var json_comments = new Array("<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-8132202\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=324163\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-324163-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=324163\">Crabby Cakes</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8132202\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-03T18:56:00-05:00\">October  3, 2008  6:56 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8132202);\">Moderate</a> |</span>	<script type=\"text/javascript\" src=\"http://consumerist.com/mt-static/plugins/Moderate/moderate.js\"></script>	<script type=\"text/javascript\">		successMsg = \"\";	</script><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8132202');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>I was surprised to see Camry and Corolla on there, I figured it would only apply to their SUV's and full size trucks.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8132202, 'Crabby Cakes')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->								<div class=\"num-replies\">2 replies</div>	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-8141276\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">                <a href=\"\"><img src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"         width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>            </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\">SayAhh    </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8141276\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-04T03:44:19-05:00\">October  4, 2008  3:44 AM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8141276);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8141276');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8132202\" rel=\"nofollow\">undefined</a>: Camry, yes; Corolla, no: I bought my 2002 Corolla for $0 down, 0% APR for 36 months when it was new, December 31, 2001.  Now, as for the Scion tC: unfortunately for frugal shoppers, they're still selling well...</p><p>On the other hand, barring any total-loss accidents in the near future, the next vehicle I plan to purchase would either be a 100% plug-in electric (new Tesla) or a super-high MPG vehicle, like the Aptera.</p><p><a href=\"http://blog.wired.com/cars/2008/03/tesla-aptera-am.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">[blog.wired.com]</a></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8141276, 'SayAhh')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-8149134\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=555736\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-555736-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=555736\">proskills</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8149134\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-04T23:09:40-05:00\">October  4, 2008 11:09 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8149134);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8149134');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8141276\" rel=\"nofollow\">SayAhh</a>: I don't think the plug in Aptera will be available for quite some time, but the 100% electric version was supposed to go into production in December of this year.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8149134, 'proskills')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>     <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>    </div>","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-8132323\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=267279\"><img        src=\"/mt-static/support/assets_c/userpics/userpic-267279-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=267279\">chiieddy</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8132323\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-03T19:00:13-05:00\">October  3, 2008  7:00 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8132323);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8132323');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>I know this isn't related, but I just saw <a href=\"http://blogs.zdnet.com/gadgetreviews/?p=417\" rel=\"nofollow\">this</a> over the wires.  Could someone here comment?</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8132323, 'chiieddy')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->																					<div class=\"num-replies\">15 replies</div>	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-8152622\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=354566\"><img        src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=354566\">heathenkitties</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8152622\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-05T08:33:29-05:00\">October  5, 2008  8:33 AM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8152622);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8152622');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8132323\" rel=\"nofollow\">chiieddy</a>: Oh, man, this SUCKS.  :-(</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8152622, 'heathenkitties')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->                    <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-8134516\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=389492\"><img        src=\"/mt-static/support/assets_c/userpics/userpic-389492-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=389492\">catastrophegirl chooses not to fly</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8134516\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-03T20:15:17-05:00\">October  3, 2008  8:15 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8134516);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8134516');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8132323\" rel=\"nofollow\">chiieddy</a>: who would like to join me in clicking on ALL the advertising content on the site please?<br />would it help or is it too little too late?</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8134516, 'catastrophegirl chooses not to fly')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-8144324\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">                <a href=\"\"><img src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"         width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>            </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\">BiZarRroBALlmeR    </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8144324\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-04T15:18:28-05:00\">October  4, 2008  3:18 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8144324);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8144324');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8134516\" rel=\"nofollow\">catastrophegirl</a>: Good question. I'll click anyways.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8144324, 'BiZarRroBALlmeR')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>     <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->                    <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-8134120\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=16390\"><img        src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=16390\">TVarmy</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8134120\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-03T20:01:34-05:00\">October  3, 2008  8:01 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8134120);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8134120');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8132323\" rel=\"nofollow\">chiieddy</a>: It looks like the news isn't as bad as it looked at first blush.  Consumerist isn't getting shuttered.  Instead, it looks like Gawker is laying a lot of their bloggers off.  Still bad news, but at least the blog isn't going away entirely.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8134120, 'TVarmy')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-8155411\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=403608\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-403608-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=403608\">atypicalxian</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8155411\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-05T18:12:20-05:00\">October  5, 2008  6:12 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8155411);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8155411');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8134120\" rel=\"nofollow\">TVarmy</a>: As Gawker has become the new DailyKos, I'm not shedding a lot of tears over it (although I'm not happy about anyone being laid off).</p><p>Defamer was my gateway drug to this and Lifehacker.