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January 16, 2009 2:32 PM

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I'll admit I added to those figures. I bought myself a Wii and a few games this holiday season and it was my first video game purchase since my parents got me a Super Nintendo. BUT! I think it's a great economical answer for cold, cheap weekends. Friends can get together and be entertained for hours basically for free. It pays for itself rather quickly. I'd also like to see the sales for $1 Redbox. I think they're probably not too bad off either.

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January 16, 2009 4:32 PM

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@TinkishDelight: same here, although i purchased an XBox and PSP with 13+ games for each system.

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brent_r

January 16, 2009 3:42 PM

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@TinkishDelight: I love redbox!

I sure hope their sales numbers are good.

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January 16, 2009 3:09 PM

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@TinkishDelight: My bf and I bought a Wii last summer, and since then got some games. It's also really great to first go to places like Hollywood Videos or Blockbuster to rent the games and see if you like them before you spend $50 on them. Then, if you like them, go on ebay and buy them. That's how I got Elebits for the Wii, super cute game. For friends coming over, it'd be great if one of them owned a Wii and can bring 2 more controllers while you take out Mario Party 8 to play.

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Ash78 ain't got time to bleed

January 16, 2009 2:32 PM

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I'd have to say no. Video games taught me a level of rage and frustration as a young kid that nothing else could match. As an adult, I can see the allure, but it's the same allure as drinking beer all day. I'd love it, but I'd ultimately hate myself.

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ViolentBeauregarde

January 16, 2009 8:15 PM

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@Ash78: Drinking beer all day is what makes video games fun :)

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calquist

January 16, 2009 3:26 PM

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@Ash78: True story: My brother broke his collarbone after falling off the back of the couch in a fit of rage over Donkey Kong Country 3.

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January 16, 2009 3:23 PM

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@Ash78: How dare you put down drinking beer. It is what built this country!

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quail

January 16, 2009 3:13 PM

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@Ash78: You are the type of market that the Wii goes after. Their approach was to make video games fun for people who don't like video games.

This thinking also has spilled over a bit in the other systems as well. 'Little Big Planet' for the PS3 is a bit of an obstacle course/puzzle game. People who never liked video games (eg. my wife) find that they love it. Best yet, there's no special combos to remember and you can build your own levels and share them online.

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January 16, 2009 3:11 PM

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@Ash78: Yeah, I'm not much of a gamer since my patience level is small when it comes to doing something over and over again since I keep dying in the games...but there are some games that are worth it, it's just better to rent them first to see if you like them. That way you get to play a bunch of games, and the ones you really like, you can get for cheap on ebay.

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January 16, 2009 2:50 PM

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@Ash78: If you check out more modern games, the frustration level is almost universally WAY lower than it was in the NES/SMS/SNES/Genesis days.

Most games now let you save between levels or even during levels, so you rarely have to play through something long and repetitive that you have mastered a hundred times because you can't beat a boss (Damn you, Jaquio). Some do force you to sit through long, boring cut-scenes, though. Also, modern games in general just tend to be easier in general than what you played as a child.

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MeOhMy

January 16, 2009 2:40 PM

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@Ash78: I am in much the same boat. As an adult now I choose games very carefully to find ones that are not frustrating. I got tired of spending 2 hours playing only to find myself more irritated and un-relaxed than I was when I started!

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Eyebrows McGee (now with more baby!)

January 16, 2009 4:04 PM

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@Troy F.: Come teach this skill to my husband. He'll be getting really frustrated at a game and all pissed at it, and I'm saying, \"WHY ARE YOU STILL PLAYING? It's supposed to be fun and you're all worked up and pissed off!\"

\"Because I Must. Beat. This. Level ......\"

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Ash78 ain't got time to bleed

January 16, 2009 2:48 PM

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@Troy F.: I also learned the hard way about something called the \"Final Fantasy Timewarp\"

9am: \"Hold on, I'll come have breakfast in a minute\"
10am: \"Why do I have a beard now? And why haven't I eaten in over 25 hours?\"

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January 17, 2009 11:23 AM

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@Ash78: HAHAHA! noooo kidding.

of course, i had that problem even without consoles or computer games. we used to have a wicked arcade downtown when i was in college - there were a few times i walked in there after my 9:00am class, lost track of time & by the time i walked out, the dining halls were serving dinner. :{

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Blaaaah

January 16, 2009 2:32 PM

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Getting a good quality game for roughly 40-50 bucks once a month or so (depending on replayability and online play) will encourage me to stay home and play as opposed to going out and spending money on alcohol. However, there are folks who tear through games- for those folks, I'd recommend GameFly.

