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b612markt
June 16, 2009 4:30 PM
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This could be important if you avoid beef for religious reasons, but otherwise I can't imagine a carnivore really caring that much.

When you order French Onion Soup in most restaurants it is filled with beef stock.

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Rectilinear Propagation
June 17, 2009 1:03 PM
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@b612markt: I just wouldn't expect there to be beef in my chicken any more than I expected those Banquet Chicken Wings to be made with pork. It might not stop me from eating KFC's chicken since I don't avoid beef but this sort of thing irks me because no one knows to ask about it.

I bet if I started asking the waitstaff at restaurants if there was any beef or pork in the chicken they'd look at me like I was crazy.

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Anonymous
June 17, 2009 1:28 AM
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@b612markt: I ate only chicken for over 10 years before ditching chicken entirely. At the time I didn't believe in eating mammals. Not disclosing beef content in a chicken meal would have been completely offensive and even potentially lawsuit worthy.

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EarlNowak
June 16, 2009 5:47 PM
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@b612markt: I don't eat beef for personal reasons.

I had no idea, KFC. I'm glad I never tried your grilled chicken.
I'm going to email popeye's to see if there's any beef in their chicken. This is definitely not something I thought I had to worry about.

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Nogard13
June 16, 2009 5:11 PM
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@b612markt: There are people who are opposed to killing cows but eat chicken and fish. My aunt is one who avoids beef at all costs. I'm sure she'll have something to say when I tell her about this, too (she just tried it last night).

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Alessar
June 16, 2009 5:41 PM
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@Nogard13: I have a friend who has anaphylactic-shock severity allergies to beef. I have another who's been boycotting the beef industry for 10+ years. They would be really upset to hear this.

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CumaeanSibyl
June 16, 2009 4:34 PM
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@b612markt: Yes, but I think that's the traditional recipe. I don't recall ever reading a grilled chicken recipe that called for, say, beef suet.

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qwickone
June 16, 2009 4:58 PM
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@CumaeanSibyl: Yeah, I agree with you. My whole family avoids beef for religious reasons and I'm sure when they hear this they'll fee nauseous (they tried that chicken).

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pecan 3.14159265
June 16, 2009 4:30 PM
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So people who won't eat beef on Mondays are still losing by going to KFC.

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Parapraxis
June 16, 2009 5:54 PM
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@pecan 3.14159265:

I find favor with force-fed foie gras Fridays with family!

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tweaked
June 16, 2009 6:39 PM
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@Parapraxis:

Since it more or less goes without saying that foie gras comes from force-fed geese, I can only assume that you mean you force-feed your family with the stuff.

This raises the further question of whom you find favour with through this activity.

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greenunicorns
June 16, 2009 5:50 PM
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@pecan 3.14159265: \"So people who won't eat beef on Mondays are still losing by going to KFC.\"

Oh they're losing regardless of whether or not they go to KFC.

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chocogray
June 16, 2009 5:12 PM
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@pecan 3.14159265:

Ok pecan, so you got me to laugh this morning i will admit it.

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Megladon
June 16, 2009 4:47 PM
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@pecan 3.14159265:


No one is going to stop eating beef on mondays

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Canino
June 16, 2009 4:50 PM
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@Megladon: No one is going to stop eating beef on mondays


I am! I've implemented \"Venison Monday\" at my house.

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Trae
June 16, 2009 5:35 PM
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@Canino: I've implemented \"Squirrel Mondays\" where we only eat what I can hit with my van on the way home from work!


I may start working in the occasional raccooon...

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Nogard13
June 16, 2009 5:12 PM
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@Canino: Haha, maybe I'll do buffalo mondays, then. I won't eat cow, just bison!

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sonneillon
June 16, 2009 7:11 PM
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@Nogard13: You have a delicious plan sir. Off to pick up some buffalo burgers... Even though it's Tuesday.

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gStein_*|bringing starpipe back|*
June 16, 2009 5:12 PM
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@Canino: i'll give up my Beefy Mondays, but you'll have to pry my Veal Weekends from my cold, dead fingers!

