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    <published>2009-08-20T03:00:56Z</published>
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    <title>Share Your Car Battery Disasters With Consumer Reports</title>
    <summary>--&gt;Our recent Zipcar electrical failure trilogy reminded us of a request from Consumer Reports Cars last week. For the November issue, they&apos;re looking for your stories of car battery failure, epic and otherwise. Do you have one to share?</summary>
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      <name>Laura Northrup</name>
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<p><!--<img src="http://consumerist.com/images/31/2009/08/car_battery.jpg" class="left image340" width="340" />-->Our recent <a href="http://consumerist.com/5341036">Zipcar electrical failure trilogy</a> reminded us of <a href="http://blogs.consumerreports.org/cars/2009/08/car-battery-stories-wanted-has-your-car-battery-died-.html?EXTKEY=I91ECON&CMP=OTC-ConsumeristLinks">a request from Consumer Reports Cars</a> last week. For the November issue, they're looking for your stories of car battery failure, epic and otherwise. Do you have one to share?</p>
<p>They're particularly looking for stories about battery failures in cold weather, but any stories you have to share would be useful. Post them here, <a href="http://blogs.consumerreports.org/cars/2009/08/car-battery-stories-wanted-has-your-car-battery-died-.html?EXTKEY=I91ECON&CMP=OTC-ConsumeristLinks">or there</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.consumerreports.org/cars/2009/08/car-battery-stories-wanted-has-your-car-battery-died-.html?EXTKEY=I91ECON&CMP=OTC-ConsumeristLinks">Stories wanted: Has your car battery died on a dark and stormy night?</a></p>
<p>(Photo: <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/andyarmstrong/190078748/">AndyArmstrong</a>)</p>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14909871</id>
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    <title>Comment from RChris173 on 2009-08-21</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I was out geocaching around midnight, parked the car, went and found the cache.  As I went back in my car, the car made little noises of anguish.  I knew it had to be the battery.  Was able to have someone jumpstart it and make it home, but it felt as if it was going to give out again.  New battery was placed in it, all good. :D</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-21T20:25:44Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14906326</id>
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    <title>Comment from Gragorin on 2009-08-21</title>
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        <name>Gragorin</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>So, last summer we had a heat wave for a few days here in the bay area.  I had a doctor's appointment at 2pm and arrived there and parked in the open lot with no problems from traffic or my car but little did I know what was going to happen.  As I'm walking back to my car after my appointment I'm approached by a nice young blonde who inquires as to if I have any jumper cables to start her car.   I unfortunately didn't and couldn't really help her but I do ask why she needs them.   She tells me that her battery is just dead and her car won't start now.  I make sure she has somebody to call and get help before walking back to my car.  I get in and everything is working fine, insert the key, watch all the lights come on and the stereo power up before I turn the key to start the car and..... POW!!  I feel a large thud in my chest, there's a large pop from under the hood and a large quantity of smoke/something is curling out from under the hood.  I pop the hood and all of the little covers on the top of my battery are blown completely off and strewn about the engine compartment.  My battery literally offed itself as it just couldn't take the heat any more.  After the smoke cleared, the blonde walked up and told that's exactly what her battery did!  So, two cars, two people and two suicidal batteries in one short afternoon.</p>
<p>Being single, and poor I couldn't afford to call a tow truck so I looked up the nearest auto parts store and I proceeded to walk the nearly one mile in the heat with the blonde in tow to purchase new batteries for our vehicles.  Let me tell you, that heat really sucked but not as bad as carrying that battery back with my bare hands in the heat back to my car.  The blonde chose to wait at the parts for her husband but I had to get to work and couldn't wait.  I had blisters for a few days after that one..</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-21T17:40:18Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14898100</id>
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    <title>Comment from thefranchise2 on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c14875595" rel="nofollow">NobleCrayfish</a>: I had the original battery in my 1999 Escort until last summer, and it was still running even after leaving my lights on and it being completely dead twice.  I figured it was finally time to replace it before another cold winter.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-21T04:11:31Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from cyberbird168 on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>My car battery just die 2 days ago. I have a Mazda 6s 2007 brough it in 2007 Aug. Since then I love that car. Fun to drive until 2 days ago. Got up in the morning get in to the car and turn the key. Next thing you know is it won't start. Get my multimeter out and check the battery and found "11.58V"... Lovely... Call AAA, got it jump start and ran to a Auto store and buy a new battery for $82.99 . Install it by myself and there you go. My car back up and runing. 1 minute later found out the auto windows not working. Check out owner manual and have found I need to reset the windows as well. Thank god at least I don't have to go back to dealership.</p></p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T22:50:03Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14890747</id>
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    <title>Comment from AnthonyC on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c14882625" rel="nofollow">matthines</a>:</p>
<p>After accounting for the differences in efficiency between power plants &amp; car engines, plus accounting for grid losses, an all-coal-fired-electric car has ~ the same carbon emissions per mile as a gas-powered prius.</p>
<p>In the US, coal and natural gas account for ~70% of all electricity. So, an electric car already has carbon emissions about 35% lower than a gas powered one. Plus, it automatically gets cleaner as the our energy mix changes. Also, it is easier to handle other emissions- particulates, sulfur, and so on- at centralized, stationary power plants than in millions of cars.</p>
<p>So yes, comparatively speaking, it is very environmentally friendly.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T22:49:00Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14890223</id>
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    <title>Comment from Pixel on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <name>Pixel</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c14887988" rel="nofollow">Oranges w/ Cheese - now with 50% more kitty!</a>: Completely and totally wrong. The only thing a car needs the battery for is to start it. Once the car is running the Alternator is supplying all the voltage the car needs and the battery can be disconnected without affecting its ability to run[1].</p>
<p>Take it from the guy who's repaired and restored lots of cars, and has removed the battery from running cars and seen them keep running.</p>
<p>[1]ok, so the battery does even out the voltage load/excess within the system so without it the alternator can overload circuits and cause premature failures, but not immediately.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T22:30:05Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Saltillopunk on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I was an ex-pat and would return to the states for meetings and the like.  One winter I jumped into my Grand Cherokee and it wouldn't start.  Got the jumper cables out but found that it wouldn't stay started.  The idle control motor defaulted a closed state and was choking the air out.  The problem was the positioning of the wiring harness exposed it to the elements/salt water leading to corrosion of the insulating plastic and shorting of the bare wires.  By not driving the vehicle regularly, the water and salt and gunk did not get evaporated off by the engine heat.</p>
<p>Adding insult to injury, the replacement battery they sold me turned out to be a bum unit and would not hold a charge.  This led to fun and games of jumping the vehicle every time I came home for business.  Thankfully  the bum unit was under warranty and I got the dealer to switch it out.  No problems since.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T22:14:47Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14889569</id>
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    <title>Comment from iDevin on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c14882625" rel="nofollow">matthines</a>: I don't power my house from coal power, what makes you think I would run my car from it.  Coal power does not make up most of the grid here in California, and it's an even lower percentage of power in my home province of British Columbia where any new coal plants are required to be completely zero-emissions (meaning none are likely to be built in the near future).  Regardless of what the power mix is in California (10% renewable, 32% coal, 24% large hydro, 31% natural gas, 3% nuclear as of 2007) I purchase only renewable energy from the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power (for roughly $4-6 more per month) and my energy content is 100% renewable (18% biomass/waste, &lt;1% geothermal, 82% small hydro, &lt;1% solar, &lt;1% wind as of 2007 with 25% small hydro and 75% wind intended for 2009).</p>
