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  <title>Comments for More Changes To United Airlines Frequent Flier Program</title>
  <subtitle>Shoppers bite back.</subtitle>
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    <published>2008-11-06T04:39:52Z</published>
    <updated>2008-11-06T04:29:58Z</updated>
    <title>More Changes To United Airlines Frequent Flier Program</title>
    <summary>--&gt;Could this be a sign of thawing in the hearts of United Airlines? They announced yesterday that after four months of crediting Mileage Plus members with actual miles flown instead of a minimum of 500, the airline will reinstate the old program for &quot;elite&quot; members.</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p><!--<img src="http://consumerist.com/images/31/2008/11/plus.jpg" width="269" height="155" />-->Could this be a sign of thawing in the hearts of United Airlines? They announced yesterday that after four months of crediting Mileage Plus members with actual miles flown instead of a minimum of 500, the airline will reinstate the old program for "elite" members.</p>
<blockquote><p>The change occurs Jan. 1, when United's "elite" Mileage Plus members will earn a minimum 500 miles for any flight, Robin Urbanski, a spokeswoman, said in an e-mail message.</p>
<p>United also will credit their accounts retroactively for flights made since July 1, when UAL unit dropped the minimum award for all Mileage Plus members.</p>
<p>The change shows the value airlines place on retaining the loyalty of passengers who fly the most. American Airlines said last week that it would drop a minimum award in favor of actual miles flown for all except its elite-program members, saving money by reducing the number of passengers eligible for free trips.</p>
<p>United opted to add back the minimum guarantee for elite travelers to "keep our program competitive with other airlines and reward our most premium members," Urbanski said.</p></blockquote>
<p> The rest of you plebs will, of course, still only get the actual amount of miles flown.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/11/04/business/04ual.php">United Airlines restores mileage credit in bid to keep loyal customers</a> [IHT]</p>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5077679-comment:8777348</id>
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    <title>Comment from EYESONLY on 2008-11-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>EYESONLY</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c8761997" rel="nofollow">jamar0303</a>: From <a href="http://www.smartertravel.com/blogs/up-front-with-tim-winship/united-will-raise-prices-of-many-frequent-flyer-awards.html?id=2764709" rel="nofollow">that same link</a>: "[T]here will be price increases for a number of awards booked on or after January 1, 2009..."</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-11-07T03:11:34Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5077679-comment:8771795</id>
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    <title>Comment from jrockway on 2008-11-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>jrockway</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c8760583" rel="nofollow">missdona</a>: And AA's policy change was a result of Continental's policy change.  This is pretty standard for the airline business -- one airline makes a change, the rest follow.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-11-07T00:08:40Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5077679-comment:8764413</id>
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    <title>Comment from Front_Towards_Enemy on 2008-11-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>Front_Towards_Enemy</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>"They announced yesterday that after four months of crediting Mileage Plus members with actual miles flown instead of a minimum of 500, the airline will reinstate the old program for "elite" members."</p>
<p>Here, let me process this through the business bullshit translator. I'll just take a sec. Ahh! here it is:</p>
<p>"We've screwed enough loyal customers that the churn is now effecting our bottom line. We will offer this useless gesture as a desperate measure to get you back as a customer."</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-11-06T19:17:40Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5077679-comment:8764185</id>
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    <title>Comment from Myownheroine on 2008-11-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>Myownheroine</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>@<a href="http://consumerist.com/5077679/more-changes-to-united-airlines-frequent-flier-program#c8758164" rel="nofollow">RedwoodFlyer</a>:</p><br />
<p>Flights with empty seats are getting fewer and fewer. I've flown full flights on ff miles.</p></p>]]>
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    <published>2008-11-06T18:59:16Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5077679-comment:8764176</id>
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    <title>Comment from Myownheroine on 2008-11-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>Myownheroine</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>@<a href="http://consumerist.com/5077679/more-changes-to-united-airlines-frequent-flier-program#c8762483" rel="nofollow">coren</a>:</p><br />
<p>United announced its actual-miles-flown policy in July for all members.</p><br />
<p>American announced last week that it was going to an actual-miles-flown policy for all but elites.</p><br />
<p>This week, United said that elite members would be getting at least 500 miles for all flights.</p></p>]]>
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    <published>2008-11-06T18:58:19Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5077679-comment:8762532</id>
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    <title>Comment from Anonymous on 2008-11-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>Anonymous</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>The big news is that United is now going to be charging fees for upgrading to business class on international flights, in *addition* to the increased mileage requirements. So that upgrade is not only going to cost you 20,000 miles, but also maybe $500. Ridiculous.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-11-06T12:07:31Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5077679-comment:8762483</id>
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    <title>Comment from coren on 2008-11-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>coren</name>
        <uri>n/a</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>United also will credit their accounts retroactively for flights made since July 1, when UAL unit dropped the minimum award for all Mileage Plus members.</p>
<p>The change shows the value airlines place on retaining the loyalty of passengers who fly the most. American Airlines said last week that it would drop a minimum award in favor of actual miles flown for all except its elite-program members, saving money by reducing the number of passengers eligible for free trips.</p>
<p>So has this been going on for four months (since July) or last week?  I can't be the only one confused here</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-11-06T11:57:18Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5077679-comment:8762010</id>