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January 16, 2009 3:12 PM

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@Blaaaah: I'd recommend ebay. Just got a game that would cost me normally $30 at the store (and the store was out of it anyways) for about $11 on ebay for my Wii. But yeah, renting before owning is a must for me, since I'm super picky.

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January 16, 2009 3:31 PM

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@katiat325: I'd recommend usenet.

But um, you didn't hear that from me.

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January 16, 2009 2:33 PM

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Instead of going to bars and watching movies in theaters, we're drinking PBR in the living room and playing Guitar Hero.

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The Cynical Librarian

January 16, 2009 3:19 PM

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@summerbee: I'm right there with you. Only replace Guitar Hero with Castle Crashers, and PBR with... well that one pretty much stays the same.

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cynical_bastard

January 16, 2009 2:34 PM

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Video games are alot cheaper than going to the pool hall every night...

It adds up when you start drinking there!

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January 16, 2009 2:37 PM

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None of the choices really apply to me. I just recently got a 360 because 1. Microsoft dropped the price and 2. It got to the point where all the next gen games were no longer released for my original Xbox. I think the surge in sales is mostly driven by the Wii appealing to non-gamers and the 360's price drop ensnaring all of the budget conscious games that were holding out. Then, of course, game sales will follow.

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Jevia

January 16, 2009 7:02 PM

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@quagmire0: Spot on. That's exactly the same reasons I got one for my husband for Christmas. Also made it easy for me to tell my and his family of what to get him for Christmas, lots of xbox 360 games. Should keep him occupied for a good while.

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Brontide

January 16, 2009 2:40 PM

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In terms of hours of entertainment per dollar nothing really beats a good video game for non-hardcore gamers.

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January 16, 2009 2:41 PM

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No bar can compete with the awesomeness that is Mario Galaxy.

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January 16, 2009 3:16 PM

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@HIV 2 Elway Resurrected: Ah, I do love that game. I've recently taken a break on it though because I keep dying...I find that leaving it alone for a while helps to keep me from falling into those damn black holes as often...

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January 16, 2009 3:16 PM

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@HIV 2 Elway Resurrected: how about that one where he has to run around on luigi to collect the coins and the star, and the squares disappear or start turning over. That was annoying...

However, if you have a 2nd person there with you, the game becomes much easier since that 2nd person can use the 2nd controller to stop some of the bad guys, make Mario jump higher, and collect starbits for you.

Lastly, those Hungry Lumas are the cutest things I've seen!!! I want a plush toy of one, too bad they don't make them.

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January 16, 2009 7:14 PM

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@katiat325: Here's a crotcheted Luma plush by someone on Etsy: [www.etsy.com]

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January 16, 2009 2:48 PM

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@HIV 2 Elway Resurrected: YES!! Although the level where that giant baby flower suddenly wakes up screaming and starts chasing you made me literally jump out of my seat. I thought I would have nightmares.

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January 16, 2009 2:44 PM

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@HIV 2 Elway Resurrected:

Talk to me during the bee level and hear a strongly worded rebuttal! :-)

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January 16, 2009 2:42 PM

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The \"Duh\" comment was right on... Man... movies are way too expensive for the family. Even at a matinee the cost is usually close to $40 for the four of us (2 big, 2 small). Now, compare all the family fun we have playing Guitar Hero and the equation is a no brainer.

Plus we're not sitting in the dark.

Thankfully we also live in the greatest free museum city in the world so that keeps us busy, too. Add to that an inexpensive partial season tix plan for baseball... and kids athletics... and family trips... etc... etc... We hardly have time to see movies! What we want to see we usually see later on DVD, HBO, etc.

Let's see: Movie = $40 -v- Wii game (like the incredible Williams Pinball) =$20-$40. Which one will provide more hours of entertainment?

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January 17, 2009 11:39 AM

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@Ubermunch: is that $40 out-the-door or is that just tix? i've found that once you start adding in a refreshment or two around here, 4 can easily break $100 for a feature film.

luckily, we have a 2nd run theatre down the road - $4 tickets, $2 popcorn/drink. you just have to wait a couple months for something to come out.

i always had more fun at the museum anyway...