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8155411, 'atypicalxian')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-8155455\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=403608\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-403608-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=403608\">atypicalxian</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8155455\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-05T18:16:05-05:00\">October  5, 2008  6:16 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8155455);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8155455');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8155411\" rel=\"nofollow\">atypicalxian</a>: I don't mean Gawker the company, but Gawker the website, in case there's any confusion.</p>        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href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=326654\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-326654-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=326654\">Traveshamockery</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8132853\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-03T19:19:36-05:00\">October  3, 2008  7:19 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8132853);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8132853');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8132323\" rel=\"nofollow\">chiieddy</a>: Don't go, Consumerist!</p><p>One of the comments made by the publisher was: </p><blockquote>Sites such as Consumerist, whose success has been measured more in traffic and recognition than in revenue, now need to cover their costs.</blockquote><p>Honestly, I would have never found the other Gawker blogs without finding Consumerist first.  Consumerist was my Gawker gateway drug.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8132853, 'Traveshamockery')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-8154103\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=469751\"><img        src=\"/mt-static/support/assets_c/userpics/userpic-469751-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=469751\">TouchMyMonkey</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8154103\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-05T16:14:46-05:00\">October  5, 2008  4:14 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8154103);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8154103');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8132853\" rel=\"nofollow\">InfiniTrent</a>: I believe that's what they call a \"loss leader\" in the trade.  I hope the Gawker suits know what a \"loss leader\" is, and fully appreciate the benefits therefrom.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8154103, 'TouchMyMonkey')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->                    <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-8133978\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=6536\"><img        src=\"/mt-static/support/assets_c/userpics/userpic-6536-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=6536\">Rectilinear Propagation</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8133978\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-03T19:57:08-05:00\">October  3, 2008  7:57 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8133978);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8133978');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p><i>Consumerist was my Gawker gateway drug.</i></p><p>@<a href=\"#c8132853\" rel=\"nofollow\">InfiniTrent</a>: Same here.</p><p>Seriously, it's Friday. Stop it with all the bad news already!</p><p>I like all my Consumerist peoples. :(</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8133978, 'Rectilinear Propagation')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->                    <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-8133044\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=371684\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-371684-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=371684\">nsv</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8133044\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-03T19:25:34-05:00\">October  3, 2008  7:25 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8133044);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8133044');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8132853\" rel=\"nofollow\">InfiniTrent</a>: Ah crap.  Consumerist still IS my gateway.  I start here and scan the others when I think of it.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8133044, 'nsv')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-8133281\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=326654\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-326654-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=326654\">Traveshamockery</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8133281\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-03T19:34:03-05:00\">October  3, 2008  7:34 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8133281);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8133281');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8133044\" rel=\"nofollow\">nsv</a>: Me too.  The only other bookmark I have is for Lifehacker, and that's just on my home computer.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8133281, 'Traveshamockery')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>     <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>     <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->                    <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-8132842\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=8146\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-8146-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=8146\">djsyndrome</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8132842\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-03T19:19:18-05:00\">October  3, 2008  7:19 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8132842);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8132842');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8132202\" rel=\"nofollow\">Crabby Cakes</a>: the Matrix isn't selling well, but the Corolla is, so yes, that's a bit surprising.</p><p>The only Toyota vehicles missing from that list are the Land Cruiser, Avalon, Solara (might be rolled under Camry), Prius (duh) and Yaris (double-duh).</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8132842, 'djsyndrome')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-8133229\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=324163\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-324163-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=324163\">Crabby Cakes</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8133229\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-03T19:32:17-05:00\">October  3, 2008  7:32 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8133229);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8133229');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8132842\" rel=\"nofollow\">djsyndrome</a>: I just figured they'd use it as a ploy to get rid of all the gas guzzlers that no one's buying.  But Camry and Corolla?  That's a good deal.</p><p>Seriously, I need to STOP. RIGHT. NOW.  I've almost paid off my current car and I DO NOT need a new car right now.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8133229, 'Crabby Cakes')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-8134264\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=8146\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-8146-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=8146\">djsyndrome</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8134264\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-03T20:06:50-05:00\">October  3, 2008  8:06 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8134264);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8134264');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8133229\" rel=\"nofollow\">Crabby Cakes</a>: no kidding.  My Matrix has three payments left and I've been eying the new design since it came out.  I'm almost at 140k miles, but the stupid thing will. not. die.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8134264, 'djsyndrome')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-8155444\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=403608\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-403608-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=403608\">atypicalxian</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8155444\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-05T18:15:09-05:00\">October  5, 2008  6:15 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8155444);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8155444');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8134264\" rel=\"nofollow\">djsyndrome</a>: Really?  I have an '06 RAV4 that I really do not like (the car runs well, and I like my sunroof, but all the details suck).  I was considering a Vibe, which is the same as a Matrix but $1K cheaper, but 0% financing may induce me to give it a look, and I was looking for feedback on the Matrix from someone who owned one.