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    <title>Comment from jamar0303 on 2008-11-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>jamar0303</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>And this is why I just signed up for another *A airline's mileage card. I never fly enough for elite status (well, if I paid for the Premier fast-track I would- an annual round-trip to China is my usual and gets me 15k miles).</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-11-06T10:40:51Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5077679-comment:8761997</id>
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    <title>Comment from jamar0303 on 2008-11-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>jamar0303</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c8758322" rel="nofollow">EYESONLY</a>: When does that change happen? I think I need to book my award tickets now.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-11-06T10:38:42Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5077679-comment:8760583</id>
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    <title>Comment from missdona on 2008-11-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>missdona</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>This is a reaction to AA's announcment that they're going to actual miles flown, but no changes for elites. It's simply a reaction to the competition.<br /><a href="http://www.aa.com/aa/i18nForward.do?p=/utility/mileageGuarantee.jsp" rel="nofollow">[www.aa.com]</a></p></p>]]>
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    <published>2008-11-06T08:11:09Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5077679-comment:8759737</id>
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    <title>Comment from RedwoodFlyer on 2008-11-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>RedwoodFlyer</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c8759116" rel="nofollow">humphrmi</a>:</p>
<p>Chicago control tower: Lufthansa 727, you are cleared to take off please take off.</p>
<p>Captain of Lufthansa 727: My manifest does not agree with my passenger count; I will not depart until it does.</p>
<p>Another pilot from an American airline: (I'll let someone else finish this joke...me no tengo banhammer!)</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-11-06T06:55:02Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5077679-comment:8759116</id>
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    <title>Comment from humphrmi on 2008-11-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>humphrmi</name>
        <uri>http://famille.org</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I fly United often enough, except I am a member of Lufthansa's mileage program.  So whenever I fly UAL, I get the minimum miles anyway.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-11-06T06:11:03Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5077679-comment:8758742</id>
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    <title>Comment from Bearded Rapper on 2008-11-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>Bearded Rapper</name>
        <uri>http://muckup.blogspot.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>That sucks. I still use Aeroplan.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-11-06T05:46:05Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from vitonfluorcarbon on 2008-11-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>vitonfluorcarbon</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>United "changed" this policy this year, but it never changed the way my shorter flights accrue.  I always have gotten 500 miles per short flight.  The change was put in place after I acquired Premier Executive status so maybe that was why I was still getting 500?</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-11-06T05:42:33Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from CaliforniaCajun on 2008-11-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>CaliforniaCajun</name>
        <uri>http://www.google.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>We hate our customers - and it shows!</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-11-06T05:38:49Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5077679-comment:8758378</id>
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    <title>Comment from jdmba on 2008-11-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>jdmba</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What a hostile industry.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-11-06T05:21:34Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from EYESONLY on 2008-11-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>EYESONLY</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This "good" news is more than canceled out by the fact that they're also upping the mileage requirements for a lot of awards--go <a href="http://www.smartertravel.com/blogs/up-front-with-tim-winship/united-will-raise-prices-of-many-frequent-flyer-awards.html?id=2764709" rel="nofollow">here</a> and see section 3.</p>
<p><i>Some examples (all Saver awards, unless otherwise noted):</i></p><i>
<p>Domestic first-class awards will increase from 60,000 to 70,000 miles.</p>
<p>Hawaii coach and first class will increase from 35,000 and 90,000 to 40,000 and 100,000 miles, respectively.</p>
<p>Europe coach and first class will increase from 50,000 and 120,000 to 55,000 and 135,000 miles, respectively.</p>
</i><p><i>South Asia coach and first class will increase from 60,000 and 120,000 to 65,000 and 145,000 miles, respectively...</i></p>]]>
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    <published>2008-11-06T05:17:20Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from jpontius on 2008-11-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>jpontius</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>This is great!  I'm a United frequent flyer, and I fly from South Bend, IN to O'hare.  With the old "new" program I got a measly 84 miles,  far short of the 500 mile minimum.  When you fly every week like I do,  those miles add up quick!</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-11-06T05:12:12Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from RedwoodFlyer on 2008-11-06</title>
    <author>
        <name>RedwoodFlyer</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c8758164" rel="nofollow">RedwoodFlyer</a>: (two is the new three...whoops)</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-11-06T05:06:35Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from RedwoodFlyer on 2008-11-06</title>
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        <name>RedwoodFlyer</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Makes sense for two huge reasons</p>
<p>1) The most profitable routes are shuttle routes - short, high frequency routes such as the eastern corridor (nyc/D.C./Boston) - it got the people who pay over $1 a mile on a regular basis riled up that they get 200 miles while someone who paid the same amount for a trans-con gets 10x as many miles</p>
<p>2) In all reality, the additional cost to fly someone on a frequent flier ticket is about $10... they only make them available on flights with empty seats, so it's not like you'll be kicking off a revenue pax....</p>
<p>3) Tax write-off! That's one thing we take full and legal advantage of...you write off the miles someone flies on a redemption ticket multiplied by your costs per available seat miles (aka CASM...around 8-13 cents)..so in a way, we actually benefit from someone flying "free"</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-11-06T05:06:17Z</published>
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