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January 16, 2009 6:34 PM

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@Ubermunch: St. Louis, right? I live in the STL as well.

No cable/satellite plan. I miss out on live sports which sucks, but I can catch most of any tv program I wan to watch through various means.

I did not add to the Nintendo numbers because I am in the \"hardcore\" crowd Nintendo has abandoned (I do have a DS though) and my PS360 combo does wonders for me.

January will be a little slow but February will be filled with HADOKEN! (Street Fighter IV.)

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opsomath

January 16, 2009 2:52 PM

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I think video games are the cheapest form of entertainment ever, except possibly getting books from the library (which is also up).

This is largely because I don't insist on having the Latest Thing (tm) being very content with my playstation II. I recently got NCAA Football '05 and Enter the Matrix for a grand total of $3. Hours of entertainment there.

The key to happiness in life is to not let your standards for luxuries drift too high.

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rucksack

January 16, 2009 4:44 PM

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Never mind that many libraries now have huge selections of dvd's - including recent titles in many cases. A couple years ago, I lived in a town of 20,000 people and not only could you take out books and movies, but they had computer software and games and had an in-house video game setup with PS2 and XBox (both top generation at the time).

Libraries rock.

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January 16, 2009 3:27 PM

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@opsomath: Yes, by never buying cutting edge you can do it cheap plus have all the tips and tricks available.

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J. Gov

January 16, 2009 2:57 PM

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None of the poll options really fit me, but it's a good value per hour and doesn't require leaving the house. It's -26 with windchill over here! I'll take any good excuse to stay inside.

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idx

January 16, 2009 3:14 PM

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I haven't really played video games since I was in middle school, but I got a 360 for Christmas and didn't spend any money for 48 hours because I was playing Fable 2. Now I am certain that when Street Fighter 4 comes out next month my house will be a popular destination (and it costs a 6 pack of decent beer to play).

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narq

January 16, 2009 3:16 PM

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Nintendo is close to the end of its road unless they start learning. The recession will soon start killing their sales and they have already alienated the geeks who keep their money flowing in. There is no more christmas and parents don't care anymore.

There have been articles around about Wii shovelware and how it's going the way of Atari. Nintendo's biggest success could be its downfall. If they keep following the path Atari took, which they currently are, then they just might collapse completely. Mark my words, there will be an ET for Wii. If there hasn't been already.

I hate my Wii, I never play it. I hate Nintendo for jumping the bandwagon to casual games and just leaving gamers behind. If it weren't for people like me, the Gamecube would have been their downfall. Nintendo is on a rollercoaster to hell... they just haven't hit the freefall yet. Consumers are getting turned off one by one by all the horribly bad games. I'll stick with my 360, even after two RRoD... I still love it way more than my Wii or DS. I loved the Wii for a few months but crap release after release of mini-games and Petz and Imagine: Stupid Things... I don't like it anymore.

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coren

January 16, 2009 10:20 PM

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@narq: Nintendo's doing the same thing they've been doing for years, and even if all this crap about \"shovelware\" for the Wii turns out to be true, they're still wildly succesful with the DS.

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January 16, 2009 3:55 PM

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@narq: Admittedly, the availability of good games Wii has not lived up to my expectations, but I've definitely managed to keep myself reasonably entertained with the Virtual Console stuff. I enjoy the fact that, for five bucks, I can pick up an old Nintendo game that I haven't played since back in the day (these days, the stars have to be perfectly aligned for my original Nintendo to function). Also, old-school games are usually way more challenging and ultimately more satisfying to beat than their modern counterparts. Finally, the fact that they released a new \"retro\" Mega Man for the Wii is crazy awesome. So, I'll just amuse myself with relics from my past until Nintendo starts coughing up some better titles for the Wii.

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The Cynical Librarian

January 16, 2009 3:33 PM

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@narq: I think you're missing the point of them making money hand over fist the last 2 years. They're no longer too worried about those who only want to play Mario or Zelda games, they're looking wider and it's paying huge dividends for them.

Sorry, but if Nintendo wants to have children and non-gamers playing their system, it's not as if that market ever dries up. There's always going to be children. Look at Disney, they have the kids and they can keep them there with complete crap, and they know it.

Your argument is pointless, as the entire argument seems to be: \"Nintendo stopped making games I like, they suck now\".

