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\"Bloomberg notes that \"take-out sales of alcoholic beverages tumbled 9.3 percent in the fourth quarter...\"
I don't affect this stat at all; I drink my alcohol before I leave the store.
@dddoistutter: @Trai_Dep:
I got you both beat- I buy the alcohol, and pour it straight down the urinal.
Cuts out the middleman.
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Hey, I'm doing my part...
@TheRealAbsurdist: Me too!
I think I'm going to finish seeking the dividends that my 6 pack investment in Dogfish head beer will reap!
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Beer sales down? Perhaps people are trading up to something with a little more bang for the buck?
@rpm773: Actually, I thought I read something a month or so ago that said that sales on hard liquer were actually increasing.
@b.k.: When Mr. Taco used to have three tacos for $1.89, I used to crush nine of them at one sitting. And yes, while their taco sauce might not have been hot or super-flavorful, it was somehow perfect.
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@Yoko Broke Up The Beatles: It was a regional taco place in Michigan. They had their own brand of sauce in little packets that made the perhaps-not-greatest-grade quality of meat they used a thing to overlook. They went under about four years ago. Plus as Helldog mentioned, they were ridiculously cheap, which meant that if you were a college student in the 80's and 90's, Mr. Taco was a main source of sustenance.
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anybody want to make a correlation to the belgian invasion?
@mac-phisto: I don't think InBev has had enough time to mismanage Anheuser-Busch out of existence yet. Give it time.
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I don't know. I'm in Oklahoma so alcohol laws really suck. But my purchases haven't changed
@zacwax:
As a fellow Okie, I agree. Beer prices have also risen over time. I always buy the good stuff anyway, but these days, I brew at home. If you're in the OKC area, there's a good brewing store on thirty-something and Penn.
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I wonder what different distribution channels that chart takes into account. Specifically if it includes warehouse stores such as Costco. As the recession has gone on I've found myself buying my beer and wine mostly from Costco to save some money, even if it narrows down my selection. I wonder if others are doing the same and that is making the chart look worse.
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I have yet to find a good alcohol deal other than the Kirkland vodka at Costco. All the beer \"deals\" are about .50-1 dollar more expensive than the local store.
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Maybe people can't justify an expense that is totally frivolous when they are concerned that they will be part of that next scary headline ?
Ya think ?
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@Snarkysnake:
People will cling to things that make them feel comfortable, even if those things are not good and/or expensive (cigarettes, booze, food, etc...) Such is the nature of addiction.
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@Snarkysnake: people are buying cheaper stuff, add to it that every shop owner has been scared into having sales all the time.
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@Snarkysnake: I've never understood why some people justify alcohol as a necessary expense. If you cut eating out in the name of saving money, why not stop buying alcohol too? I had friends who were going \"woe is me, I have no money,\" and keep buying beer along with their bread.
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@pecan 3.14159265: If you go to any low-income or depressed area - ghettos, hick towns, Indian reservations, and the like - you will find an abundance of liquor stores and drunks. Liquor is a way to forget about your poverty. Going to restaurants isn't. That's why.
@youbastid: Low income areas aside...for people who look at alcohol as a social event, I just wonder why they think they're so smart if they keep buying the one thing that costs the most, and isn't necessary for nutrition.
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In my state, it might be that damn dirty new alcohol sales tax. We had bourbon distillers pourin' out whiskey on the capital steps in protest, and beer trucks circling the city.
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Beer prices here are waaaaaaaay up. Might have something to do with it.
@oldtaku: Beer prices have been increasing steadily for a while, and primarily for reasons other than the financial crisis: Now that more farmers are growing corn for biodiesel, fewer farmers are growing the barley and other grains used to make beer, making them scarcer and more expensive. There's also been a significant hop shortage over the last two years that drove hop prices sky-high, and forced many smaller breweries to change their recipes or go out of business entirely.
So yeah, just as the American craft brewery movement's started to really take off, the market's decided to go and kick it in the nuts. Pisses me off.