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Jim Topoleski
June 16, 2009 4:33 PM
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\"Small amounts of beef flavors are commonly used in seasonings for many food products, for both restaurant and retail use,\"

And yet funny enough I DONT use beef flavoring when I use real spices, and real herbs when making my chicken. And guess what KFC

My grilled chicken kicks the shit out of yours in taste.

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Dansc29625
June 16, 2009 6:10 PM
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@Jim Topoleski: KFC is probably kicking the shit out of you in volume.

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kevjohn
June 16, 2009 7:13 PM
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@Dansc29625: Yeah, I wonder what his vaunted grilled chicken would taste like if he had to kick out 1000 pieces an hour. And what his profit margin would be looking like.

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ngwoo
June 16, 2009 4:45 PM
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@Jim Topoleski: You're definitely the most objective person to give opinions on your own chicken.

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Applekid
June 16, 2009 4:55 PM
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@ngwoo: I don't put any beef flavorings into my grilled chicken, and it sucks.

Where can I get me some of those? Maybe it'll help me out.

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RecordStoreToughGuy_starcommandseries.com
June 16, 2009 4:55 PM
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@ngwoo: I'd be willing to verify it, if I can get free samples of said shit-kicking chicken.

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leastcmplicated
June 16, 2009 4:38 PM
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@Jim Topoleski: I was just thinking that, I dont think I even have beef stock (bullion) in my cabinet. and I wouldnt ever think of putting it in a chicken spice rub... wth

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CumaeanSibyl
June 16, 2009 4:42 PM
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Hindu people are going to be pissed. What next, do we find out they're frying chicken in bacon grease and lard, so as to anger the members of two more major world religions? One really needs to disclose these things in advance.

There are some very nice recipes that involve mixing different sorts of meat, but if I order a piece of plain chicken, I expect it to be made with chicken and... chicken.

Also, I would never characterize anything from KFC as \"healthy,\" even if it's grilled, but there's \"unhealthy\" and then there's \"hey, let's add a lump of suet.\"

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henwy
June 18, 2009 9:52 PM
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@CmnSbyl:

Scrw th hnds. 'm sck f thm nd thr brgrlss whpprs. t's jst chs, lttc, nd tmt sndwch y mrns!

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Applekid
June 16, 2009 4:57 PM
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@CumaeanSibyl: Chicken fried in bacon grease? Yes, please.

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ChuckECheese
June 16, 2009 10:57 PM
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@Applekid: Chicken is excellent fried in lard. If you are near Mexicans, you might be able to find \"manteca de carnitas,\" which is lard used to fry pork cubes in the preparation of carnitas. It has a concentrated pork flavor, and makes great fried chicken.

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CumaeanSibyl
June 16, 2009 5:35 PM
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@Applekid: Well, yeah, or lard -- that's some good eatin'. If I'm eating somebody's old auntie's fried chicken, I pretty much assume there'll be some sort of pig fat involved. At a restaurant, though? Not so common.

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dhanson865
June 16, 2009 5:13 PM
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@Applekid: As long as its transfat free (no hydrogenated oil) I say porkfat rules. Bring on the baconated chicken.

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hypochondriac
June 16, 2009 4:53 PM
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@CumaeanSibyl:

Aren't Hindu's Vegen? Why would they care if chicken has beef in it? There not supposed to eat meat at all? I know they consider Cow sacred

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bwcbwc
June 17, 2009 3:02 PM
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@hypochondriac: Ever heard the expression \"sacred cow\"? Cows are holy in hinduism (I think they are viewed as the creature whose souls are closest to nirvana because of their general placidity and bovine-ness).

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EarlNowak
June 16, 2009 5:52 PM
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@hypochondriac:
@CumaeanSibyl:

Hinduism isn't what you would call an organized religion. There aren't exactly strict rules. Some hindus are vegetarian (very few are vegan, because milk, butter, honey and yogurt are used in certain prayer ceremonies), but some eat meat.