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8155444, 'atypicalxian')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->                    <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-8134774\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=324163\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-324163-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=324163\">Crabby Cakes</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8134774\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-03T20:23:31-05:00\">October  3, 2008  8:23 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8134774);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8134774');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8134264\" rel=\"nofollow\">djsyndrome</a>: I've got a mother-fracking Mazda 6i.  It's been trying to die since the day I bought it!  Should have gone with a Toyota in the first place, like everyone said.  But it IS almost paid off and the thought of jumping into another loan, especially now, is none too enticing.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8134774, 'Crabby Cakes')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->                    <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-8134349\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=131723\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-131723-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=131723\">theblackdog</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8134349\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-03T20:09:58-05:00\">October  3, 2008  8:09 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8134349);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8134349');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8134264\" rel=\"nofollow\">djsyndrome</a>: What, and you want it to die, especially while it's not paid off? :-P</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8134349, 'theblackdog')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-8135747\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=8146\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-8146-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=8146\">djsyndrome</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8135747\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-03T21:00:36-05:00\">October  3, 2008  9:00 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8135747);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8135747');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8134743\" rel=\"nofollow\">BertonCapys</a>: two options:</p><p>-if you're still (very) early in the loan, pay extra each month.  This will go towards the principal and you won't wind up paying interest on it.</p><p>-refinance through your credit union or bank for what you still owe on the loan.  If you're already well into your loan, though, the damage has been done - they've already collected most of the interest from you.</p><p>Good luck!</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8135747, 'djsyndrome')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>     <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>     <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>     <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>     <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->                    <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-8132824\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=513539\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-513539-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=513539\">JohnDeere</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8132824\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-03T19:18:36-05:00\">October  3, 2008  7:18 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8132824);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8132824');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p><p>@<a href=\"http://consumerist.com/5058794/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing#c8132323\" rel=\"nofollow\">chiieddy</a>: conspiracy. the banks are paying to close down consumerist.</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8132824, 'JohnDeere')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-8132887\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=158781\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-158781-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=158781\">mike</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8132887\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-03T19:20:35-05:00\">October  3, 2008  7:20 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8132887);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8132887');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p><p>@<a href=\"http://consumerist.com/5058794/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing#c8132824\" rel=\"nofollow\">JohnDeere</a>: I'd believe it if the banks had money. I guess they are buying from the $700 bil we're loaning them.</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8132887, 'mike')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>     <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->                    <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-8132555\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=495463\"><img        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class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8132323\" rel=\"nofollow\">chiieddy</a>: that blows</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8132555, 'lodleader')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->                    <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-8132489\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=324163\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-324163-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" 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this ruined my week more than the goddamn bail out.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8132489, 'Crabby Cakes')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>    </div>","","","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-8132816\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">                <a href=\"http://\"><img src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"         width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>            </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a title=\"http://\" href=\"http://\" rel=\"nofollow\">exkon</a>    </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8132816\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-03T19:18:19-05:00\">October  3, 2008  7:18 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8132816);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8132816');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>Why couldn't this apply to their Scion brand as well?</p><p>I want a TC at 0%!!!</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8132816, 'exkon')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top 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class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8133124);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8133124');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p><p>Will they do the 0% on the purchase plus balance from my Nissan loan?</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8133124, 'bobpence')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->		    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->    </div>","","","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-8133566\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=537475\"><img        src=\"/mt-static/support/assets_c/userpics/userpic-537475-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=537475\">pecan 3.14159265</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8133566\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-03T19:43:19-05:00\">October  3, 2008  7:43 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8133566);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8133566');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>Wow. I was just about to buy a Toyota, but liked a Nissan better. I'm not regretting that. The Toyota would've been at least $2,000 more than the Nissan I purchased.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8133566, 'pecan 3.14159265')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->							<div class=\"num-replies\">1 replies</div>	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-8154350\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=513573\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-513573-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=513573\">Changed my name to \"I like potatoes\"</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8154350\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-05T16:41:53-05:00\">October  5, 2008  4:41 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8154350);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8154350');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8133566\" rel=\"nofollow\">IHaveAFreezeRay</a>: <br />Well CRAP!....just bought a Sienna last month and got 6 point something loan - with a 800+ credit score.  