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@oldtaku: Tell me about it. A case of Sam Adams goes for $32 near me. $32!!
Give me my Yeungling...Light...cause I don't need to get fat while drunk and depressed....(hic).
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Sam Adams. Now there is a good beer, but it's time they bring the price down. They're no longer a Micro-Brew or Craft Beer. There is no reason for their beer to cost just the same as DogFishHead or likes of.
I can no longer afford craft beers and micro brews. I can barely afford Bud Light. I've had to move on to cheap rum. $14 a half gallon or $16 for a 24 pack. What would you choose?
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I've started brewing my own beer. It's cheap, easy, fun and makes 5 gallons at a time. Party at my house.
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@slater:
I always found that the best part of making your own beer is the satisfaction of getting drunk on your own creation.
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@pecan 3.14159265: Here is more than everything you need to know, and here is some more resources. There may be more but I don't run with that crowd so much anymore since I hit the limits of work I'm willing to do for homebrew a while ago.
Finding your local microbrew store, about $70, and some extra space will set you up with the basics.
@Applekid: There are some great places to order from online too, such as NorthernBrewer. They sell basic \"starter\" kits with low shipping costs, and have some really good ingredient kits so you can start brewing right away. If you want to use glass carboys, though, definitely try to buy them locally, because shipping on those things is a bastard and a half.
I've been brewing for a year now and it's fun as hell, not to mention really satisfying when you open a bottle of something good and say, \"Hey, I made this.\"
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That's dreadful. I'm heading out the Lone Star here in San Francisco to do my part, right after I finish typing this.
I find this odd, because usually in times where money is tight liquor sales go up. Then again, when I was at the grocery store a few weeks ago Sam Adams 12 packs were ON SALE for $18.
$18!!!!! After discount!
I'm glad I live in a state with sane alcohol laws (MO). 18 dollars for a 12 pack is nuts. What state are you living in that taxes booze that badly? It is 6-8 bucks here. I gladly pay $18 for a 5th of mid-shelf liquor. Which can be sold anywhere here. We have few liquor stores because grocery stores and gas stations can sell anything (including wal-mart).
$18 a 12 pack for even Sam Adams is high, but Sam Adams in an overpriced beer to begine with. It's a little over $8 a six pack in my neck of the wodds, and can bet it's near the same in your area. They sell their beer for about $2 more than it's worth.
People are either resorting to brewing their own or making bathtub moonshine.
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@jozhua: When a bunch of my friends lost their jobs this summer, they all ended up getting pregnant. I think you'll see a baby boom and an alcohol sales spike in mid 2009.
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@jozhua: I've actually cut down on the home brewing also. The material costs is about $35 for 5 gallons of beer (around 2 cases). I think it's time to brew again though.
My own anecdotal experience contradicts this story. A relative who works at an independent local liquor store recently told me that sales are steady.
Her theory is that people tend not to eliminate petty luxuries even in tough times. People might skip going out to dinner but will pick up a couple bottles of wine instead. Also, a lot of drinkers are intensely brand-loyal and as a result don't trade down to save money.
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@JiminyChristmas: If anything, I've been drinking more the past few month - although I haven't been brand loyal at all. High gravity Imperial Stouts have been replaced with $3.99 six-packs of Trader Joe's lager or cheap ass wine from the grocery store.
I'm not drinking every night, and when I do drink, I'm not typically getting tanked, but I've definitely increased the drinking as the economy tanks. And I'm pretty sure there's a direct correlation to that.
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@JiminyChristmas: I work in a distribution center that distributes booze. And cheap vodka is doing a-okay! As are some lower-end beers and wines.
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@JiminyChristmas: I've got hard evidence to back this anecdote up; I work in a large wine and liquor store, and we're up about 20% year-over-year at our site in gross volume. Chain-wide, I think we're up something like 10-15%.
People don't drink out as much during recessions, they don't eat out, so they buy their wine and booze for home consumption. When two bottles of beer at a bar costs the same as a six-pack at home, drinking at home is a good way to tighten the metaphorical belt. Yes, some segments are down (wine over $50 is pretty slow right now, for example), but overall, we're pretty busy in the liquor business.