Some only eat fish (common in Kerala, where \"vegetarian\" food often includes fish), some will eat fish and shellfish but not chicken, some will eat any meat except beef, some will eat all meat. It really depends on family practice and personal choice.

(My grandparents don't eat eggs or wear leather, but my dad will eat any meat, including beef. My mother eats fish and shellfish but nothing else. I don't eat beef or any bovine. We are all hindus.)

As for KFC, I find this extremely distressing. I never tried their grilled chicken but if I had I would be pissed off that they never disclosed that their chicken contains beef.

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CumaeanSibyl
June 16, 2009 5:33 PM
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@hypochondriac: Many Hindu people are vegetarian or vegan, but it's not a requirement. Beef is out of bounds, but dairy products are quite common in Indian foods.

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greenunicorns
June 16, 2009 5:53 PM
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@CumaeanSibyl:

It depends on your caste. Brahmans cannot eat any animal products. Additionally, they cannot eat potatoes or other roots.

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RecordStoreToughGuy_starcommandseries.com
June 16, 2009 4:56 PM
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@hypochondriac: Nah, just beef. Most indian restaurants have chicken, lamb, and even goat dishes. Haven't seen much pork at the ones I've been to, tho.

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pecan 3.14159265
June 16, 2009 4:45 PM
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@CumaeanSibyl: Well, it's common sense, too. Who expects chicken to have beef in it? I would be kind of perturbed if my chicken had beef on it, and I don't really get why it would. I don't put beef on my grilled chicken, why should KFC?

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henwy
June 16, 2009 5:58 PM
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@pecan 3.14159265: Ever added butter to something before grilling it? How about lard? Corn oil? It's the same thing except this was beef fat.

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pecan 3.14159265
June 16, 2009 6:00 PM
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@henwy: Butter isn't made of beef...corn oil isn't made of beef. If I was adding beef fat, I'd know. KFC didn't tell anyone it was adding beef to their chicken.

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henwy
June 16, 2009 9:23 PM
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@pecan 3.14159265:

Of course it told people. If you had looked at the nutritional ingredients, you would have seen so, just like the pollo people did. The whole point wasn't whether corn had beef in it. I was pointing out that THAT is how there might be beef tallow used in the creation of grilling chicken. You have to oil it up somehow so it doesn't get dry on the grill. They probably just decided to use tallow. No story here.

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greenunicorns
June 16, 2009 6:08 PM
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@pecan 3.14159265: \"Butter isn't made of beef\"

Last time I checked, butter comes out of a cow. I'd say it's not the least reasonable thing in the world to make the argument that butter is beef.

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pecan 3.14159265
June 16, 2009 6:10 PM
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@greenunicorns: Milk comes out of a cow too, is milk beef?

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pecan 3.14159265
June 16, 2009 6:42 PM
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@Powerlurker: But you can also make butter out of other kinds of milk, like goat's milk. The point is, you can't say that butter is made from milk from a cow, so that makes it kind of close to beef and then by that logic, say that milk isn't kind of close to beef.

Do vegans eat butter because it comes from milk which comes from an animal?

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SabreDC
June 16, 2009 8:12 PM
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@pecan 3.14159265: But then you can apply the same logic to fat. Beef is the tissue. Fat is the fat. You can get fat from lots of animals besides the cow.

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Moosehawk
June 16, 2009 4:46 PM
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At least KFC isn't involved in a large scale meth dealing network.

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Laura Northrup
June 18, 2009 7:05 AM
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@Moosehawk: Well played. The initial shock when he shows up at the DEA reminds me of why I love TV.

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Aphex242
June 16, 2009 5:16 PM
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@Moosehawk: Woot! Nice Breaking Bad reference. lol

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NoWireHangers
June 16, 2009 4:47 PM
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Oh, Steve. Your ad campaign is the equivalent of informing McDonalds connoisseurs that McNuggets aren't made from free range, organic chicken.