I have had a Wii and a DS and didn't really think they worked for me. Sold the DS, still have the Wii for when friends and family come over. I don't hate Nintendo for not making Bioshock; I just realize that they're moving on. I know it's an ugly break up but it'll be better for all of us if we realize it's over.

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narq

January 16, 2009 4:10 PM

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@gyroball: This was the assumption of atari, and look where that got them. It would be one thing if they made great kids games, but they aren't making hardly any games and 3rd parties are releasing hundreds of really bad games. I would agree with you, I won't play the same games an 8yr old would or a casual gamer would... but no one wants to play Barbie Horse Adventures.

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January 16, 2009 6:29 PM

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@narq: Nintendo didn't forget anyone, they've always been family centric. The saw the Microsoft had the \"hardcore gamer\" market pretty locked up and sought to target casual gamers and people who have never played games before instead...and it worked.

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Anonymous

January 16, 2009 3:49 PM

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Sigh, why must it always come to the nintendo has forgotten us argument.

I just want to state my distaste for it.

Nintendo has not forgotten the people who started with them and then left to go to the playstation, they just realize that they need to appeal to a large group to grow.

Until Zelda/Mario become \"MY FIRST PLATFORMER\" I don't see anything wrong.

Also, if any trolls bring up that patent on video help, I must point out that it would be -optional- and not required to beat the game. It would be even nicer, since they can cut down on the braindead helper squads.

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Sam Wille

January 16, 2009 3:20 PM

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Video Games are an excellent source of entertainment, but that damn Live Marketplace is addictive! Nothing draws me in more than to see classic titles I remember playing as a kid, back up in full (and sometimes better looking) than they were in the past.

My friends and I have a hard time getting together with competing schedules, wives and children, and at times (like this week) cold weather. Now that I have [finally] joined the Xbox 360 community I can partake in Live gaming with them. The only thing I don't like is that I'm many years removed from my more competitive gaming days. Kids half my age are running circles around me and trash talking to levels I never reached until the end of high school.

I'm glad, too, that I opted for the 360 over the Wii because of Netflix. As that application matures and more films are offered in HD.....wow. $8.99 a month is wonderful for that.

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Etoiles

January 16, 2009 3:25 PM

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My fiancé and I game together on Sundays (admittedly, we each also play games individually throughout the week) and it's a really cost-efficient way to have fun. A used copy of God of War is $20 or less (and right now we're using a GameFly subscription, so much less) but we got a solid 12-14 hours out of it. Then compare that to $11.25 per person for a two hour movie...

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skwigger

January 16, 2009 3:28 PM

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As many have said above, video games are a cheaper alternative to going out and eating/drinking, movies, pool halls, mini golf (Wii Carnival Games MiniGolf ), and etc.

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January 16, 2009 4:07 PM

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What I want to know is when is Best buy getting wii s back in stock?!?!? I have $335 worth of gift cards to best buy and they have no wii s.
jerks.

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sockrockinbeats

January 16, 2009 4:09 PM

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i am the only person my age (i'm 26) i know who does not like video games. i don't really like any games, to be honest. board games, drinking games, even crossword puzzles...ugh.

i don't know if it's that i lack patience or what, but i get frustrated very easily with games and i don't enjoy them.

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Rob Weddle

January 16, 2009 4:34 PM

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@sockrockinbeats: Just curious: Is your need to compete naturally low as well? Seems like it would be a just correlation...

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komodork

January 16, 2009 4:15 PM

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I feel sorry for all those people who bought the DS this Christmas... Nintendo is going to release their new DS's this year, somewhere near the 2nd or 3rd quarter and I know you will regret buying the one you have right now.

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coren

January 16, 2009 10:21 PM

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@komodork: At the rate Nintendo goes with this, the DSLite won't be outdated until 2011ish, so that investment should be plenty safe

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Ghede

January 16, 2009 5:43 PM

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@komodork: Yes, but the new DS is utter garbage, with a few useless features tacked on and several awesome features removed. Camera? Seriously? Do we need another portable low-res camera? They removed GBA cartridge support as well.

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January 16, 2009 6:36 PM

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@Ghede: Yes the DSi is garbage. Keep your DS Lite so you have the GBA back catelog available to you.

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Rob Weddle

January 16, 2009 4:36 PM

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Bought a PS3 for the wife and the inlaws got us a Wii for Xmas 2008. We also got some games for both as gifts, and have bought accessories and still more games since.