@corkdork: I'm glad you had those numbers - I know my friends and I have cut back a lot on going out for drinks and dinner on the weekends, opting for movie nights and dinner at home. Instead of buying a $20-$30 bottle of wine at a restaurant, we'll pick up a couple of $10 at the liquor store.
I blame Bush...or Obama. My drinking drastically dropped after the election. I have to wonder if that explained some of the change in consumption.
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@bohemian: OTOH, some of us have substantially increased our drinking since the election...but apparently we're not quite making up the difference.
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It was just horrible timing in my case. I've got enough money for beer - sadly, I was recently diagnosed with celiac disease. No more beer for me & there's not much else in the way of alcohol that I actually like drinking. :(
@grumpygirl: my husband also has celiac disease. Redbridge and cider are his weapons of choice. New Grist, Bards Tale, Ramapo Valley Honey Passover and a few other micros are also great, but expensive.
And while jvandub is right about the vodka thing (Kettle One or Ciroc are best bets) you also have to watch out for some wines, too. We always wondered why wines would occasionally bring on a reaction, and it turns out that some yeast blends are germinated on a gluten base. After they are harvested and used to ferment other spirits, they transfer the gluten they were grown on. It takes some getting used to and isn't an easy thing to live with--good luck!
Yeah plenty of beers are made with rice. Check it yo! I believe Budweiser is too? I may be mistaken, it may just mostly be rice. You can also drink vodka, watch out for a lot are made with grain, not potatoes. Try Monopolova it's potato and not too spendy.
@grumpygirl: There are a number of gluten-free beers you may be able to have. Anheuser-Busch makes one called \"Redbridge,\" and Lakefront Brewing makes one called \"New Grist.\" Might be hard to find (or a special order), but it's beer you can have :)
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@grumpygirl: Sorry :(. Does your Dr think you can have other joys like Mary Jane or magic mushrooms?
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I'm sorry, America. It's my fault. My ob is SOOOOO rigid that way. :P
(No, srsly, notable decline in grocery bills since I got pregnant. Hadn't realized quite how much we spent on alcohol!)
@Eyebrows McGee: Haha, June's alcohol bills between the grocery store and two nights out in the city were $375 for the two of us. Then we got pregnant in July and that dropped to $0. The savings went into a daycare fund--figured it was best to set aside now so we can resume our bad habits this summer without too much budget shock.
Damn, go into Trader Joe's Wine on 14th St--trust me, the people are buying booze. I've noticed a dramatic upsurge in crowds since the economy tanked.
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@GirlCat: I haven't been able to find any of the two buck Chuck (though it's admittedly three here) in ages. People have been tearing through the cheaper wines at TJ's and even the cheap vodka. It has been making the prospects of sangria a lot less thrifty.
I mostly quit drinking a month or two ago as part of a general health initiative. One or two a week is my limit now, whereas I believe I was singlehandedly supporting the state of Kentucky previously.
Less people are giving money to bums and winos, the majority drinking population of the US ;O
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The BEA chart is actually quite fascinating. Want to know about the fluctuating sales of luggage for men? Sure you do. [www.bea.gov]
Looks to me like the drop is on a par with the \"purchased meals\" (restaurant and takeout, presumably) drop, so it's probably part of a larger cutback behavior.
The big dip in 1991-2 is when I (1. Turned 21 and didn't just down 10-12 beers at a fraternity party; 2. graduated from college.)
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I think it's just increased beer prices combined with the economy if this is the case.
@johnva: Yeah, I think the pricing has reached that tipping point where people simply don't buy.
It seems people's taste in beer is getting more and more sophisticated too. The $3.50 six pack of Old Style is just not good enough to buy anymore and the $8.00 six pack of Spotted Cow is just too expensive.
Well, at my grocery store (Giant), Heineken is $10 a 6-pack. I'd start with that as the problem.