<p>But let's assume for a moment that you want to drive your electric vehicle in West Virginia where most of their electricity is generated from coal.  You can still expect a 60% lower carbon impact by driving your coal-powered EV than by operating a petrol-powered vehicle.  Don't forget that utility grade energy production versus consumer grade energy production is inherently more efficient since the power utilities have more to lose by running a poorly maintained and thus inefficient generator.  The consumer vehicle is not going to be nearly as well maintained as the utility's coal-fired generator.  And since most of the world is moving towards renewables instead of away from them these figures will improve over time with the adoption of plug in vehicles.  (Sources:  <a href="http://green.autoblog.com/2009/07/24/study-even-with-electricity-from-coal-electric-vehilces-beat-g/" rel="nofollow">[green.autoblog.com]</a> and <a href="http://my.epri.com/portal/server.pt?open=512&amp;objID=243&amp;&amp;PageID=223132&amp;mode=2&amp;in_hi_userid=2&amp;cached=true" rel="nofollow">[my.epri.com]</a> )</p>
<p>The thing about a plug-in electric vehicle is that it is fuel-neutral.  It doesn't care if you put coal or solar in it.  Which is what makes this an ideal solution for the future as our power grids move towards cleaner energy sources.  You probably wouldn't buy a computer that could only run software from one vendor (let's say Microsoft for example) so would you buy a car that can only run one source of fuel (petroleum) if you had another choice?</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T22:08:21Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from asplodzor on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c14880618" rel="nofollow">jwissick</a>: FYI, Costco has Optima Yellow Tops for around $130. I'm planning on getting one to support a car PC down the line.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T21:45:50Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Oranges w/ Cheese on the move on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c14882913" rel="nofollow">Pixel</a>: That's nearly impossible, because a car cannot run without a battery to create the sparks. The car would've stalled immediately.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T21:15:22Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Oranges w/ Cheese on the move on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c14875833" rel="nofollow">zacox</a>: Had the same problems on a trip to orlando with my parents. See my comment further down. We were loaded up with all sorts of electrics though so ours only lasted an hour!</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T21:07:59Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from joshua70448 on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c14876169" rel="nofollow">xredgambit</a>: Yeah, my car's alternator kicked the bucket a couple of months ago, too.  I was luckier, though, because it was easy to spot when the car died 5 minutes after being jumped by a tow truck.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T21:03:27Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from joshua70448 on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>My wife's car's battery died while sitting at the house.  We were getting ready to drive it to the repair shop to have a check engine light looked at (it had been on since we bought it a year ago) and it turns out the battery was shot as well.  We were able to jump her car with mine, though, so it worked out well.</p>
<p>I wasn't so lucky last year after I got t-boned by an idiot college student.  He smashed my driver-side doors so badly that they wouldn't open (doors or windows).  However, I soon learned that the smashed doors weren't hitting the "door closed" triggers, causing the interior light to stay on all night long and draining the battery.  I had to convince the garage assistants to let me through the gate with my then-fiance's car to jump it, and it took a good half-hour.  All that just so I could drive it out to meet the other guy's insurance adjuster to have the damage inspected.  Fun times.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T21:01:45Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Oranges w/ Cheese on the move on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c14887404" rel="nofollow">Oranges w/ Cheese - now with 50% more kitty!</a>: Oh and worst experience was a '92 Dodge Spirit.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T20:55:42Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Oranges w/ Cheese on the move on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>2nd Worst Battery / Alternator experience ever (which taught me about my 1st worse experience):</p>
<p>My parents and I are driving my mom's '97 Pontiac Grand Am SE to Orlando from Fort Walton Beach, FL for my College Orientation. We're packed for a weekend of travel. The drive itself is about 7 hours at the speed limit. We had just stopped at Lake City to gas up and have lunch. About an hour south of Lake City (around Leesburg, FL) the car starts acting weird, the cruise control stops working and the radio keeps cutting out. Finally all the lights on the dash flash on and I have to pull over into a weigh station. We call roadside assistance and spend 3 hours waiting for Enterprise rent-a-car at the local Pontiac Dealership. We finally get to Orlando though...</p>
<p>1st worst Battery / Alternator experience:</p>
<p>Because of this previous experience, I knew how to diagnose battery / alternator problems. In 2005 I was driving home to Fort Walton from Orlando. About 45 minutes outside of Gainesville my check engine light flips on. About 5 minutes later (it was drizzling at the time) I notice the dash lights flickering on, the wipers are going slower and slower, and the voltage meter on the dash keeps going lower. So I pull over - under about 30mph it seems like the alternator kicks back in and everything is fine (but I've still got 5 hours of 70mph driving ahead of me). I pull into a service station and they hook up a tester and say "Your alternator is working fine, we've got 12v coming out of it." Exasperated I continue on and reach Gainesville. Again, the car functions fine at sub 30mph speeds and when restarted at an AutoZone, their tester says the same thing and the guy sends me on my way. By this point, my mom is on her way to join me in Tallahassee. I turn off EVERYTHING I can, no wipers, no lights, no AC, no radio and manage to make it to Tallahassee. But by now it is dark. So I end up driving the 3 hours from Tallahassee to home on the interstate with no headlights, no wipers, basically just following my mom's tail lights. I have no idea how we didn't get pulled over.</p>
<p>Ended up being a faulty alternator and voltage regulator.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T20:54:53Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from econobiker on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>@<a href="http://consumerist.com/5341240/share-your-car-battery-disasters-with-consumer-reports#c14884620" rel="nofollow">DoubleEcho</a>: Battery heater pad or even engine block heater might help?</p><br />
<p>I remember having to jump off my old Dodge Omni in -5°F weather with my fathers pickup. Something about having 10-40 weight oil.</p><br />
<p>Sad thing was that we think it killed some of the frozen gear teeth on the engine side. It gradually got a place where the starter wouldn't engage- only spin freely- until you manually cranked the engine past that section with a rachet and long extension on the bolt head of the belt pulley at the end of the crankshaft...</p></p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T20:41:00Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from el_smurfo on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>My 89 Wrangler battery lasted 10 years.  Twice I woke to find it dead, only to realize it was completely dry...filled it up with water and it started right up again.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T20:28:26Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14886429</id>
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    <title>Comment from ionerox on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>One dark very cold January night in the mid-90's when I was 17, I spent the evening out dancing at First Ave in Minneapolis with friends and then headed back home to Western Wisconsin.</p><br />
<p>Most of the way home, the alternator died on my 1980 Pontiac LeMans Safari station wagon. The hazards didn't work (dead battery)and the only thing on the car that would turn on was the dome light. I was not dressed for winter weather, had no cell phone, and there wasn't anything besides fields for a few miles in either direction.</p><br />
<p>45 minutes later, a very nice state trooper stopped to check the car- only because I had turned on the dome light. He must have felt pretty sorry for me, because he gave me a blanket and drove me home to Wisconsin.</p></p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T20:19:46Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14885529</id>
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    <title>Comment from Froggmann on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This thread may be wort it for you guys to read up. Optima Battery SUCKS 2.0: <a href="http://www.fullsizebronco.com/forum/showthread.php?t=155130" rel="nofollow">[www.fullsizebronco.com]</a></p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T19:49:12Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from joeblevins on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>@<a href="#c14885054" rel="nofollow">joeblevins</a>:</p><br />