I've spent more time on the Wii playing downloaded ports of NES/SNES games than I've spent playing the Wii games. Playing MegaMan all over again brought back memories of angrily throwing my NES controller at the TV screen. Ha.

Anyways, my point is that games of any kind are a crazy good value.

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January 16, 2009 6:37 PM

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@Rob Weddle: The ONLY really good thing the Wii has going for it IMO is the Virtual Console. Just be careful that the game you're buying isn't part of a disc collection (Genesis games, SNK games, and Metal Slug games especially.)

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January 16, 2009 5:23 PM

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I read an article a while back in kotaku (or some other gaming blog) about why the entertainment industry is almost completely recession-proof, something along the lines of people want to be entertained & happy, even more so during a recession.

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January 16, 2009 5:25 PM

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@Swizzler121: also the tobacco and alcohol industry get a big boost

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January 16, 2009 5:23 PM

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...And I've never been happier that my husband is a video game designer. :D

Most video games really do provide good value for the money, though, when you consider how many hours of entertainment you can get out of a good one. For us at least, games last many hours longer than a book does, and we often wait to buy our games until they cost about as much as a hardcover does anyway.

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January 16, 2009 5:54 PM

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The only reason this industry is going strong is because people haven't figured out a way to pirate them all yet.
Well, at least not the Wii.

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January 16, 2009 6:37 PM

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While both the Xbox 360 and the PS3 have dropped in price since launch, the Wii has actually INCREASED in price (at least in Canada). Obviously they can get away with charging more because stores are still selling out of them.

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Anitra

January 16, 2009 6:40 PM

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We've cut way back in our budget, so even though we have a Wii, PS2, and XBox360, we spend very little on new games. They're a special treat now; instead, we've been spending more time with the games we ALREADY HAVE.

This despite my husband's part-time job at a game store, with pretty good discounts available to him.

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January 16, 2009 6:54 PM

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Well, people do need their escape outlets, and games seem to be better made than movies these days. Dead Space, for example, was scarier and more fascinating than any sci fi horror film I've seen in 20 years.

It's also a no-brainer that decent portable entertainment will always have and audience. If I go shopping with my wife, I have two choices while I wait with the sleeping baby in the car: redo the sudoku puzzle on the newsrag that I find in the trunk or whip out a little Gurumin or Super Stardust on my PSP. Heck, I can even watch movies or surf the web on it. Ahhhhh.

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Anonymous

January 16, 2009 7:28 PM

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We got my 71-year-old mother a Wii for Christmas and she loves it. She called the other night to say she and her other old lady widow friends were having cocktails and Wii bowling. We'll get her the Wii Fit when we can find one. Wii has tapped a new market in the old timers -- a couple of nursiing homes around here have them too just to keep their patients moving. My house is usually filled with teenage boys playing Mario Kart so it's a game system for all ages.

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Andalucian Chic

January 16, 2009 8:06 PM

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I hadn't played a video game in 10 years until I got my Wii last summer. I love it and I enjoy playing all of the games. I don't care if they're not the best graphics; they're just plain fun! I used to be incredibly annoyed by all of the controls on PS2 and the like, but the Wii is simple and easy to use.

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January 16, 2009 8:17 PM

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I would rather spend $30 for a new DS game and play at home for many nights than spend twice that for a single night at a club. Also - gaming is somethnig the entire family can participate in and talk about for much less money than going out.

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DePaulBlueDemon

January 16, 2009 8:44 PM

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Completely agree.

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DePaulBlueDemon

January 16, 2009 8:48 PM

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Most video games have really good resale values. I would love to keep all of my games and build a collection, but I cannot afford to. As a result, I usually buy a game new, play it to my heart's content, and sell it on eBay. I usually only lose a few dollars off the purchase price (plus fees). I then have money for the next game.

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mikey07840

January 16, 2009 10:20 PM

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I just got a used PS2. I buy used PS2 games and save tons of money.

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CFinWV

January 17, 2009 4:07 PM

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I'm not surprised.

My brother used to ask us not to buy his sons any video games, well... now that it costs about as much (or more) to take the whole family to one movie as it does to buy one new game he has now changed his mind.

I bought my nephews a Wii for christmas, the whole family is now addicted. Every single one of them including my sister-in-law's parents have their own games and accessories.

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I want my Pepsi Throwback back!

January 17, 2009 6:25 PM

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I will just be happy when we get our tax return back and I can go buy Wii Fit. :D

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