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davidc
June 16, 2009 6:03 PM
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@NoWireHangers: No, it's more like informing McDonalds connoisseurs that McNuggets are fried in Beef Flavored Oil.

Oh wait ... isn't that what McDonalds does to their fries and didn't it cause a HUGE firestorm?

No news here huh?

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Coles_Law
June 16, 2009 9:47 PM
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@david.c: They used to, but have since stopped, and their fries are as vegetarian as something in a McDonalds can be. However, their hashbrowns do have beef flavoring added.

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RedwoodFlyer
June 17, 2009 12:25 AM
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@Coles_Law: Nope, they still use beef seasoning - the only thing that's changed is they now disclose it

[nutrition.mcdonalds.com]

French Fries:
Potatoes, vegetable oil (canola oil, hydrogenated soybean oil, natural beef flavor [wheat and milk derivatives]*, citric acid [preservative]), dextrose, sodium acid pyrophosphate (maintain color), salt. Prepared in vegetable oil ((may contain one of the following: Canola oil, corn oil, soybean oil, hydrogenated soybean oil with TBHQ and citric acid added to preserve freshness), dimethylpolysiloxane added as an antifoaming agent).
CONTAINS: WHEAT AND MILK *(Natural beef flavor contains hydrolyzed wheat and hydrolyzed milk as starting ingredients).

How I loathe commenters who like to pretend they know wtf they're talking about.

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KingPsyz
June 18, 2009 7:44 PM
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@RedwoodFlyer: french fries should have three ingredients only


Potato, residual frying oil, salt

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henwy
June 16, 2009 9:25 PM
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@david.c:

It is now news. Mcdonalds got in trouble because it didn't list it as an ingredient in the fries. KFC obviously did or pollo wouldn't even have known about it in the first place. Thus, no problem. No firestorm. Read the damn ingredients.

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ChuckECheese
June 16, 2009 4:54 PM
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And don't get me started on chicken fried steak.

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cash_da_pibble
June 16, 2009 11:58 PM
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@ChuckECheese:
No please.
Do get started on the Chicken Fried Steak.
I want to have it for dinner!


mm. with biscuits and gravy...
*drools*

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Kishi
June 16, 2009 7:08 PM
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@ChuckECheese: I know! I was so mad when I found out that it wasn't actually fried by chickens, presumably, in little chef hats.

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HogwartsAlum
June 17, 2009 1:04 AM
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@Kishi:

LOL!!! Oh the little picture in my head at that...

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CyGuy
June 16, 2009 4:56 PM
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It's also not like there wasn't a clear example as to why this was a problem already existing in the industry with the enormous outpouring of grief that was hurled at McDonald's for including beef suet in their French Fry oil.

For KFC to claim it was adequately disclosed by burying it on a PDF on their website MIGHT satisfy some jury is someone with a beef allergy goes into anaphylactic shock, but it is not going to satisfy community outrage by people who don't eat red meat (or only eat halal/kosher red meat) when they find out KFC was pulling this stunt. If it's such a small component of the recipe, then why can't a non-meat alternative be found? Can't they use chicken flavoring and chicken fat? Or Soy?

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eb0nyknight
June 18, 2009 1:10 PM
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@CyGuy: Sorry, but I don't see the outrage. I am allergic to nuts. Sometimes I go to a restaurant and there are nuts in the meal, etc. Am I going to be outraged that they have the audacity to use nuts or is it my fault for not asking in advance?

Or even worse yet expecting that a restaurant chain will cater to my beliefs and serve what I want.

Sorry, but when you eat out, you take your chances.

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greenunicorns
June 16, 2009 5:58 PM
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@CyGuy: I actually have a fairly severe chicken allergy. For those of you who have not considered this, chicken is in almost everything.

It is quite common that I will eat a hamburger, and have a chicken reaction. Why? Because the burger was fried on a pan that chicken was fried in.

It's annoying as shit to not be able to trust the food that contains \"no chicken\" but I have learned to deal with it.