Svedka Vodka seems to be a hot item right now. I've seen it sold out a few times already. In a few more months, skol vodka will probably be in the same situation. Desperate times call for desperate measures.
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@Corporate_guy:
I like Svedka...it's cheap without being disgusting or hangover-inducing. That said, I am not a vodka expert, I just know what doesn't get me sick.
@Corporate_guy: i say you can't go wrong with stolichnaya. $24.99/1.75ml.
although lately, i've been drinking a lot of don julio blanco (tequila). i dunno how the guy does it, but he's selling 1.75ml bottles for $50. everywhere else, that's the price for the 750ml.
can't pass up that deal!
I am doing my best to reverse this trend. Cheers!
My beer drinking has dropped some, not because I'm denying myself of pleasure, but because I drink more expensive beer and I'm tightening my budget some and alcohol is the easiest expense to cut. Combine that with it being winter, I haven't bought myself a case of beer in months, whereas I used to buy at least on a month.
However, Philadelphia Beer Week is fast approaching. So I'm planning on splurging then.
12 pack PBR or PBR light. $5.97 in VA.
In a bad economy, people tend to trade down. The article states the $ value has declined, but doesn't mention volume. So, instead of Sam Adams and Chimay, people are drinking Natural Light, and Bush. In terms of alcohol, that Grey Goose is being replaced by Absolute and the Absolute drinkers are switching to Popov.
I'd be interested to see how the volume is impacted, and if more people are hanging out at bars (the article references take-home sales), since misery loves company.
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I'm not German and I'm a teetotaler but damn I love Oktoberfests. Hot blond girls with their bossoms falling out. What more could a man want?
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I notice that the chart is showing overall beer sales, i.e. the amount of money spent on beer rather than the volume of beer consumed.
Maybe people are just going for the cheaper stuff instead of the pricy import or microbrew.
I work for a Big Box/Pharmacy that also sells booze (I don't work for the retail side). Anyway, cheap vodka sales? Doin' just fiiiine.
I don't see how people are getting through this without drinking.
Though I've cut back expenses and calories this year, I still buy about one bottle of wine per week. We're not talking Chateau Rothschild, though.
@picardia:
One bottle?! My goodness, that's just a starter kit. When i'm in the mood, one bottle of wine would be a joke.
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a manifestation of Calvinist guilt over both the present failures of the economy and its prior excesses. A deliberate effort to deny oneself pleasure.
Clearly a statement created by a corporate shill earning $40k/year with a philosophy degree.
How about, booze is merely a luxury people can't afford. No guilt involved. Why drop $20 at the bar on Friday night when it can be better served toward rent or utility bills?
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This might have a lot to do with me graduating college.. sorry America.
I can see a direct correlation here between the Oregon Smoking Ban and the sales of alcohol. I know I've stopped drinking as much due to this ban, not sure if it's economic b/c my income is still the same but I used to drink a few times a week when i could smoke, now I'm down to once a week, if that! Plus we do drink a lot of alcohol here.
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I can't speak for anyone myself, but I can tell you that Red Stripe sales have probably gone up 12%. When I see a 12-pack for $12, it's time to pick it up. Boo bad economy...hooray beer!
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One reason for the increase in beer prices is, farmers have been increasing corn production for use as ethanol. Because of this, production of hops, and barley has decreased making those commities more expensive. We apparently have two choices, cleaner fuels or cheaper beer.
I say screw the enviorment.
I'm not sure John Calvin has much to do with anything in main stream America these days especially our beer consumption.
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I'm surprised...I figured that in a recession we'd see (a) alcohol, (b) movie, (c) videogame sales all increase as people try to escape from reality...
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That's odd, liquor sales are UP in Canada...
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You would think that the tendency would be for people to drink their money problems away (for $8, you can forget it ever happened.... until tomorrow).
@coold8: Ha - that study couldn't possibly have included New Yorkers. Though one of the biggest drinkers I know lost his job and proclaimed he was \"over alcohol.\"