That sucks.  Good think I only financed 10,000.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8154350, 'Changed my name to \\&quot;I like potatoes\\&quot;')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>    </div>","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-8133879\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">                <a href=\"\"><img src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"         width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>            </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\">robb9    </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8133879\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-03T19:53:45-05:00\">October  3, 2008  7:53 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8133879);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8133879');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p><p>Ahhhh... Welcome to the real automotive industry Toyota. GM sold almost 100,000 more cars than you did in September. This is what happens when you lie to your customers.</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8133879, 'robb9')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->									<div class=\"num-replies\">3 replies</div>	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-8134547\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=534218\"><img        src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=534218\">Corporate_guy</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8134547\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-03T20:16:01-05:00\">October  3, 2008  8:16 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8134547);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8134547');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8133879\" rel=\"nofollow\">robb9</a>: What lie?</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8134547, 'Corporate_guy')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-8134971\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">                <a href=\"\"><img src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"         width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>            </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\">robb9    </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8134971\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-03T20:30:42-05:00\">October  3, 2008  8:30 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8134971);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8134971');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p><p>@<a href=\"http://consumerist.com/5058794/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing#c8134547\" rel=\"nofollow\">Corporate_guy</a>:</p><br /><p>Where do I begin... Oil sludge is normal would be the first one they told me regarding my brand new 2007 Toyota Camry. Both the dealer and Toyota customer service told me this.</p><br /><p>Sweeping safety related concerns under the rug in japan.</p><br /><p>Horse Power numbers are grossly inflated as were MPG numbers for the Prius until the EPA finally made them change it in 2008.</p><br /><p>My cousins Tundra was not experiencing tailgate issues so said Toyota and the Dealer. This is an issue they have yet to fix for him... The list goes on.</p><br /><p>I sell Saturns now and I'm not exactly happy about it. But so far the service from GM has been improved upon. I might buy one of these cars that i sell because my customers love them.</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8134971, 'robb9')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-8146864\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=110622\"><img        src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=110622\">samurailynn</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8146864\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-04T19:22:08-05:00\">October  4, 2008  7:22 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8146864);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8146864');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8134971\" rel=\"nofollow\">robb9</a>: I don't have experience with any of the things you're saying Toyota lied about, but I do have experience with a different lie. They said my Corolla would only get 32 miles to the gallon highway driving. Instead, I have sometimes gotten up to 40 miles per gallon, and usually get about 30 (instead of the stated 28) miles per gallon with city driving. Those lying bastards.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8146864, 'samurailynn')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-8162575\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">                <a href=\"\"><img src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"         width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>            </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\">robb9    </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8162575\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-06T13:25:40-05:00\">October  6, 2008  1:25 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8162575);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8162575');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p><p>@<a href=\"http://consumerist.com/5058794/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing#c8146864\" rel=\"nofollow\">samurailynn</a>:</p><br /><p>I'll slap Honda for the same thing. Bastards said my Accord would get 31 and I'm stuck with 34 on the highway.</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8162575, 'robb9')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>     <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->                    <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-8143097\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=139172\"><img        src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=139172\">jamar0303</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8143097\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-04T11:16:36-05:00\">October  4, 2008 11:16 AM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8143097);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8143097');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8134971\" rel=\"nofollow\">robb9</a>: <br />AE86, people, can't go wrong with that.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8143097, 'jamar0303')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-8654422\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">                <a href=\"\"><img src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"         width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>            </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\">Sixxtwo    </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8654422\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-31T16:41:26-05:00\">October 31, 2008  4:41 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8654422);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8654422');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p><p>@<a href=\"http://consumerist.com/5058794/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing#c8143097\" rel=\"nofollow\">jamar0303</a>: THIS! I have had 3 of them and all of them went over 200k. One of them went to 450k. The 4-ac is indestructable! (yes AE86, not AE88)</p><br /><p>Also inb4 InitialD fake drifto-wannabe. Owned the cars before I knew/cared what the show even was.</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8654422, 'Sixxtwo')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>     <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->                    <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-8138134\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=479704\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-479704-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=479704\">AdvocatesDevil</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8138134\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-03T22:55:53-05:00\">October  3, 2008 10:55 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8138134);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8138134');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8134971\" rel=\"nofollow\">robb9</a>: HA!  Someone who sells for a domestic car company hates those nasty foreigners stealing his business?  Too funny.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8138134, 'AdvocatesDevil')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-8143842\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">                <a href=\"\"><img src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"         width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>            </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\">robb9    </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8143842\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-04T14:27:06-05:00\">October  4, 2008  2:27 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8143842);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8143842');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p><p>@<a href=\"http://consumerist.com/5058794/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing#c8138134\" rel=\"nofollow\">AdvocatesDevil</a>: I would also like to add that Toyota didn't steal any of my sales last month. It looks like the Chevy Malibu actually stole from Toyota.