Allergic to beef? You'll get no sympathy from me. Plenty of places are totally free of beef because it's more expensive. Try finding a place that makes burgers but does not also serve fried chicken, or fried fish (I am allergic to fish as well).

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YouInTheBack
June 16, 2009 4:57 PM
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If the beef flavors are so important to the seasoning, why does it only make up 0.2% of the mix? At that amount, if you took it out altogether, I highly doubt a single person could tell the difference.

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ChuckECheese
June 16, 2009 10:55 PM
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@YouInTheBack: 0.2% is a small amount, but these natural flavors are usually synthesized from natural ingredients (which is why the FDA allows them to be called natural). They are very potent and can be detected in foods in the parts per billion range.

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SabreDC
June 16, 2009 8:16 PM
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@YouInTheBack: 0.2% by volume is not 0.2% of taste. I bet you can at 0.2% of some spices -- habenero for example -- and you'll know. There are plenty of spices that make up less than a percent of the overall volume but add plenty of taste.

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greenunicorns
June 16, 2009 6:00 PM
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@YouInTheBack:

Yes, clearly they added it because they are beef mongers who will stop at nothing to contaminate everything with beef!

And clearly there are no important ingredients in anything that make up .2% or less. They are only added for fun!

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CumaeanSibyl
June 16, 2009 5:55 PM
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@YouInTheBack: Didn't McDonald's have a similar problem a few years back when they were making their fries with beef? I believe they rejiggered the formula to make it vegetarian and nobody really noticed.

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AKAJBuddha
June 16, 2009 5:06 PM
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@YouInTheBack:
I guess it wouldn't be a big deal... exscept for someone like me who is actually allergic to beef and having that on there would make me ill...

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MeOhMy
June 16, 2009 5:00 PM
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Aside from the person who for one reason or another is choosing not to eat beef, I don't think it's \"wrong.\" \"Weird,\" perhaps.


Other commenters have said things like \"I don't season my chicken at home with beef.\"


Maybe your homemade chicken would be THAT much better with a nice li'l rub of MSG and beef fat. You won't know until you try :-)

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CumaeanSibyl
June 16, 2009 5:55 PM
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@Troy F.: Man, I actually use MSG in my cooking. It's so great. Fortunately, I haven't run into anybody who has a sensitivity yet...

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MeOhMy
June 17, 2009 2:39 PM
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@CumaeanSibyl: My wife's grandmother makes a really good beef tenderloin. I once asked her what was the secret...she leaned in close and whispered in my ear:


\"I sprinkle Accent all over it!\"

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craptastico
June 16, 2009 6:53 PM
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@CumaeanSibyl: MSG is the victim of a smear campaign. I watched something on the food network where they tested it, and unanimously the judges, who were trained chefs, found that food tasted better with it. They also split a room in half and gave half food with, and half food without MSG, and determined that only around 1% of people actually had reaction to it. Most of the people who claimed to be allergic were full of it.

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CumaeanSibyl
June 18, 2009 5:35 PM
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@craptastico: Right. Some people do have a sensitivity, but then there are people who are sensitive/allergic to just about anything that exists. I know more people who are sensitive to aspartame.

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RvLeshrac
June 16, 2009 9:35 PM
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@craptastico:


MSG is primarily extracted from seaweed, and is present in nearly all asian food.


The net effect of MSG is to increase your sensitivity to the other flavors in food. You can add it to pretty much anything and it will seem to intensify the flavors.


An interesting thing to do is to just taste a tiny amount of MSG alone. The horrific flavor you'll experience is actually what your mouth tastes like.

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CyGuy
June 16, 2009 7:58 PM
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@craptastico: Well, technically you can't be allergic to it as it is a chemical and not a protein, but you can be sensitive to as glutamates are part of the electrolytes in our nervous system. Eating too much can give sensitive people terrible headaches - but no, they shouldn't die.

