(Thanks, JON FROM NJ!)
]]>They use the same guidelines as above though
]]>What part of New Jersey is this? They've been doing this in some of the crappier parts of Brooklyn for awhile now because bums would stroll in and order a 4pc. and demand 10 sauces with the thing. Also, you get 1 (one) napkin in the bag - they don't leave those goodies out.
]]>This has been going on at my Mcdonalds for over ten years.
]]>zesty sauce @ burger king kicks all other sauce's asses any day of the week.
and they do sell taco bell hot sauce commercially (although the only place I saw it was at a super wal-mart near UCONN)
]]>I went into McDonald's yesterday in NYC. Some homeless dude walks up and put every single ketchup packet in his coat pocket and walked out. He took hundreds. I'm not sure if he's living on those things but it was 1/2 funny and 1/2 gross.
younger Pete from "The Adventures of Pete & Pete" spotting? Quite possible
]]>I personally don't mind paying extra for extra sauce, since it means that I can determine how much I can enjoy.
]]>Don't be fooled by the cheap customer pricing that fast food places offer. Charging for sauce is just a petty way to make even more money.
Although, charging for the sauces will prevent all the cheapos who eat at these places from wasting food, and producing more plastic waste in our landfills, so I am all for it.
]]>yea some people are cheap. bbq sauce is like a buck a bottle at wallyworld:P
]]>Btw, I found this survey about this recession:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=p-XlwgJysoV-gV-D6-1d_XQ
I think it's very important that we take part in it. It wants to find out what people really think and feel about this recession.
]]>For someone like McDonalds, they also have to factor in marketing, which I'm sure has a huge impact on pricing seeing as they spend so much on print, television, radio, and billboard media.
You're thinking of gross profit, you have to consider net profit.
]]>I think McDonald's should waive the charge for extra sauce if the total purchase is $10 or more.
There is a big difference between someone ordering a couple items off the dollar menu and someone bringing in their whole family for a meal. McDonald's should consider the cost of alienating family customers by nickel and dimming them.
Suppose the family has sat down and started eating and someone needs more sauce. The customer asks for more sauce and they have to pay to get it. I think this would aggravate many customers and they might take their business elsewhere.
]]>Baby girl... ten cents extra what a sauceless deal.
]]>There are many criticisms that can be leveled against McDonalds, but their beef has always been and still is 100% US. Plus you forgot to add the cost of the labor that is making your burger plus the rent and utilities that go into running the restaurant.
]]>Yer' kidding, right?
1) A slab of mystery meat processed from somewhere in South America: 55c
2) Two slices of white bread: 15c
3) A slab of oil made to look like cheese: 5c
4) A sliver of lettuce and tomato: 10c
5) A cup of fries made in bulk: 5c
6) A cup: 40c
Charge $6 for what amounts to less than $2 in materials, and you're telling me there's a razor thin profit in that? Are you a shill or something?
]]>mayonnaise being free: reminds me of a little problem disney used to have at a water park with the mayo packets - picture a hellman's mayo packet - now picture a circling seagull eyeballing what appears to be a big bin full of shiny silver rectangular fishies near all those picnic tables and lobster colored tourists....
yeah, for the first few weeks they lost thousands of mayo packets day, costing unknown bucks and making those poor gulls sick.
now the ketchup and mustard are out for the taking and mayo is on request at the counter. but they don't charge extra for it - that's added into the price of admission!!!
BUT...here is one I still don't believe...my local McDonalds charges the same fee if you ask for extra tartar sauce for your Filet O' Fish! This is NOT for a containerized sauce, but for an extra click on the sauce gun in the kitchen!
I now only buy Dollar Menu items at this one. On the happy side of things, the Double Cheeseburger and McChicken are still $1 there.
]]>For a 6 piece you get 1 sauce, 10 piece you get 2, and 20 was 3. I don't even know if they still have the 20 piece since I haven't been to McDonald's in probably 7 years.
I must say it is entertaining to watch employees running around trying to see if anyone at work has extra sauces since people hold onto them now if they don't use them.
]]>I've seen this in the past, but only at McDonalds. Screw them. It takes a LOT of sauce to make their chicken parts taste good. They have no right to tell me how much I should be using. I've actually demanded refunds on an entire order just because they wouldn't give me the sauce I wanted.
In other news, Burger King will give it to you "your way".
]]>@mmmsoap: Y'know, I've often wondered how much it cost to freeze that cup full of ice vs if it were just full of cold soda. The fountain machine often has its own refrigeration unit for the lines (or a cold plate which is chilled with ice). I would think cooling soda to 40 degrees takes alot less electricity than getting water to near 0 degrees for quick freezing.
]]>Yep, regular visitor. Regular. The closest McDs is about 60 yards from the front door of my business. Sometimes I even visit twice in one day.
]]>I only need ONE sauce for my 10 piece McNuggets. Am I doing something wrong?
]]>I like both, but prefer Mcnuggets. And I LOVE BK's buffalo sauce. Its like crack!