</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8143842, 'robb9')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->                    <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-8143812\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">                <a href=\"\"><img src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"         width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>            </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\">robb9    </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8143812\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-04T14:24:37-05:00\">October  4, 2008  2:24 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8143812);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8143812');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p><p>@<a href=\"http://consumerist.com/5058794/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing#c8138134\" rel=\"nofollow\">AdvocatesDevil</a>:</p><br /><p>Damn those foreigners. i hate them.... wish they would all go away. I want to load them into the back of my Honda Accord (which I traded my lemon camry for) and drive them all back to Japan.</p><br /><p>Way to put the ASS in assume.</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8143812, 'robb9')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>     <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>     <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>     <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->                    <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-8134371\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=259013\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-259013-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=259013\">nataku8_e30</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8134371\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-03T20:10:47-05:00\">October  3, 2008  8:10 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8134371);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8134371');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8133879\" rel=\"nofollow\">robb9</a>: Unfortunately that 100,000 number is only in the north american market, where GM has managed to continue to maintain a pretty sizable lead over Toyota.  Internationally, my guess is they're still pretty close.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8134371, 'nataku8_e30')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>    </div>","","","","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-8134296\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=3865\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-3865-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=3865\">AlteredBeast</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8134296\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-03T20:07:55-05:00\">October  3, 2008  8:07 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8134296);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8134296');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p><p>I'd still have to get approved for the loan, right?? I have a car loan right now, and I'd love to get a newer car w/o the high interest rate on it.</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8134296, 'AlteredBeast')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->		    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->    </div>","","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-8134364\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=131723\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-131723-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=131723\">theblackdog</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8134364\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-03T20:10:26-05:00\">October  3, 2008  8:10 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8134364);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8134364');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>If this applied to the Yaris, I might consider it.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8134364, 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href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8146621\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-04T18:55:44-05:00\">October  4, 2008  6:55 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8146621);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8146621');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8134364\" rel=\"nofollow\">undefined</a>: Exactly what I was thinking too.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8146621, 'ajamison')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>    </div>","","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-8134506\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=534218\"><img        src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=534218\">Corporate_guy</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8134506\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-03T20:14:54-05:00\">October  3, 2008  8:14 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8134506);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8134506');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>They already had this for 36 month loans.  They just expanded the zero percent all the way up to 5 years.  5 years was 2.9%.  But as someone who bought one in May at 2.9%, this pisses me off.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8134506, 'Corporate_guy')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->							<div class=\"num-replies\">1 replies</div>	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-8135020\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=124903\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-124903-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=124903\">The Dude</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8135020\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-03T20:32:34-05:00\">October  3, 2008  8:32 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8135020);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8135020');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8134506\" rel=\"nofollow\">Corporate_guy</a>:</p><p>Can you post a picture of you being 'pissed off' ?  I'm guessing that could be entertaining.  Toyota should have known better than to run a promotion that wasn't retroactive.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8135020, 'The Dude')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>    </div>","","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-8134540\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=131501\"><img        src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=131501\">robdew2</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8134540\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-03T20:15:46-05:00\">October  3, 2008  8:15 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8134540);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8134540');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>Typically don't \"0%\" loans just have the hypothetical interest rate in the price of the car?</p><p>/me wishes he could refinance his Tacoma he bought last fall.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8134540, 'robdew2')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->							<div class=\"num-replies\">1 replies</div>	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-8134821\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=446064\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-446064-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=446064\">TracyHamandEggs</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8134821\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-03T20:25:02-05:00\">October  3, 2008  8:25 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8134821);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8134821');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8134540\" rel=\"nofollow\">robdew2</a>: Yup, which is why you are often better off taken the cash rebate and that cheap rate from your credit union since its usually an either/or.</p>        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I have crap credit (working very hard to repair it and doing a good job thus far) and got a horrible rate from Toyota when I bought my Yaris. 21.9%<p>I've asked them for a break in the rate but they always say no.</p><p>Any ideas on how I can get it lowered?</p><p>I pay so much on f'ing interest, it's insane!