","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-15605766\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=219879\"><img        src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=219879\">DraconWolfX</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15605766\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-25T15:44:02-05:00\">September 25, 2009  3:44 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15605766);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15605766');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p><p>I hope this is true. I have an unpaid phone bill that I disputed with Verizon forever. When I canceled service they billed me for an extra month and then absolutely refused to admit that they did so. I triple checked the dates and DEFINITELY got billed for the extra month. I've refused to pay the bill out of principle at the expense of having a single black mark on my credit score. Why should I have to pay something to a company when I didn't owe them anything in the first place??</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15605766, 'DraconWolfX')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->							<div class=\"num-replies\">1 replies</div>	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-15621363\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=357022\"><img        src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=357022\">wcnghj</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2009/09/old-debts-under-100-dont-matter-under-fico-08.html#comment-15621363\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2009-09-26T02:49:26-05:00\">September 26, 2009  2:49 AM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(15621363);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=15621363');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c15605766\" rel=\"nofollow\">DraconWolfX</a>: Have you reported Verizon to the BBB?</p><p>They tend to act upon those complaints.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(15621363, 'wcnghj')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>    </div>","","");