<p>Want to add that my insurance Allstate was great and helpful. Walmart was NOT to blame. It was 100% me being stupid. Even my local shop was great.</p></p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T19:33:47Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from joeblevins on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>Last month my battery died in my 2007 Jeep Wrangler, it has 60k miles so it isn't outragous. Well, it had died in a dark parking lot under a tree at 9pm. I figured, hey, I am a smart guy. So I took a trip to Walmart and bought the battery that matched mine. I got back to my car and started to install it. During this time I have 2 kids screaming (Now 10:30pm and they sleep around 9pm) and my wife holding a flashlight like a conductors baton. I put the battery in and hooked up the terminals... Backwards. That Jeep starting screaming and whistling at me. Fire and sparks are flying. The final bill was about 1500 bucks. The battery harness completely melted and it fried my Air Conditioning. Fortunatly it didn't fry the computer. I found out later that it killed my trailer brake controller too. Lesson learned - ALWAYS double check terminals. They were on the battery opposite of the physical configuration of my OEM battery but were marked correctly.</p></p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T19:32:18Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from shepd on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c14877769" rel="nofollow">nstonep</a>:</p>
<p>Good idea!  If you don't want to feel the music, at least feel the battery!</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T19:19:59Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from shepd on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c14875985" rel="nofollow">chrisexv6</a>:</p>
<p>For less than $85 (when they are on a good sale, got mine for $50), you can purchase an OBD2 reader that will tell you the codes.  If you're lucky, the manual that came with it will help you decipher them.  The readers usually also have a reset button.</p>
<p>Don't pay diagnostic fees at a garage unless they are actually representative of the cost.  It takes less than 5 minutes, so if the shop time is $100/hr, that's about $15 - $20 (We'll assume the [large amount] extra is to pay for the better OBD2 reader, because the dealer shouldn't be buying the cheap-ass $50 consumer grade one).</p>
<p>I got my reader because there's an emissions sensor that leaves the service engine soon light on permanently during the summer.  The car passes government emissions tests, so I'm just checking it  (and, futilely, erasing it for the 5 minutes of good it does) occasionally to see if a new code that I actually need to worry about pops up.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T19:17:16Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14884620</id>
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    <title>Comment from DoubleEcho on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>I found out the hard way last winter that a 2003 Mazda Protege's stock battery will not start the car in minus 15 degree temperatures. The car only had 27,000 on the odometer at the time too. Everything about that car I love, except for the stock battery (and stock tires, worthless in the winter).</p><br />
<p>Now, my wife's shitty '98 Mercury Mystique? That started right up every day, no matter the temp, and her battery looks like it's older than dirt.</p></p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T19:16:29Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from HogwartsAlum on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Last year or the year before, we had a rash of dead batteries here at work during a heat wave.  I didn't know that extremely hot weather would kill your battery too, until it happened to me.</p>
<p>Fortunately, one of my coworkers took pity on me and went and got me a battery and put it in on his lunch hour.  He's a sweetie.  He'll never admit it, but he is.  :)</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T19:09:54Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from shepd on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c14882412" rel="nofollow">nullrout</a>:</p>
<p>If you're lucky and it isn't a sealed battery, you can get a hydrometer and check for yourself the health of the battery (instructions are likely to be printed on it; you can build your own easily but they aren't expensive enough to make it worth it).  Some sealed batteries will have a window and instructions beside it so you can still check (although how much you can trust those, well, that's up to you).</p>
<p>Also, check it with a voltmeter while starting the car (This will be easier with an analog meter and two people).  The battery should read at least 9.6 volts.  With the car off the voltage should be at least 11 volts for a healthy battery.  With the car running, the voltage will be much higher, perhaps around 13 or 14 volts if your alternator is healthy (if it doesn't read any higher than the non-running voltage, your alternator is bad).</p>
<p>If your battery is passes all these, you're winner!</p>
<p>And if the battery isn't sealed, don't forget to top it up with <b>distilled</b> water...</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T19:08:17Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from HogwartsAlum on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c14879873" rel="nofollow">Wombatish</a>: That's what I drive, only it's a 93.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T19:06:54Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14884278</id>
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    <title>Comment from econobiker on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>Dodge Neon battery that freaked out an AutoZone worker and probably spawned its own urban legend:</p><br />
<p>Background: Around about 1999 I had to take my Dodge Neon back to the dealer who had to repair some bad body work they had done -5- years prior (a complete other story). Got a loaner 1999 model Neon from the dealer to drive around for the week. Well the loaner's battery conks out so I buy a new battery for it figuring that my '95s battery will eventually go, drive around for the next couple days, then pull the new battery out when I return the loaner to get my '95. I put this "new" battery on a maintenance charger in series with about two or three motorcycle batteries and keep the fluid topped off. I keep this maintenance charger on all the time and the car battery actually helps the motorcycle batteries as it serves as a sink for excess voltage. The charger and batteries live in my homes basement and later apartment's extra room over the years.</p><br />
<p>So eventually my Neon's battery does go out around year 2000 but I am 300-400 miles from home so I have to buy a new battery and cannot use the one still on the charger.</p><br />
<p>Story: Fast forward to 2005 and Neons's purchased-away-from-home battery dies so I finally get to take the 1999 bought battery off the charger and install it in the Neon. I know that this battery is already 6 years old by the date that I bought it but I figure who cares - it is free. (I recycle the dead battery.)</p><br />
<p>I get about 1.5 years out of this battery and it is finally giving out in early 2007. The car was getting it hard to start and finally, I have to roll the car down a hill to start it by popping the clutch. I drive over to an Autozone in torrential rain to buy a battery. I hold an umbrella while a younger guy tests the battery and tells me it is toast. We go back in and I purchase a new battery. We go out to install it with me again holding the umbrella in the rain. The guy gets the old battery unhooked, pulls off the plastic heat shield cover and says "What the hell?" I asked, "Is there something wrong?" He looks at me and says "No, nothing wrong but the date code sticker on this battery is September 1998. There is no way in hell this battery lasted that long." Knowing what the history, I figured I'd play along and said "I guess I remember that the battery was replaced around 1999." The guy said "I can't believe it, this battery lasted 8 years in a Dodge Neon!" I say: "Well, I have over 200,000 miles on the car." He finishes putting in the new battery, takes the 9 year old one and says "I'll have to tell all the guys in the store about this. This is incredible. I can't believe it." I told him, "Sure, you tell all the guys about it." and I left.</p><br />
<p>Big Foot<br />Loch Ness Monster<br />Nine year old battery in a 1995 Dodge Neon</p></p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T19:03:27Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from chrisexv6 on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c14882866" rel="nofollow">pecan 3.14159265</a>:</p>
<p>It never qualified for lemon law because the failures were strung out over some time.  First tranny went at 1500 miles, second at 30K which was a while later.  Other than that (heh minor issue right?) the car was great.</p>
<p>I have since gotten rid of the car.  And that battery thing was the last time I let the dealer touch it, except for one last "stick it to em right before the warranty ends" move (a nice new 700.00 leather seat cover because the seat belt was causing the original one to tear).</p>
<p>So far my Nissans/Infinity's have served me well, so when it comes time Ill be headed back to them.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T18:43:50Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Ragman on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>No cold battery stories, I live in the south.  But, I do have experience with all 3 cars we bought in the 90s that came stock with Delco batteries - two Saturns and a Pontiac - all of the cars we bought in the 90s.  Utter crap.  All 3 had a cell or more go out within the first year - FYI, it means we had 12V, but not enough amps to crank the car.  The last one that died, I had Saturn Roadside drive out and replace the battery under warranty.  The Roadside Assistance guy told me that it was extremely common, and replaced the stock with a Delco Professional series battery. That battery actually lasted 3 years w/o problems until I replaced it with a Diehard.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T18:32:57Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from tchann on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>My car battery died on me once. The light had been on for weeks, but so had the ABS light, so I'd ignored them both. And then, one Saturday, I drove the mile and a half to work.</p>