</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8134743, 'BertonCapys')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->										<div class=\"num-replies\">4 replies</div>	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-8151222\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">                <a href=\"\"><img src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"         width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>            </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\">howtragic    </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8151222\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-05T03:13:41-05:00\">October  5, 2008  3:13 AM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8151222);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8151222');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8134743\" rel=\"nofollow\">BertonCapys</a>: <br />Go back to school, get a student loan at 8% and pay off the car in full.</p><p>Otherwise, in the future, save up cash and buy a cheap used car outright.</p><p>Also, always negotiate for a lower interest rate.  They just start that high and then see if you'll bite.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8151222, 'howtragic')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->                    <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-8137482\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=371007\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-371007-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=371007\">TakingItSeriously is a Technopile</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8137482\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-03T22:16:53-05:00\">October  3, 2008 10:16 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8137482);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8137482');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8134743\" rel=\"nofollow\">BertonCapys</a>: ttt t t t twenty one percent?!?!?!?</p><p>just wow ... I didn't know banks would do car loans at that high an interest rate :(. Credit Cards yes ... Car Loans ... jeze</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8137482, 'TakingItSeriously is a Technopile')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-8144671\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=349596\"><img        src=\"/mt-static/support/assets_c/userpics/userpic-349596-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=349596\">Verucalise (Est.February2008)</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8144671\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-04T15:55:54-05:00\">October  4, 2008  3:55 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8144671);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8144671');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p><p>@<a href=\"http://consumerist.com/5058794/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing#c8137482\" rel=\"nofollow\">TakingItSeriously</a>: 19.65% thru Wells Fargo. 3 years of paying, haven't even got it 1/2 paid off yet.</p><br /><p>Welcome to the high interest market, brave soldier.</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8144671, 'Verucalise (Est.February2008)')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>     <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->                    <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-8136455\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a 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class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">                <a href=\"\"><img src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"         width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>            </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\">Anonymous    </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8134887\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-03T20:27:31-05:00\">October  3, 2008  8:27 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8134887);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8134887');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>Wonder if any other automakers will follow suit.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8134887, '')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->								<div class=\"num-replies\">2 replies</div>	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-8142798\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=562305\"><img        src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=562305\">GTI2.0</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8142798\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-04T08:31:04-05:00\">October  4, 2008  8:31 AM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8142798);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8142798');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8134887\" rel=\"nofollow\">SajalaEinnorb</a>:</p><p>Just bought a leftover '08 VW GTI for 72 months/0% financing.</p><p>(Was gonna buy with cash, but hell - I'll take their money free for 6 years!)</p>        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<div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=8146\">djsyndrome</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8136258\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-03T21:21:08-05:00\">October  3, 2008  9:21 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8136258);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8136258');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8134887\" rel=\"nofollow\">SajalaEinnorb</a>: ?  Almost every other non-luxury automaker descended to 0.0% financing long ago.  Honda seems to be the last major holdout.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8136258, 'djsyndrome')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>    </div>","","","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-8135296\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=87429\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-87429-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=87429\">Saboth</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8135296\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-03T20:42:38-05:00\">October  3, 2008  8:42 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8135296);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8135296');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>Oh wow, finally Toyota and maybe Honda will offer employee pricing or 0% financing? My time may have come!</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8135296, 'Saboth')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->		    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->    </div>","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-8135559\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">                <a href=\"\"><img src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"         width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>            </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\">vitonfluorcarbon    </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8135559\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-03T20:53:13-05:00\">October  3, 2008  8:53 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8135559);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8135559');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p><p>Will this also apply to the <b>Hybrid</b> Camry? The Hybrid is one great performing car, and does not cost that much more. If I could get one at a price near invoice and zero percent financing, then it is tempting. We just bought a new Yoda this spring making everything in my driveway a Yoda.</p><br /><p>Maybe I'll just hold out. The next gen synergy drive system is out next year and deals may be even better. Of course if we slip into major recession, the dollar will plummet even farther and companies like Toyota may just decide to focus energies on places where currency is worth something. They avoid some of this by producing a large majority in this country with local content but would still rather earn something more substantial than the unmighty dollar. Any other thoughts?</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8135559, 'vitonfluorcarbon')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->							<div class=\"num-replies\">1 replies</div>	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-8136241\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=8146\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-8146-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=8146\">djsyndrome</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8136241\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-03T21:20:27-05:00\">October  3, 2008  9:20 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8136241);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8136241');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8135559\" rel=\"nofollow\">vitonfluorcarbon</a>: Toyota's website isn't updated with the new offers yet, but the previous ARR offers (0% up to 36 months, 1.9%/48mo., and 2.9%/60 mo.) excluded the Camry Hybrid.