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ngoandy
August 31, 2009 1:43 PM
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By far the Genesis versus SNES and the PSX vs Saturn vs N64 are the best.

Genesis vs SNES was awesome since it was the first I was part of.

PSX vs Saturn vs N64 was great since there was a newcomer (Sony) and it totally destroyed a company (Sega). It marked the end of cartridges.

I still see the GameBoy as dominating the handheld market, so I disagree with having those other handheld battles listed.

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KyleOrton
August 31, 2009 4:03 PM
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@ngoandy: How was Sega destroyed? They totally won* the Dreamcast vs. PS2 vs. Gamecube war.

And then won* the Dreamcast vs. Xbox360 vs. PS3 vs. Wii war a few years later.

Heck, that makes it the dominant console in the industry*.

*in my heart.

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mazzic1083
August 31, 2009 4:09 PM
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@futuresuperbowlMVPJayCutler: Sounds like you need those blinders removed, fanboy, haha


No Dreamcast wasn't bad at all but, damn, ps2 was SSSOOO much better it was a no brainer if you were looking to buy a (then) current gen console. Sony totally destroyed during those years.

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squinko
August 31, 2009 2:49 PM
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@ngoandy: *pushes up nerd glasses* Technically the Gameboy no longer dominates the handheld market because they aren't made anymore. It's the DS and the PSP now, but Nintendo definitely has Sony beat there.

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zlionsfan
August 31, 2009 4:17 PM
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@squinko: Yeah, but in its last days, the Game Boy was still selling units, even with the DS and PSP out there (I think they were both in production). Hell, I think I have three or four Game Boys ... original, color, advance ... anyway, it was kind of like the PS2 still selling with the PS3 having been out for a while. People just liked the old Game Boys (probably didn't hurt that places were putting them on clearance either).

@mazzic1083: true. The Dreamcast should have stood up to the PlayStation fairly well, but there just weren't enough titles for it, and not enough things to do with the VMU (although I do remember the knockoff of Mattel football that you could play on it with NFL2K1, I think it was). When the PS2 came out, game over.

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Rhainor
August 31, 2009 2:42 PM
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@ngoandy: Sony didn't destroy Sega; Sega destroyed itself.

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squinko
August 31, 2009 1:44 PM
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I had a NES, but I played my friends' Segas all the time. It was the only way I could play Vectorman and that one comic book hero game. Well, I could play those on the demo unit at Target (which I did every time we were there), but my parents wouldn't let me stand there all day.

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YOXIM
August 31, 2009 3:50 PM
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@squinko: Oh man, I remember going to Target and playing the Demo games when the PSX and N64 were all the rage. Both consoles had actually been out for a while, but still, the joy I felt when I got to play was undescribable.

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Elcheecho
August 31, 2009 3:34 PM
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@squinko: you can get both those games and more on the sega greatest hits game.

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coan_net
August 31, 2009 1:49 PM
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I loved my Sega's.

I had a Sega Master System, more powerful then the NES that was out at the time (that all my friends had)

I tried to explain how my system was more powerful then their NES, but they liked the underdog.

So then Sega Genesis came out..... which I got....

Then the Super Nintendo came out... and I then said, Hey - you like the underdog, so come and get a Sega Genesis... and of course they changed their tune saying they like the more powerful machine, Super Nintendo... Kids..... Stupid kids....

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Powerlurker
August 31, 2009 4:51 PM
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@coan_net:

At the end of the day, software sells hardware and not the other way around, Nintendo's iron-fisted grip on developers made it difficult for most companies to be willing to give up the NES market to take a chance on the Master System. As long as Nintendo had developers making software for their system that's what people would buy. Also, referring to the Genesis or SNES as more powerful is somewhat problematic. The Genesis had a significantly faster and more capable CPU, but the SNES had a better graphics processor.

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DataShade
September 1, 2009 4:15 PM
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@Powerlurker:
SNES's GPU could hold a bigger color palette, 4 million vs. 256 colors; but that meant that while the SNES was prettier, the Genesis was more efficient - hence an extra level in the Earthworm Jim game. Genesis had its own sound processor, SNES didn't.

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Powerlurker
September 1, 2009 5:19 PM
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@DataShade:

It's not just about efficiency, the Genesis had a better and higher clocked CPU (a 68k running at 7.67MHz). The SNES had a cheaper processor based on the MOS Technology 6502 running at 3.58 MHz. Interestingly, the sound processor in the Genesis was identical to the CPU in the Master System (a Z80), which is why backwards compatibility could be achieved with little more than a glorified pinout adapter.