The original problem with MSG was back in the 70's some Chinese restaurants heavily loaded their food with MSG, thus the phrase \"Chinese Restaurant Syndrome.\" But no Chinese food is MSG free as some is naturally occurring in soy sauce and tamari.

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RedwoodFlyer
June 17, 2009 12:27 AM
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@CyGuy:
I love when people make a big fuss about how allergic they are...until I point out that the Doritos they're eating are chock full of yummy sodium glutamates!

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CaptainSemantics
June 16, 2009 5:03 PM
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Does this make beef stock the new MSG?

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greenunicorns
June 16, 2009 6:02 PM
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@CaptainSemantics:

No, while delicious, beef fat will never rival MSG's deliciousness.

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Megalomania
June 16, 2009 5:04 PM
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Who cares? If people like the taste then they like the taste. Maybe if you \"can't\" eat beef due to your religion then you might have a moment of existential crisis, but I feel that if your religious beliefs stipulate what you can and can't eat then you should make your own food. After all, if it's that important to you, then you shouldn't leave it to chance (if this was raw chicken being sold, then I would agree that no beef should be present in whatever form).

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greenunicorns
June 16, 2009 6:05 PM
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@Megalomania:

Amen brother. I have severe food allergies that are kind of rare. It makes it hard for me to go out to eat. But you know what? I don't NEED to eat out. It's a treat. If you are making food that I can't eat, then I can either find out the hard way or cook my own food.

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Blue387
June 16, 2009 5:09 PM
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Wasn't there a big controversy over McDonald's cooking their fries in beef stock or something years ago?

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fantomesq
June 19, 2009 12:57 AM
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@Blue387: Yes primarily by vegetarians as I remember... fewer vegetarians will be eating KFC chicken :)

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MaytagRepairman
June 16, 2009 5:30 PM
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@Blue387: Yes, beef tallow. [en.wikipedia.org] I don't think they were the only company doing it but I don't have references for that.

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Simon Lin
June 16, 2009 5:13 PM
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It's KFC! What do you expect?

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chocogray
June 16, 2009 5:15 PM
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@Simon Lin:

pretty much what I was thinking

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Chuck Thorne
June 16, 2009 5:26 PM
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I can see the issue for Hindus (they freaked when they found out McDonald's fries had beef extract- yes, fried potatoes with beef juice) and it certainly doesn't pass the WTF test. It also means that if there's a beef-borne illness and people switch to chicken, they are still at risk.

As a meat-eater, beefy chicken (beecken? chickeef?) is close to the perfect animal. If there's a way to splice in bacon DNA....

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MaytagRepairman
June 16, 2009 5:46 PM
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@Chuck Thorne: I think pepperoni is the perfect animal - contains beef, pork, and chicken.

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SkittleKicks
June 16, 2009 5:51 PM
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Now, if they would just get rid of the wheat in their seasonings, I'd be all set...

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linkura
June 16, 2009 6:05 PM
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My fiance is allergic to beef that isn't cooked well done (has to do with a protein, I believe). Idiots.

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June 16, 2009 6:10 PM
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this is terrible! i dont eat beef (havent in decades) but thankfully i dont eat kfc either :)

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Borax-Johnson
June 16, 2009 6:18 PM
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As a practicing Beegan (I only eat beef) I welcome this news.


Remember, if God had intended us to be vegetarians, He wouldn't have made animals out of meat.

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KingPsyz
June 18, 2009 7:48 PM
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@Borax-Johnson:
I'll be forwarding the bill for my occular seperation shortly

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Skankingmike
June 16, 2009 6:26 PM
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KFC Food Creation Specialist: You got beef in my chicken!

Random Guy: You got chicken in my beef!

KFC marketing : GRILLED CHICKEN* (now with more beef flavor!)

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pecan 3.14159265
June 16, 2009 7:05 PM
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Now lets all get together for some turducken. At least that's all in the fowl family.

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lehrdude
June 16, 2009 7:45 PM
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Please pass the bacon-salt!!!