<p>At the bottom of the first hill, my radio stopped playing. I didn't even really notice it at first. It wasn't until I realized the dash lights were out, half a mile from work, that I thought something might be wrong.</p>
<p>As I reached the turn into the office complex, I felt a stiffening in my steering wheel and it dawned on me that the power steering was kaput. Then, as I turned into the parking lot, I discovered that my gas and brakes no longer functioned and by some miracle, coasted to a stop: positioned perfectly in a parking space.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T18:22:47Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from theblackdog on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <name>theblackdog</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I had a car battery in my 97 Hyundai Elantra that regularly had issues with corrosion building up on the positive terminal.  One weekend I went and doused the terminal with the baking soda and water solution to clear the corrosion, but apparently I didn't use enough water to rinse it off.  The mixture dripped down and ate a small hole into the charcoal canister that was part of the fuel/emissions system.</p>
<p>Two weeks later, my check engine light starts going on.  The dealership looks, but can't find the fault using their fuel sniffer.  So they reset the light and tell me to bring it back in with less than a quarter tank of fuel if the light goes on again.  Sure enough, the light went on again, so I brought it back in.  They had to take the fuel tank off (that's why they wanted it to be 1/4 or less) and blow smoke through the system before they finally found the problem.  What was the fix?  Covering it with epoxy.</p>
<p>$500 to have them spread some glue over a part on my car.  This is why from now on I'm taking the battery out before I clean corrosion off of it.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T18:17:14Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from theblackdog on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>In Phoenix the heat is bad enough to kill your batteries dead without warning.  One day you'll start your car, drive home from work and everything is fine.  The next morning you go to start your car, and the battery is dead as a doornail, not even enough charge to make the engine click.  Happened to my parents a few times already.</p>
<p>The guy at Checker Auto Parts told my dad that they basically recommend people replace their battery every two years in Phoenix because the batteries drop dead so often within that time frame.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T18:09:47Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14883184</id>
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    <title>Comment from AngryElf on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>They don't make batteries like they used to.</p><br />
<p>My 2004 van came with a factory option: a deep-cycle second battery (and all the charging infrastructure) for running toys like computers, lights, tvs, fans, etc. inside. Just like a real RV or yacht.</p><br />
<p>A US company bought that major European battery's company and decided never to make the deep-cycle battery available in the US.</p><br />
<p>A deep-cycle battery is designed with thicker plates to be charged, uncharged, charged at lot. It's how electric cars will work. Car starter batteries don't like to be discharged at all.</p><br />
<p>The battery is a non-standard size (meaning it's the size that fits almost all Mercedes, BMWs, Audis and Porches. And it's designed to be safe inside the cabin.</p><br />
<p>With the coming of a standard car that will run 40 - 100 miles without needing to start an engine the main problem will be the battery company, not the battery.</p><br />
<p>Luckily battery technology patents are being bought by oil companies. So this will all end well.</p><br />
<p>For me, I just bought the $80 starter battery as a substitute. In a pinch it can be pulled and used as a starter battery in any good German car or van. I can throw the battery away three times and buy another one before it approaches the cost of freighting a battery from Europe.</p></p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T18:07:40Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14883077</id>
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    <title>Comment from Eyebrows McGee (now with more baby!) on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c14875008" rel="nofollow">oldgraygeek</a>: My husband's battery has died more than once, and jump starting does NOT do the trick ... and our local auto parts store (some chain, he knows, I don't remember) which is just a few blocks away has a charger in the store. Which you can use for free. So he yanks the battery out of the car, borrows my car, and goes to charge it.</p>
<p>(Why does it die in the first place? Because he can only concentrate on one thing at a time, and if that thing is, say, "Big motion that'd due today" that thing is NOT "turn off my headlights when I park.")</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T17:59:12Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Pixel on 2009-08-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>Pixel</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c14875833" rel="nofollow">zacox</a>: Sounds like a classic alternator failure.</p>
<p>I had an alternator fail while driving back from Philadelphia to Hartford. Fortunately I was caravaning with a friend, so we put the dead battery in the car with a good alternator, and the good one in the car with a bad alternator. Our plan was to keep swapping them back and forth as needed, with the one car charging a battery while the other car drained the other one.<br />
The car with the bad alternator blew up it's transmission 75 miles later, but that's another story.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T17:51:12Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14882913</id>
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    <title>Comment from Pixel on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>The worst battery failure I ever saw was in the parking lot of a supermarket I worked at. A rustbucket of a Ford Escort started up, there was a loud thump noise,  the guy ignored it and pulled out of the space. As he pulled out of the space he'd backed into both tires on one side thumped up and over something tall rocking the whole car. He ignored this as well and drove off. As he drove off I looked and his battery was sitting in the parking space (now rather smashed by having been run over), with the cable ends still attached. <br />
I can only imaging the look on his face when it won't start next time and he opens the hood to jump it...</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T17:43:40Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from pecan 3.14159265 on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>@<a href="http://consumerist.com/5341240/share-your-car-battery-disasters-with-consumer-reports#c14875985" rel="nofollow">chrisexv6</a>: Methinks you got a lemon.</p></p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T17:38:08Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14882863</id>
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    <title>Comment from pecan 3.14159265 on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>@<a href="http://consumerist.com/5341240/share-your-car-battery-disasters-with-consumer-reports#c14875880" rel="nofollow">pyehac</a>: That reminds me of one time right after I had gotten my old car back from the shop. It had started to storm really badly and the wipers were on full wipey mode. I was driving down the street trying to see 10 feet in front of me when I realize that my car won't accelerate. I could brake, but not accelerate at all, and when I tried, the lights flickered and nothing happened. I was finally able to coast my car into an empty turn lane, and turn the engine off. I was so scared I was going to get stuck in the rain and someone was going to have to drive in it to come get me. Luckily, I turned the engine and it worked, and the car seemed perfectly fine after that. I still have no idea what happened, but maybe someone else does.</p></p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T17:37:51Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14882827</id>
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    <title>Comment from pecan 3.14159265 on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>@<a href="http://consumerist.com/5341240/share-your-car-battery-disasters-with-consumer-reports#c14875595" rel="nofollow">NobleCrayfish</a>: The one in my old car lasted 7 years, but then it crapped out on me after dinner and we had to have it towed. So like nullrout says, please look into preventitive maintenance!</p></p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T17:34:23Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from pecan 3.14159265 on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>@<a href="http://consumerist.com/5341240/share-your-car-battery-disasters-with-consumer-reports#c14875195" rel="nofollow">Laura Northrup</a>: My car once broke down just as I was pulling into a parking space at work. I was very lucky, but freaked out at the prospect of being marooned at work (it was just me and someone else that day).</p></p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T17:33:06Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14882625</id>