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tbbx
August 31, 2009 1:50 PM
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The Genesis rocked! It was a great console.


Sure, Nintendo survived and created the Wii and Sega does whatever they do now. I haven't heard a peep out of them in years.

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squinko
August 31, 2009 2:09 PM
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@tbbx: If you haven't heard a peep out of them, it's because you haven't been listening. They're a software developer now ([en.wikipedia.org]).

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Powerlurker
August 31, 2009 4:53 PM
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@squinko:

The most unfortunate thing about Sega going software only is how much of their best talent left at that time (Yuji Naka, etc.) They've made a couple good games since, like the spectacular Valkyria Chronicles, but other than that most of it has been thoroughly mediocre.

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WraithSama
August 31, 2009 5:19 PM
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@Powerlurker:
Valkyria Chronicles roxorz my boxers.

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dmuth
August 31, 2009 1:54 PM
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I liked some of the Genesis games (Sonic The Hedgehog comes to mind), but Sega's constant picking on Nintendo stuck me as a dick move, so I stayed with Nintendo consoles.

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RecordStoreToughGuy_starcommandseries.com
August 31, 2009 2:37 PM
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@dmuth: Sega has always been the Pepsi to Nintendo's Coke; as such, their ad campaigns have a similar \"Coke sucks; drink Pepsi!\" feel to them, instead of the \"Drink Coke because it tastes good!\" vibe I get from Nintendo.

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DataShade
September 1, 2009 4:25 PM
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@RecordStoreToughGuy_Has$240WorthOfPuddin': @dmuth:
Somewhere, I have a box of Monkey Island 2 (1991, around the same time as the launch of the SNES), complete with 5.25\" floppies, and a LucasArts newsletter, on actual newsprint, where a couple of LA devs discuss the state of game development at the company - and point out that gamers would have a much better experience if the Big Dog, Nintendo, would adopt CDs instead of catridges.


And, of course, Nintendo's inability to handle CD-ROM in-house led to their botched contract with Sony and the Sony PlayStation.

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AstroPig7
August 31, 2009 1:56 PM
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There are barely enough console generations to have five wars, much less more. I apologize for nitpicking, but this article is reaching. (By the way, I owned a Genesis and a Super Nintendo, and I didn’t get the fanboy behaviour; although Mortal Kombat having blood on the Genesis was much more interesting to the teenage me.)

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Tawnie is Monster Mashing
August 31, 2009 1:57 PM
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I have been a life long Nintendo fan girl. I do end up purchasing most consoles that come out except sony but Nintendo is the only brand I have stood in line for hours for. 18 hours in line at a wal mart to get a Wii the day before they were first released.

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xredgambit
September 2, 2009 1:26 AM
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@tawni: Are you single? Live in ohio? If so contact me.


I only had to stay in line for 9-10 hours for my wii on launch day. I was 1st in line at toys-r-us.


And I go with Nintendo, Zelda games are the best.

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LadySiren is murdering her kids with HFCS and processed cheese
August 31, 2009 1:58 PM
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No mention of some of the before-their-time consoles like the Atari Jaguar or 3DO, boo. That being said...my favorite console title of all time was the very first Mario Kart. Man, laughed my butt off playing it. :)

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mazzic1083
August 31, 2009 4:11 PM
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@LadySiren: Mario Kart for the SNES was indeed a classic. I still have my original and play it from time to time althought I do enjoy mariokart 64 more.

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Kyattsuai
August 31, 2009 1:59 PM
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Until I got a PS1 in 2002, I had nothing but Nintendo consoles, since the NES. On a somewhat related note, those are either some giant kittens or some tiny consoles on the top of that page.

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pecan 3.14159265
August 31, 2009 1:59 PM
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Nintendo, but I secretly coveted my cousin's Sega.

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Pibbs
August 31, 2009 1:59 PM
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When I was a kid in the early 90's, all my friends had Sega, Nintendo, etc. I had an Atari 2600. And an Intellivision 2. Then my parents divorced, and I got all the newest toys. But I still remember the days I grew up with pong, and my grandmother would come from her latest stop at the Salvation Army with another Atari game she bought for a buck. I had to tell her multiple times I already owned the E.T. game, and I didn't need another copy.