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8136241, 'djsyndrome')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>    </div>","","","","","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-8136594\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=116400\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-116400-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=116400\">howie_in_az</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8136594\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-03T21:34:45-05:00\">October  3, 2008  9:34 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8136594);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8136594');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>BMW is having a <a href=\"http://www.bmwusa.com/Standard/Content/FinancialServices/FinancingOffer/Default.aspx\" rel=\"nofollow\">similar financing offer</a> for their vehicles, ranging from 4.9% to 0.9%.</p><p>The 335i sedan, 550i sedan, M6 coupe, M6 convertible, M3 sedan, and M3 convertible can all be had for 0.9% (M3 coupe for 1.9%).</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8136594, 'howie_in_az')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->		    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->    </div>","","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-8137733\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=573644\"><img        src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=573644\">EdaPirate</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8137733\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-03T22:29:48-05:00\">October  3, 2008 10:29 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8137733);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8137733');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>How about buy an older car that you can pay off quickly, there's a guarantee for 0% interest.<p>America has gone finance crazy, see the sub prime mortgage crisis for reference.  (yes I'm American)</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8137733, 'EdaPirate')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->		    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->    </div>","","","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-8141507\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=533661\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-533661-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=533661\">Barney_The Plug_ Frank</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8141507\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-04T04:09:07-05:00\">October  4, 2008  4:09 AM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8141507);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8141507');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>Sounds like a great deal!  Toyota makes outstanding cars. This is going to put a serious hammer to the US manufacturers--not that they already have had enough blows.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8141507, 'Barney_The Plug_ Frank')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->								<div class=\"num-replies\">2 replies</div>	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-8148102\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=533661\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-533661-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=533661\">Barney_The Plug_ Frank</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8148102\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-04T21:34:44-05:00\">October  4, 2008  9:34 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8148102);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8148102');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8141507\" rel=\"nofollow\">danno50</a>: I own a 06 Toy. Corolla and a 05 Volvo XC-90.  I love the driving experience of the XC 90 but it tends to be a \"shop queen\" and you feel like you are going to be sodomized when it goes in the shop.  You're right, the Corolla provides an uninspiring driving experience; however, the thing runs like a clock. Maintenance is inexpensive and replacement parts are abundant--as the Corolla is the new VW bug or peoples car.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8148102, 'Barney_The Plug_ Frank')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->                    <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-8142084\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">                <a href=\"http://\"><img src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"         width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>            </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a title=\"http://\" href=\"http://\" rel=\"nofollow\">narf</a>    </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8142084\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-04T05:20:13-05:00\">October  4, 2008  5:20 AM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8142084);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8142084');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8141507\" rel=\"nofollow\">danno50</a>: \"Outstanding\" is debatable.  Just MB and Volvo doesn't hold the market on safety anymore, Toyota doesn't hold the market on reliability and durability either, and have been just as apt to deny they have issues as some other makes.  Late 90's to present, major engine sludge issues.  In the 90's, they denied a lot of issues their V6 had ... we should know.  At work, we had a '92 V6 pickup that needed an engine every 90-100k miles.  Totalled at 250k, but it was doubtful it would've made it to 300k without more work anyways.  That compared to the '89 Ford that we got rid of in '05 with 720k miles (2nd engine, 2nd tranny, a lot of scars, and one seriously beat up driver's seat), or the '97 Ford we got rid of last year with 290k miles (all original powertrain, one alternator, one steering box, but that was it).</p><p>The deep discounting hasn't moved that many of the Toyota trucks/SUVs, so I doubt that extending the 0% is going to help them out any bit.  It may move some more Camrys and Corollas, but only for those who were willing to overlook the dull driving experience.</p><p>(None of this really matters to me anyways, as I'm not in the market for a new vehicle.  My Chevy with just under 200k miles is doing just fine.)</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8142084, 'narf')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>    </div>","","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-8142406\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=481662\"><img        src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=481662\">papahoth</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8142406\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-04T06:28:40-05:00\">October  4, 2008  6:28 AM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8142406);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8142406');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>Honda which stayed away from big cars, trucks and continues to focus on green technology, continues to do quite well.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8142406, 'papahoth')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->							<div class=\"num-replies\">1 replies</div>	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-8143826\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">                <a href=\"\"><img src=\"/css/images/default.gif\"         width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>            </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\">robb9    </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8143826\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-04T14:25:56-05:00\">October  4, 2008  2:25 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8143826);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8143826');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p><p>@<a href=\"http://consumerist.com/5058794/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing#c8142406\" rel=\"nofollow\">papahoth</a>:</p><br /><p>Honda is doing really well. I really like the new Accord. I wish I would have waited to buy the 2008 instead of jumping the gun on the 07. Still a great car. Their design language could use some work though. They are not very attractive.</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8143826, 'robb9')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>    </div>","","","","","","","","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-8146344\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=560148\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-560148-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=560148\">electrogeek77</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8146344\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-04T18:30:20-05:00\">October  4, 2008  6:30 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8146344);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8146344');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p><p>Good timing. We're looking for a truck, and we have to take the Prius in for an oil change anyways, so we're going to sniff around for more information.