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    <title>Comment from matthines on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c14874954" rel="nofollow">iDevin</a>: drive on electric power that is created by a coal burning plant...very environmentally friendly</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T17:15:30Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14882412</id>
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    <title>Comment from nullrout on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>@<a href="http://consumerist.com/5341240/share-your-car-battery-disasters-with-consumer-reports#c14875595" rel="nofollow">NobleCrayfish</a>:</p><br />
<p>That's great and all but you might want to eat the 70 bucks and do a bit of preventitive maintenance...might save you from being stranded somewhere you don't want to be stranded.</p></p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T16:50:16Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from must hold harmless on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>@<a href="http://consumerist.com/5341240/share-your-car-battery-disasters-with-consumer-reports#c14875595" rel="nofollow">NobleCrayfish</a>: The battery in my 1998 Jeep Grand Cherokee (just traded it in via CARS program... bless its soul) lasted 11 years!</p></p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T16:43:14Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Illuminado on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Alright this is a bit of a crazy battery story, but it's true so help me.</p>
<p>I got my truck (an '02 Nissan Frontier) in 2005 w/ about 50,000 miles on it, and it seemed like it was in pretty good condition.  It ran fine, did everything fine like a normal truck's supposed to.</p>
<p>One day I was driving back home from a friend's house when my power went out to everything! Frantic, and immediately realizing that something was wrong, I pulled over just in time to see a big puff of smoke escape my engine vent.</p>
<p>I popped the hood, fire extinguisher in hand and prepared to douse the flames before my investment burned itself to the ground.  When the smoke cleared, it turned out that the batter clamp had come loose, and had bridged the positive and negative terminals melting through the plastic housing and exposing the internal acid to my car's electrical wiring.</p>
<p>I had to drive back to my friend's house, being extremely careful not to let too much acid spill out destroying my trucks insides.  Detach the battery, douse the entire inside compartment with baking soda and hose it off a bit, then came the fun part.</p>
<p>After assessing the damage, I came to find that the acid hadn't done too much damage to the hard plastic shell that was my fusebox, and didn't burn through the intake or anything vital.  It seems that the only damage was the melted wiring coming out of the electrical housing.  So I pulled out a large roll of electrical tape, and did my best to insulate the wires individually, then bundle them back up together nice and neat.  After a quick trip to Kragen's and a battery and (battery clamp) later, my truck was running fine again.  But to think that one $10 part was able to cause so much havoc was maddening.</p>
<p>I would urge others to make sure that their battery clamps are securely fastened, and that they don't conduct electricity &gt;_&gt;</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T12:10:53Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from jwissick on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c14875284" rel="nofollow">Thassodar</a>: Optima yellow tops rock.  I Love mine.  Powers my transmitters just fine.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T11:25:12Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14880546</id>
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    <title>Comment from framitz on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Failure by disection.</p>
<p>56 Ford station wagon with a V8 engine.<br />
Punched the gas to do a burn out and when the engine revved a fan blade broke off.  The blade went through the battery, hit the fender well, came back through the battery at a different angle, then hit something and was deflected down to shear off the radiator petcock.</p>
<p>The battery ended up in three pieces and the acid went everywhere.</p>
<p>We managed to fix the radiator and get it running again, but then a couple of weeks later the electrical problems started.  Most of the wiring was cloth insulated and deteriorated over a short time creating multiple shorts.  The car ended up junked.</p>
<p>This is probably one of the very few cases of battery failure by sudden destruction and NOT caused by any type of electrical failure.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T11:15:51Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Wombatish on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c14874954" rel="nofollow">iDevin</a>: Speaking of Battery (design) fail, my boyfriend drives a 92 Buick Regal, and to replace the over-sized (and more expensive) battery it takes you have to take out part of the air conditioning tubing, the windshield wiper fluid tank, one of the major engine braces that are bolted into the frame, and part of something else.</p>
<p>So yeah, one battery change is easily 200+ dollars, and that's getting the battery at a pretty good deal. Fortunately the shop we took it to took pity on us and gave us a nice deal on the labor, but yeah, -ugh-. Especially in a clunker that needs to just be put out of it's misery, but we can't afford to do that just yet.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T09:56:37Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from MooflesThaCat on 2009-08-20</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>The probelm with the Mazda 3 was a loose connector in the car's ECU. I have a 07 Mazda 6 and had the exact same problem. The car seems like it wants to stall out and then refuses to go over 60 miles an hour. It's a problem that is very common with Mazdas and takes a miracle for the dealer to find. They had my car for 10 days before a tech could figure it out.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T09:11:14Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from shinerunner12 on 2009-08-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>shinerunner12</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>When I was 12 we was driving from Ohio to Florida we was around Macon Georga. The year was 1973, the Cadallac's battery light came on, my dad gets out pops the hood, sure enough the alternator belt broke. He tells my mom to take off her pantyhose. He cuts them up stretches them out and runs them around the pulleys ties the two ends together, and we drove all the way home on the pantyhose belt.</p></p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-08-20T08:46:19Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14878891</id>
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    <title>Comment from Yorkiemom on 2009-08-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>Yorkiemom</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>My battery did die on a dark and stormy night!  I had a GMC Suburban that was less than 6 mos. old and I was closing up shop at a mall about 11 one night.  Got to the truck and turned the key  to hear nothing happening.  Of course, my husband was out of town on business and I had one of my 4 kids with me.  We called whatever emergency road service we had at the time and I made it clear I was alone with a child.   The tow truck guy came, loaded the truck on the flatbed and took it to the dealer.  Next day the service manager called to say the battery had split on the side and was completely shot.  Of course I got a new battery out of the deal but the creepiness of waiting at night with a young child in the pouring rain was a bit stressful.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-08-20T08:29:16Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14878843</id>
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    <title>Comment from Chmeeee on 2009-08-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>Chmeeee</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c14876242" rel="nofollow">alyssariffic</a>: Hold on, I've got something in the trunk that might help!</p>
<p>(it's in the trunk on my Z4 too)</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-08-20T08:25:41Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14878745</id>
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    <title>Comment from KenJason on 2009-08-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>KenJason</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c14875008" rel="nofollow">oldgraygeek</a>: I've only had an alternator go bad 1 time, and that was not related to the battery at all.  My windshield washer hose popped off and was spraying directly into it.  Locked up a few hours after I noticed my washer fluid wasn't coming out.  I thought I was just out.</p>
<p>I have, many many times in my life, left the dome light on and had to jump start.  Never once had an issue with charging it back up by driving around.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-08-20T08:19:54Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14878643</id>
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    <title>Comment from catastrophegirl on 2009-08-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>catastrophegirl</name>
        <uri>http://www.catastrophegirl.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c14875657" rel="nofollow">cyborg5001</a>: @<a href="#c14876888" rel="nofollow">Tankueray</a>: a friend bought a pontiac with an aftermarket alarm system and the battery died within two days. the new battery immediately showed signs of overuse before he disconnected it and had it taken to an autoelectric place.<br />
the auto electric place gave him issues before he called me ['your alternator is all drained out' !?!]</p>