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sanjsrik
June 16, 2009 9:16 PM
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Is it just me or is the name \"Steve Carley\" just not very Spanish?

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Smashville
June 16, 2009 9:18 PM
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You know what would make this better?


Bacon.

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XianZomby
June 16, 2009 10:09 PM
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Beef byproducts are in all kinds of things: soap, shampoo, flavorings, medication, etc:


[www.askthemeatman.com]


If it's a surprise you're getting beef byproducts in something, you haven't been paying attention.

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Rectilinear Propagation
June 17, 2009 1:12 PM
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If it's a surprise you're getting beef byproducts in something, you haven't been paying attention.

@XianZomby: Paying attention to what? Did I miss the class in elementary school on how shampoo is made out of beef?

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Hitchcock
June 16, 2009 11:03 PM
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My wife is allergic to red meat. In small doses it makes her vomit. In larger doses it makes it so she can't breath.

She didn't have any problems with the KFC chicken. I'm guessing that .2% of the seasonings (which are sprinkled on the chicken) aren't enough to cause a reaction.

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HogwartsAlum
June 17, 2009 1:05 AM
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Instead of the cola wars, it's the Chicken Wars!

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baristabrawl
June 17, 2009 2:49 AM
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Who cares? If you're eating this shit you probably can't read anyway.

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outinthedark
June 17, 2009 3:57 AM
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Wow no comments on El Pollo Loco?

If anyone has eaten there it's f'in cafeteria food...disgusting horrible crap...at least the franchise in Winter Park, FL is...have stayed far far away from the one that just recently opened up in Virginia Beach, VA for fear of more slop passed off as edible food.

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Brian James Schend
June 17, 2009 4:40 AM
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Wait, \"grilled\" doesn't seem right. Shouldn't \"chicken\" be in quotes?

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suburbancowboy
June 17, 2009 5:53 PM
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The grilled chicken is also loaded with MSG.

Healthy my ass.

Actually, most of the menu at KFC has MSG in it.

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Anonymous
June 18, 2009 3:43 AM
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This is rediculous!I do not eat beef, or any other red meat, only chicken and fish and to hear that a company puts beef in their CHICKEN products is appalling.However, on the other hand, i don't touch KFC, so it doesn't really make a difference. But for others like me, who don't eat beef, this is ridiculous.

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Aaron Sawatzky
June 18, 2009 5:49 AM
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I cook, a LOT, and using seasonings/broths from one animal one intended for another animal is not uncommon, and in some cases, highly encouraged.

I use chicken broth when making pork stir-fry

Oh, did I mention I'm trained in the Culinary Arts and going off to a Culinary Art's school for 2 years in the next few months?

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JulesNoctambule
June 19, 2009 9:41 PM
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@Aaron Sawatzky: Do they teach you the proper application of the apostrophe at the 'Culinary Art's school'?

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Anonymous
June 18, 2009 4:10 PM
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The surprising thing in this story is that there is chicken in KFC food.

BTW, I believe the reason that McD's put beef juice in their fries is because they earned their reputation for the best fries in the early days of the corporation when they cooked french fries in beef tallow. Now they use various vegetable oils, and the fries are a shadow of their former glory.

I am allergic to milk products. I ask about them wherever I go. If you have a reason to not eat some foods, it is your responsibility to ask about their presence in food you didn't make. It is also the responsibility of food makers to clearly state what is in their food if asked.

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Matthew Dillon
June 18, 2009 8:47 PM
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Reminiscent of the McDonald's fries scandal... which came about for the same reason this did... BEEF IS TASTY.

Get off your high horses and get over yourselves. Fast food is only marginally \"food\" at best. If you're honestly concerned about what you're actually eating, you don't eat fast food in the first place.

If it's tasty, eat it. Beef is tasty, it should be in everything. Along with bacon.

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JulesNoctambule
June 19, 2009 9:42 PM
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@Matthew Dillon: I guess beef is tasty. . .if it doesn't make you vomit thanks to an unusual sensitivity. I'll never know.

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