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theblackdog
August 31, 2009 3:26 PM
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@Pibbs: You had the infamous E.T. game too? Man did that game make no sense.

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TheWillow
August 31, 2009 2:01 PM
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Any game console that doesn't require at least 5 minutes of manipulation (hitting, blowing, etc) isn't fun.

End of story.

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korybing
August 31, 2009 2:13 PM
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@TheWillow: You have to work for your prize! It made never being able to get past the Dam level in TMNT just that much more satisfying!

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italianscallion33
August 31, 2009 2:03 PM
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Mario Kart and Donkey Kong on Super NES! If only I had the cables, and the games. All I have left is Super Mario Bros. :(

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dp05
August 31, 2009 2:26 PM
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@italianscallion33: If you happen to own a N64 or GameCube, the Composite cables from either are all compatible between the SNES, N64 and GC.

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korybing
August 31, 2009 2:12 PM
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I had an NES and a GameBoy but nearly every week I would go to the video-game rental store and rent a Genesis and play the HELL out of Sonic 2.

Although the \"Sega/Nintendo\" war is kind of moot at this point. Poor Dreamcast.

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ballistic90
August 31, 2009 2:12 PM
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I was the youngest of 3 brothers, so my oldest brother got to pick the third console we owned (first was Atari 2600, second was NES), and he picked the Sega Genesis because he thought it was more mature. I liked it, but after all the RPGs came out for the SNES, I wanted that a lot more.

Oh well. I had emulation for that, eventually. It did convince me to get the N64, Gamecube and Wii systems eventually, which irritated me since none of them really had much of an RPG game library.

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bloggerX
August 31, 2009 2:13 PM
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My SNES from 1991 STILL WORKS! Take that XBOX 360 failure rate!

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dp05
August 31, 2009 2:28 PM
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@bloggerX: Yeah, what he said! My Genesis (an early-ish one bundled with Sonic 2) is still kickin 18 years later as well!

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dragonfire81
August 31, 2009 3:58 PM
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@dpfizzle: Both my Genesis and SNES are still in good working order.

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mazzic1083
August 31, 2009 4:13 PM
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@dragonfire81: Got 2 NES and 1 SNES and 1 64 that all still work like tanks. A few games went ka-put but most of them are fine too.


Although everyone seems to hate cartridges you gotta give them props for reliability.

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dp05
September 1, 2009 6:18 PM
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@mazzic1083: And a pretty relative lack of loading time. Hooray instant door opening!

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DoubleEcho
August 31, 2009 2:20 PM
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Well, here's the crutch for me - Nintendo gave us the Final Fantasy series, especially FF 2 (USA) and also Secret of Mana/Secret of Evermore. But Sega gave us Phantasy Star III, Landstalker, and Shining Force 1 and 2.


So hard to choose....

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DerangedRoleModel
August 31, 2009 3:35 PM
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@DoubleEcho: Did you seriously say Phantasy Star III? I hope you meant Phantasy Star IV.

Oy.

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Powerlurker
August 31, 2009 4:55 PM
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@DerangedRoleModel:

Don't forget Skies of Arcadia and the Jet Grind Radio games, and the Panzer Dragoon franchise.

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Powerlurker
August 31, 2009 5:17 PM
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@Powerlurker:

Oh, and can't forget the Sega CD versions of Lunar and Lunar 2, which were far better than the Playstation remakes.

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YouDidWhatNow?
August 31, 2009 2:48 PM
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I miss the console wars that never happened...


Dreamcast. Jaguar. The, um, Amiga thing. *sigh*

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ovalseven
August 31, 2009 2:51 PM
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I thought the SNES had the much better controller with its L and R buttons on the top.


The Genesis controller didn't make it easy to press more then two buttons at a time.

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teke367
August 31, 2009 6:17 PM
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@BathroomDuck: Exactly, I remember in Street Figher there were six buttons for SNES (high kick/punch, mid kick/punch, low kick/punch), if I remember correctly you had to hit Start or Select as well as the button on Sega to use all the commands.


Dreamcast had a horrible controller, the wire came out the back for crying out loud, and the controller stunk besides that too. And didn't the Jaguar have like 28 buttons?