<p>i checked the circuits and discovered the alarm system had been wired by the previous owner to not go off [because the remote had been lost] and it was looping back into itself. had the alarm removed, recharged the new battery, it lasted another 3 years.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-08-20T08:14:40Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14878544</id>
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    <title>Comment from catastrophegirl on 2009-08-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>catastrophegirl</name>
        <uri>http://www.catastrophegirl.com</uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c14875595" rel="nofollow">NobleCrayfish</a>: now, by the conditions of murphy's law, you should probably check your battery tomorrow.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-08-20T08:10:13Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14878138</id>
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    <title>Comment from Outrun1986 on 2009-08-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>Outrun1986</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c14875595" rel="nofollow">NobleCrayfish</a>: I had one last for 9 years, I am in the northeast though and I have heard that living in the south where its hotter tends to kill batteries quicker.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-08-20T07:46:28Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14878011</id>
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    <title>Comment from ddbEntertainment on 2009-08-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>ddbEntertainment</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>2001 Ford Mustang GT, live in the south so the cold isn't affecting it. Loses charge if not started up within 4-5 days. I purchased the car new and neither the dealership nor anyone else could/can find a short or any other problem that is causing my mysterious dead battery. I have only changed the battery once since owning the vehicle and after a full charge my diagnostic equipment shows the correct amount of cranking amps and voltage from the battery and the alternator is maintaining the charge and tests good.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-08-20T07:38:31Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14877821</id>
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    <title>Comment from nstonep on 2009-08-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>nstonep</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c14875985" rel="nofollow">chrisexv6</a>: Find a new dealership.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-08-20T07:28:54Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14877809</id>
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    <title>Comment from bastion72 on 2009-08-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>bastion72</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I used to have an 87 Jetta. When I would turn right sharply, the car would stall. It did it randomly though. I didn't figured it out until I opened the hood and saw the battery askew. What was happening was the battery came loos in it's tray and when I would turn right it would slide over to the frame of the car and short out, causing the car to stall. I tightened the battery down and it never happened again.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-08-20T07:28:05Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14877804</id>
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    <title>Comment from nstonep on 2009-08-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>nstonep</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c14876242" rel="nofollow">alyssariffic</a>: Even with a battery in the trunk there is a positive terminal under the hood...always!  But there would likely never be corrosion on that positive terminal.  Shade-tastic!</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-08-20T07:27:43Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14877769</id>
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    <title>Comment from nstonep on 2009-08-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>nstonep</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Well...if you have a ton of electronics and keep the battery output up, you're going to fry just about every battery.  For those who don't need the "thump thump" the only battery brand I could ever recommend is braille.  Mostly lightweight racing batteries but have general purpose batteries as well.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-08-20T07:25:58Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14877749</id>
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    <title>Comment from formergr on 2009-08-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>formergr</name>
        <uri>http://</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c14875008" rel="nofollow">oldgraygeek</a>: Actually, I have a follow-up question. What if after jump-starting it, you leave it attached to the jumping car and charge it off that (if that is in fact what would happen)? Does that reduce the strain on the alternator so that it doesn't die a week later?</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-08-20T07:25:05Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14877203</id>
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    <title>Comment from Blueskylaw on 2009-08-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>Blueskylaw</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>About three years ago I went to start my Benz and nothing happened. I turned the radio on and it was dead so I pretty much knew it was a dead battery. I opened the hood (Bonnet) and I saw that the left side of the battery (don't remember the brand) was completely split apart to the bottom and all the acid had leaked out and it wasnt even winter. <br />I had to spend the next hour flushing the area with water and pouring baking soda on it to neutralize the acid residue.</p></p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-08-20T07:00:24Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14876888</id>
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    <title>Comment from Tankueray on 2009-08-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>Tankueray</name>
        <uri>http://www.bluedogblackdog.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c14875657" rel="nofollow">cyborg5001</a>: Do you have an aftermarket alarm system?  I have a similar story with my '89 Trans Am and a red-top Optima, it's the alarm system for some reason.  Same exact alarm on almost the same engine in my Tahoe and it's never had a problem.  My GTA lives in the garage most of the time anyway, so I just keep a charger on it.  Very annoying.  If I let the GTA sit for more than a day, the battery will be dead.  One thing I had been doing was to get one of those solar battery minders to put on the dash while I'm out about town, just in case.  Costs about $30 and plugs into the lighter.</p>
<p>It just occurred to me that when the battery used to start dying, the alarm would chirp every few minutes.  I can't recall it doing that in a few years now.</p>
<p>20 years from now, I'm going to be the old lady with a classic car in the garage with only 20,000 miles on it.  But I'll be damned if I'll let it go for $100.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T06:44:40Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14876762</id>
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    <title>Comment from Cant_stop_the_rock on 2009-08-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>Cant_stop_the_rock</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c14875595" rel="nofollow">NobleCrayfish</a>:</p>
<p>I'm at 6 years now... the battery in my last car died after about 3 years I think</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-08-20T06:39:13Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14876242</id>
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    <title>Comment from alyssariffic on 2009-08-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>alyssariffic</name>
        <uri>http://</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>My friend took his BMW to the shop for some maintenance. The worker came out and told him his battery had some corrosion on it, and asked him if he wanted to buy a new one from them.  My friend laughed, and asked the worker to show him.  The worker walks over and pops open the hood and then stares in confusion. In that model BMW the battery is in the trunk. Not quite a battery disaster, just a shady repair shop, but amusing still.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-08-20T06:11:36Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14876169</id>
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    <title>Comment from xredgambit on 2009-08-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>xredgambit</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>I drove my brother to work one day in my 90 dodge caravan (was my moms, but then mine). The battery seemed to die just as I got to an advance. They tested the battery and said it was dead and so I bought a new one. I went to work as a pizza delivery boy and went fine all night. I didn't have a radio in the van so nothing but the car to use the battery. That night when I went home I was about 2 blocks away when I noticed that the lights were barely even on. I just glided my way into my driveway because the battery died.</p><br />
<p>Next day my dad jumps me and so we go to advance. I don't even make it there. I made it just a little past where my lights dimmed the night before. After getting the battery charged at advance we drove there and tested the altinator as bad.</p></p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-08-20T06:08:30Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14876141</id>