</p></p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8146344, 'electrogeek77')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->		    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->    </div>","","","","","","","","","","","","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-8162377\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=48046\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-48046-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=48046\">RamV10: The Axeman Returneth</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8162377\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-06T13:00:43-05:00\">October  6, 2008  1:00 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8162377);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8162377');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>I generally hate everything toyota has made since the supra, but I really REALLY would love to have me some FJ Cruiser.</p><p>Tundra is still a piece of crap.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8162377, 'RamV10: The Axeman Returneth')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->								<div class=\"num-replies\">2 replies</div>	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->     <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-8165466\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=9085\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-9085-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=9085\">EBone</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8165466\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-06T15:55:22-05:00\">October  6, 2008  3:55 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8165466);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8165466');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8162377\" rel=\"nofollow\">RamV10</a>: Bought one Friday. Love it.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8165466, 'EBone')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-8165999\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=48046\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-48046-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=48046\">RamV10: The Axeman Returneth</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8165999\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-06T16:18:35-05:00\">October  6, 2008  4:18 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8165999);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8165999');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8165466\" rel=\"nofollow\">EBone</a>: FJ Cruiser or Tundra?</p><p>I drove my dodge to the toyota dealership to look at the camry with my girlfriend this spring. The salesman tried really hard to get me to trade the it on a Tundra, and didn't try at all to sell us the camry that we were there to look at. We ended up not buying the Camry, but I did pull out a tow strap and offer to hook hitch to hitch with the tundra, even telling the salesman that I would buy it on the spot if it won. He balked, we left.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8165999, 'RamV10: The Axeman Returneth')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-8170856\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=9085\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-9085-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=9085\">EBone</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8170856\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-06T19:00:22-05:00\">October  6, 2008  7:00 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8170856);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8170856');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8165999\" rel=\"nofollow\">RamV10</a>: FJ Cruiser. Sorry, I wasn't very clear. First Toyota since '95. Everything else I buy is either Honda or Acura.</p><p>Anyways, been looking at the FJ for a while, and Friday the paper had an offer for 0% or $5K of MSRP on all FJ Cruisers in stock at a local dealer. As I only financed six grand, I took the $5K off and still got 4.6% financing.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8170856, 'EBone')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- Loop through the reply comments -->        <div class=\"reply-container\" >            <div class=\"comment last\" id=\"comment-8184185\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=48046\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-48046-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=48046\">RamV10: The Axeman Returneth</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8184185\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-07T13:08:26-05:00\">October  7, 2008  1:08 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8184185);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8184185');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>@<a href=\"#c8170856\" rel=\"nofollow\">EBone</a>:  Wow that's really nice. I'd love to have one for a toy, but right now I doubt it's in the cards. My girlfriend thinks that they're fugly, so maybe I should update that 'doubt' to \"it's definitely not in the cards\".</p><p>She doesn't have any taste anyway, she hangs out with me.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8184185, 'RamV10: The Axeman Returneth')\">Reply</a></div>		 	    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>                <!-- Display comment (reply comment, which may be a parent of more replies) -->            <div class=\"inner-reply-container\" >                 <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>     <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>     <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>     <!-- For each reply comment, recursively display any reply comments -->          	    </div>        	</div>    </div>","","<div class=\"comments-content\">        <div class=\"comment\" id=\"comment-8162903\">    <div class=\"inner\">	 <div class=\"user-pic\">        <a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;amp;blog_id=1&amp;amp;id=107600\"><img        src=\"http://consumerist.com/assets_c/userpics/userpic-107600-100x100.png\"        width=\"60\" height=\"60\" alt=\"user-pic\" /></a>    </div>        <div class=\"comment-header\">            <div class=\"asset-meta\"> <div class=\"vcard author\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/mt-cp.cgi?__mode=view&amp;blog_id=1&amp;id=107600\">satoru</a>        </div>				<div class=\"comment-date\"><a href=\"http://consumerist.com/2008/10/toyota-bad-economy-bad-car-sales-cheap-financing.html#comment-8162903\"><abbr class=\"published\" title=\"2008-10-06T13:52:48-05:00\">October  6, 2008  1:52 PM</abbr></a></div>				<div class=\"comment-moderate\"><span><a href=\"javascript:moderateComment(8162903);\">Moderate</a> |</span><a href='javascript:void(0)' onClick=\"return moderate(this, 'http://consumerist.com/cgi-bin/mt/plugins/Moderate/moderate.cgi?__mode=flag&comment_id=8162903');\">Flag for review</a></div>            </div>        </div><!-- end comment header -->        <div class=\"comment-content\">            <p>There's an odd thing with Japanese cars I've not been able to figure out. Traditionally they've been more reliable and last longer than their American counterparts (though this difference these days is getting much smaller if not non-existent at this point).</p><p>But the kicker is, in Japan the system insurance/safety is specifically designed such that owning a used car is cost prohibitive. Basically what happens is that after about 3 years you need to go through a yearly inspection. This doesn't sound bad except for the fact that this 'safety inspection' costs THOUSANDS of dollars, and is virtually impossible to pass even if you bought a new car 3 years ago and put it in a garage for the entire time. Then you have to pay for all the insane things they make you fix. Of course new cars are exempt from these 'safety inspections' for the first 3 years. So you basically reach a point where buying a new car is either cheaper, or at least in the same ball park as maintaining your old car.</p><p>So considering that most people are just going to buy new cars after 3-4 years why do they even bother to make them last so long? They should just put in the built in warranty time bombs that Volvo's have so that everything falls apart 1 day after the warranty expires. It's ironic that Japanese cars have such a high reliability reputation, when in fact no one in the home country would even benefit from this.</p>        </div>	<div class=\"reply\">	 <div class=\"reply-button\"><a title=\"Reply\" href=\"javascript:void(0);\" onclick=\"mtReplyCommentOnClick(8162903, 'satoru')\">Reply</a></div>		<!-- if it's a top level category ' -->		    </div><!-- end reply- button -->    </div></div>        <!-- Display comment (top level parent) -->    </div>","","","","","");