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mazzic1083
August 31, 2009 4:14 PM
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@BathroomDuck: Agreed, I'm old school so I like the 4 button or 2 button controllers. One of the reasons I hate XBOX and love PS2/PS3, so much easier for me to just go in and not think about which button to push.


Granted if I took the time to learn the controllers I would probably be fine but SNES/NES/PS2 are just so natural feeling.

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bmorg003
August 31, 2009 2:52 PM
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Well, I've always like them both, but to me it was always more about the game and not the system. I'm still more of a PC gamer (a somewhat dying breed these days) than anything else. Even today, if a game comes out on a console that I own and on PC, I'll always pick the PC version.

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DoodlestheGreat
September 3, 2009 5:12 PM
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@bmorg003: I'm also a PC gamer, and will remain so. Consoles will always be in a game of catch-up to the ability of PCs to generate images and movement, and the online communities tend to be far less retarded than the typical XBox Live crowd.

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AnthonyC
August 31, 2009 7:54 PM
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@bmorg003:
You're not alone. Plus, PC games tend to have a bit more of a, I don't know, cerebral character, than console games.

Exceptions abound, of course, but this is the trend I see.

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jehurey
August 31, 2009 2:53 PM
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The Genesis felt like the complete opposite from the SNES, at least from my point of view as a young teenager in the early 90's.

The SNES was a wholesome, White Optimus Prime looking machine. The Genesis felt so murky and kind of filthy; like something that is played in a dimly lit smoke-filled room with a shadowy fat man standing in the doorway.

When Mortal Kombat came out for the consoles, and the Genesis version had all the blood and gore, hell literally broke loose and the console war was on.

It was a pretty fun time.

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backbroken
August 31, 2009 3:19 PM
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Atari 2600 vs Atari 5200.


Poor kids vs rich kids.


You ColecoVision-ers can shut yer pie holes.

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subtlefrog
August 31, 2009 3:22 PM
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Atari Vs. Intellivision!!!!

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theblackdog
August 31, 2009 3:29 PM
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Since I dropped cable, I could use the free cable slot on the back of my TV to hook up my NES and SNES....then it will be time to party.

Could there be a danger to having four generations of consoles hooked up to one TV? ;-)

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dianabanana
August 31, 2009 3:53 PM
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I had both systems, and a turbo graphix 16. Nintendo won for me, hands down. It was the golden age of RPGs!

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edguitar
August 31, 2009 6:09 PM
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Nintendo Kicks ass! these people have insoctrinated me I am so brand loyal to nintendo that I owned a game cube instead of an x box and I have a wii (which I only use for zelda) it was really ahrd to move to xbox 360 but if there is a wiii I'll be intline to buy it too

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G.O.B.: Come on!
August 31, 2009 6:23 PM
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Sega

Although I played both Genesis and SNES and liked both, I prefered Genesis.

Sonic > Mario
Anyday.

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RobertBaron
August 31, 2009 8:27 PM
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Growing up, there was nothing better than a Saturday night full of junk food, NBA Jam and Mortal Kombat and a late night dose of Skinemax.

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Smd75
August 31, 2009 9:44 PM
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I was sega then, but nintendo now.

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ashabanapal
August 31, 2009 10:04 PM
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After my atari 2600, I had nothing but Sega until I got my original xbox in '03. It was a heartbreaking admission of the defeat of my beloved sega, although I still play my dreamcast and saturn. i played friends' nintendos growing up, but just didn't care about most of the games and hated the controllers.

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CVonSkeletor
August 31, 2009 10:45 PM
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I had both, liked them both a lot (had divorced parents, one console at each house, so there was no mixing!) but yeah, looking back that was quite entertaining.

I'm a little suspect that this came from gamepro, as they have just about no credibility though.

But this console war will one day be summed up as follows: \"The best company had the worst machine, and they one. The worst company had the best machine, and they lost. The last company's machine broke\"

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__Ken__
September 1, 2009 1:40 AM
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Cool poll, but what do you select if you had both ;-)

I also had a Turbograffix-16

Ah - to be young and have money....

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Warble
September 1, 2009 3:08 PM
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How many console wars have there even been? Seven? So GamePro just decided which two were the least interesting? (They left out Atari 2600 vs. Intellivision, booooooo!)

Also, Nintendo today is just not the same company as Nintendo of yesteryear. I loved Sega back in the day but of the current players in the market, Nintendo is clearly the best company...even though I only own Sony products...

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