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    <title>Comment from knackeredmom on 2009-08-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>knackeredmom</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>My '97 Grand Caravan had a battery with a cell or two that exploded. It still started and ran for a while, so I didn't realize there was a problem. Later it died just before I hopped on the highway. I took it to the dealership under warranty, and the tech ran through 2 pairs of gloves replacing the battery (The acid burned through.) Unfortunately, the van died in traffic again. The acid had slowly burned through several wires, and the dealership had to replace the wiring harness. Thank goodness for warranty repair. Didn't have another problem after that.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2009-08-20T06:06:41Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14875985</id>
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    <title>Comment from chrisexv6 on 2009-08-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>chrisexv6</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Honda dealer needs to swap out the transmission on my Accord (2nd time in 30K miles.....THANKS HONDA)</p>
<p>Pick up car, drive home.  Next say SRS (airbag) light comes on.  bring car back to dealer "sorry 85.00 diag fee to find out why, and possibly up to 600.00 to reset the light depending on why".</p>
<p>2 days later battery dies.  Picked up a new battery using a different vehicle, go to install it in the Honda and find the brilliant service personnel didnt tighten the positive battery cable.  Swap new battery in just because, tightened cables fired up car and SRS light magically disappeared.</p>
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    </content>
    <published>2009-08-20T05:58:34Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14875905</id>
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    <title>Comment from SagarikaLumos on 2009-08-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>SagarikaLumos</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>I drove my 1989 Olds 98 from 2001 until about 2 weeks ago with two batteries total.  I'm sold on that brand and will always buy it: Exide.  The one I started with was the premium battery that has dual terminals, and I accidentally replaced it with a similar one that was 2 sizes bigger.  I never worried about batteries.  The first lasted over 5 years and I have no doubt the second will, too.</p><br />
<p>The replacement happened on a very cold day, the day after Christmas, 2004.  The car turned over 3 times very slowly and caught.  I drove straight to the store for a new one.  Couldn't have been at a better time: I had Christmas money, I was in my driveway, and I had 2 roommates if it hadn't started.</p></p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T05:52:27Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14875880</id>
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    <title>Comment from pyehac on 2009-08-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>pyehac</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I get off from work, and when I turned the key, my car wouldn't start.  I ask a coworker to help jumpstart my car (luckily I always back into a parking space, or else it would be impossible) and I get it going.  I didn't think much of it and just took off.  When I got to a slight incline going out of the parking lot, my car died.  Luckily a few people helped me and pushed my car to an empty parking lot, where I waited for my Dad to come with his own jumper cables.  I get it going but revved the engine a few times just to make sure, and made the 12 mile trek home - with my Dad behind me just incase.  I get home, and unfortunately there's another slight incline going into my house, and I stalled again - luckily family members were able to push my car into the garage.  Eventually I got a new car battery so everything is cherry.</p>
<p>One thing I did learn was that when the battery is dead - my Mazda3 doesn't have power steering - or barely any steering.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T05:51:12Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14875833</id>
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    <title>Comment from zacox on 2009-08-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>zacox</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>When I was a child, my parents took me on a trip to Nags Head, NC. The drive was about 7 hours from my home in Lancaster, PA. We made the trip in a 1981 Chrysler Lebaron.</p>
<p>On the way back, after a couple hours of driving, the battery warning light came on. We weren't really sure what the cause was, since the car and the electrical equipment in the car were working just fine.</p>
<p>By a few hours later, as we passed Baltimore, we noticed the radio and dashboard backlights dimming a little bit. Naturally, as a 9-year-old, I was scared to death because what would happen if the car suddenly failed?!</p>
<p>About 40 miles from home, the headlights were so dim that other drivers were flashing their lights at us thinking we had ours off. The horn didn't work. The windshield wipers were idle. The radio wouldn't play, and there was no ambient light within the car.</p>
<p>My mom was practically praying "oh please just let us get close to home."</p>
<p>Someone must have heard those prayers.</p>
<p>After driving for at least five hours with the battery-warning light on, and for the last hour with nothing but a motor, steering and brakes, our car stalled as we pulled into the parking lot next to our apartment.</p>
<p>My mother taught me the definition of fortuitous on that evening. I never forgot it.</p>
<p>Incidentally, the battery was actually a champ. The alternator had failed!</p>
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    <published>2009-08-20T05:48:09Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14875779</id>
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    <title>Comment from kvanh on 2009-08-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>kvanh</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c14874954" rel="nofollow">iDevin</a>: I have a prius as well (1st generation) and the prius has 2 batteries, the big honking one for the drive train and a normal 12 V one for the computers and outlets AND the starter.</p>
<p>When that battery dies you can't start your car anymore and the computer goes all wonky.  The sucky part - this battery can die if you don't drive for awhile. Apparently there is a pretty steep idle draw.</p>
<p>So a few years back my battery had gotten weak and an ice storm kept me working at home for a week. Went to start the car -- nothing.</p>
<p>Interestingly the 12V battery in this Prius is in the trunk so when I got a jump start you hook up the jumper cables in the trunk. Makes it easy to jump in a driveway when you park head-in.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T05:43:46Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14875753</id>
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    <title>Comment from baquwards on 2009-08-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>baquwards</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Car starts, but the starter sounds a bit slow, but no big deal, so I think!  Put the car in drive and it has no power feels like it is stuck in 3rd gear.  I drive a few hundreds yards and turn it off and restart and all is well, the transmission works just fine.  This happens a couple of times in cold weather, but starts doing it every time in the summer.  I take it to Meineke near work and they go all over it, couldn't find any problems.  The manager goes online and finds a service bulletin, describing the same symptoms that I had.</p>
<p>Come to find out when the car detects less than 8 volts when started, it puts the transmission in "failsafe mode" so it can be driven to safety without damaging the transmission.  This explains why I had problems when it was cold, and then again when I was starting it with the A/C always on (along with radio and satellite radio).  They replaced the battery and the car has been perfect since.</p>
<p>I thought that I would have a costly repair on my hands, I mean when a transmission won't shift, that is almost never good.  Who would have thought that it was just the battery!</p>
<p>This was a 2000 Nissan Sentra.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T05:42:34Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14875657</id>
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    <title>Comment from cyborg5001 on 2009-08-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>cyborg5001</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I have a 98 Pontiac Sunfire, and for the entire time that I have owned it the battery has died every 6-8 months, no matter what. If I drive it daily, or only every few weeks, it dies. When the battery is tested, they alwasy say it has a bad cell, and that I need a new one. I have tried an Optomo battery, and cheap batteries, and they all die. My most recent plan has been to buy a die hard, which seems to have the most liberal replacement policy. So when it dies, I get 1 to 2 free replacements before I pay a pro-rated replacement fee. But it still sucks. I have tried looking for a short or a vampire, but I can't find anything wrong.<br />
On a side note, the car has always had a problem with alternators too. They seem to die, but its not the charging problem that the parts store poster said, I use a home charger to try and put the juice back into it when it dies, before replacement.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T05:36:26Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14875647</id>
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    <title>Comment from sponica on 2009-08-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>sponica</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I remember one year (2005?), when I was working the later shift at the movie theater, I was driving my mom's car (a 1998 ford escort wagon).  It started funky when I left the theater, but it really needed gas so I stopped at the station, filled up....and yep, you guessed it.  It died.  I called the theater, asking if they could send someone out to jump me.  I jump started it...and it couldn't retain the charge....then I called USAA roadside.  They couldn't find anyone willing to come (a whole different story).  In the meantime I had called my mom.  She came down, we called the local police department to see who THEY called when they needed to tow cars and then called that service.  Only to have the service USAA called pull up right as the car was on the other truck (again a different story).</p>
<p>The battery tested as dead (or something like that, I don't know cars).   So we got a new battery....only to have it be determined that the alternator was the culprit and killed the battery.  But maybe my memory is inaccurate.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T05:35:45Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14875627</id>
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    <title>Comment from krunk4ever on 2009-08-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>krunk4ever</name>
        <uri>http://www.krunk4ever.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>My car battery did recently die, but I wasn't stuck in a dark stormy night. Though I've only had my battery for a little over 3 years and it was the <b>DieHard Gold Series</b> (top of the line at Sears; 3 year free replacement warranty; pro-rated warranty after that for up to 10 years). As you can see, I was a bit miffed that my battery died just 2 months after the free replacement warranty ended.</p>
<p>Anyway, you can read about the eventful day I had on my blog: <a href="http://www.krunk4ever.com/blog/2009/08/16/car-trouble-dead-battery/" rel="nofollow">[www.krunk4ever.com]</a></p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T05:34:02Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14875595</id>
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    <title>Comment from NobleCrayfish on 2009-08-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>NobleCrayfish</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I have had the same battery in my car for 7 years and it works fine. I am told that this is an exceptionally long time.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T05:31:36Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14875409</id>
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    <title>Comment from formergr on 2009-08-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>formergr</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c14875008" rel="nofollow">oldgraygeek</a>: I've been through this scenario myself, and know many others who have, but never knew the reason or way to prevent it. Thank you for the very servicey comment!</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T05:21:06Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14875317</id>
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    <title>Comment from Chmeeee on 2009-08-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>Chmeeee</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I killed the battery one summer weekend in my diesel Jetta when I forgot about the refrigerated cooler that I had left plugged into the trunk power outlet.  No problem though, I was able to roll-start it with the clutch.</p>
<p>That episode must have weakened it however, as it died again that winter with nothing to blame it on.  I drove up to Rutland Vermont for a ski weekend and left it parked on the street Friday night.  Woke up in the morning and went out to start it, got one slow crank and then nothing.  I should note that it was -18F that morning and that diesels do NOT like cold, so really require maximum cranking power in that kind of weather.</p>
<p>No problem, I think.  After all, I am parked at the top of a large hill.  I get it rolling (backwards), pop the clutch in reverse at about 10-15 mph, the front tires lock up on the sand in the road and it slides.  I tried again with people pushing downhill, same results.  Now I'm at the bottom, so my friend gets his pickup truck to jump the battery.  No dice on that either (we're getting cold now, remember, -18F).  Apparently the amperage on the battery in the diesels is so high that when you try to jump it off of a gas car, the current actually flows the wrong way.  The pickup truck actually sucked up what little juice I had left.</p>
<p>Plan C: AAA.  They took 1.5 hours to show up, during which time somebody had to be with the car, since by this time we had done so many roll-starting attempts that we were no longer near the house.  At this point, I can't feel my toes.  AAA shows up, has enough juice in the super tow truck batteries and is able to get my car started, at which point we filled the entire street with black smoke.  Yech.</p>
<p>Kind of wrecked the day, since we got the car started at 11:30.  Not really worth heading to the mountain at that point, so we just pointed south and left.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T05:15:41Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14875284</id>
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    <title>Comment from Thassodar on 2009-08-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>Thassodar</name>
        <uri>http://www.stuuffs.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Original Equip: Optima Yellow Top Battery came with the car to support the stereo in the car (used car). Short sequence of events:</p>
<p>Car won't start. Take car to family mechanic. Family mechanic OPENs the battery, not knowing anything about Optima Batteries (dry cell batteries), sees that it's dry, takes it to the auto shop and trades it out for a $70 crappy battery. Returns car. Lights dim when playing music now...wtfrench? Check battery...this isn't a Optima!</p>
<p>I drove around with a crappy battery for 2 years after that simply because I couldn't afford another Optima Yellow Top. 5 months ago that battery starts to go crappy on me, but I assumed it was the alternator going out because of the high power consumed by the stereo. Got the battery tested, it's going bad. 3 months ago I scrounged up enough cash to get one ($240!), have been happy ever since. Won't need a battery for a looooong looooong time.</p>
<p>Not really about battery failure, but a battery story nonetheless.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T05:13:40Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14875253</id>
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    <title>Comment from segfault on 2009-08-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>segfault</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c14875008" rel="nofollow">oldgraygeek</a>: <br />
Or, get the battery and alternator tested, or learn how to test them yourself.</p>
<p>With all of the gadgets standard on new cars today, you'd think they would be self-aware enough to come up with some sort of error when the battery is beginning to show signs of failure (e.g., a low voltage after sitting for a given number of hours).</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T05:12:08Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14875195</id>
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    <title>Comment from Laura Northrup on 2009-08-20</title>
    <author>
        <name>Laura Northrup</name>
        <uri>http://www.lauriebird.com/blog</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c14875005" rel="nofollow">clickertrainer</a>: My parents' car died as they happened to be driving past their mechanic. Good timing.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T05:08:35Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14875008</id>
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    <title>Comment from oldgraygeek on 2009-08-19</title>
    <author>
        <name>oldgraygeek</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I worked in auto parts stores for a few decades. The worst "battery" story started to become common as cars got lighter, and heavy steel alternators became a thing of the past.<br />
Here's the sequence of events:<br />
--The battery goes dead.<br />
--The customer jump-starts the car, and then drives it around to charge the battery. This appears to work, but...<br />
--The $200 lightweight alternator, not designed to be full-fielded for hours at a time, overheats and dies a week later, discharging the battery again.<br />
--The customer buys an alternator.<br />
--Charging the dead battery kills the new alternator, which is returned as defective.<br />
--This happens again. "Those rebuilt alternators suck."</p>
<p>The moral of the story is: <b>never use your alternator as a battery charger.</b> It can't handle it. Buy a $50 ten-amp charger, and use it for its intended purpose.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T04:56:35Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14875005</id>
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    <title>Comment from clickertrainer on 2009-08-19</title>
    <author>
        <name>clickertrainer</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>My car battery died when my car was parked in the garage, but I suppose that is only epically lucky.</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T04:56:19Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2009://1.5341240-comment:14874954</id>
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    <title>Comment from iDevin on 2009-08-19</title>
    <author>
        <name>iDevin</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I have a Prius.  The only battery failure it exhibits is the lack of ability to plug in and charge the battery from the grid so I can do most of my driving on electric power alone.  But that's probably not what you're looking for, is it?</p>]]>
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    <published>2009-08-20T04:53:06Z</published>
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