]]>Sock em away for a rainy day!
That's what I do!
Funny... last weekend I got a ten piece mcnuggets & ordered the hot mustard sauce at the intercom. The attendant got it wrong & put down BBQ sauce. I corrected her & she said "dont worry.. we will correct it at the window" ....I got to the window & gpt my order & took off. Got home & it was BBQ. But since I had about 4 hot mustardsauces in my silverware drawer.... I didnt care.
]]>Happily, all of the McDonald's around here still have the double-cheeseburger on the dollar menu and none of them charge for extra sauce.
I suppose if are the spiteful type, you could collect ketchup and mayo packets, and with the money you save on not buying ketchup and mayo ever again, you could buy extra McNuggets sauce.
]]>Either it's a conspiracy to save money through condiments, or I just go to the crappiest locations.
Oh, and for anyone wanting to stop by McD's in Toronto, ON:
The best McDonald's may very well be at Broadview & Danforth (which is, aside from one time, exempt from the above complaint. The girls there are awesome and treat everyone well, especially the elderly regulars). Even if you're not a regular fan of their food, you know that you will eventually, at some point, find yourself with an inexplicable craving for Chicken McNuggets, and so it's important to know a good location in the event of a McMergency.
The worst location? Consistently shoddy service and a revolving door staff of ADHD-afflicted teenaged morons and pimply-faced 22-year-old 'managers' can be found near Coxwell and Danforth, next to the public library, which I find a bit ironic. I have an extra special story of crappy service from that location to top all of the other bad experiences they've left me with, but it would make this long post just that much longer.
]]>When I worked there, as long as you stuck to giving the correct amount of sauce to begin with, if the occasional customer wanted a second sauce tub, it wasn't a big deal. I have noticed in the years since I've worked there, the employees have either forgotten or not been trained in this, as more often than not I get 2-3 sauces for a 6-piece.
]]>Before criticizing the grammar of the grunts in the U.S., you might want to study a few other languages so you can see that they make mistakes, too.
]]>:) I don't care what it's made of It tastes DELICIOUS
]]>So if the ketchup is still free, why the hell is the sauce costing money. Does Heinz give McDonalds it under the table or something? Can I walk in and ask for 136 ketchup packets?
Stupid McDonalds.
]]>The vast majority of extra condiments taken get wasted so this is a good way to encourage reasonable use.
]]>Try to charge me for condiments and I'll take a refund for the whole meal. Then I'll go across the street to BK where condiments are free with your meal.
]]>Just had chicken nuggets with honey last saturday, and it was pure honey, 100%, no other ingredients. KFC has a honey sauce that is a honey flavored HFCS, but the McDonalds near me uses real honey
]]>God, I wish people would learn how to spell and form coherent sentences. It's embarrassing! Signs like this make our country look stupid.
]]>I went into McDonald's yesterday in NYC. Some homeless dude walks up and put every single ketchup packet in his coat pocket and walked out. He took hundreds. I'm not sure if he's living on those things but it was 1/2 funny and 1/2 gross.
]]>I headed up to the counter, asked for another pack (though, two would have been better) and was told there was a charge (of about 15 cents). Shocked, I tell you! Had they properly made a sopping McRib, I wouldn't have needed to order more BBQ sauce!
Hehehe... I paid for it anyway - glad to have some minor indulgence in a foreign land. I'm cool with paying for sauce so long as it's reasonable.
]]>Our mcdonald's has been charging for sauce for at least 2 or 3 years.
Call me weird, but I think mcdonalds french fries and double cheeseburgers are excellent with mcdonalds bbq sauce :p
they've always charged me .11 for a packet of bbq if I didn't get nuggets, and they've always charged people for more than two around this area at least.
dang, you guys have been getting free sauce handouts and we've been paying for a while. we must have been the "test market" haha :p
]]>A lot of places do this (and normally charge 25 cents), however, this franchise decided to put it on paper.
]]>"We are now charging for sauces that exceeded what's provided in the list below". Does the past tense "exceeded" mean they are they now charging retroactively for the sauce?
I am glad to know that I can get one or two sauces "of choice" So I guess if I pays my money I gets my choices?
I am also so glad that Ketchup and mayo are still free! Free Ketchup! Free mayo! Free Tibet! Free Willy!
"Any other sauce asked and there would be a ten cent charge" Let's assume that McDonald's has yet to invent a sauce that can "ask" and speculate on how there "would" be a ten cent charge. Does that mean "there WOULD be a 10 cent charge but because we don't like you, the charge is now 15 cents. And hey, let's UNDERLINE THE AMOUNT so people will know WE MEAN IT!"
I know the management is SO sincere about this as because they are sorry they have caused not just one but several "inconveniences". If they could figure out how to charge for those too, they would.
I agree with other posters that the corporate "!MGMT!" probably doesn't set this policy. After all, this is likely just some poor franchisee trying to squeeze a few more dimes out of his or her customers.
This sign make me think of the old commercial some of you may remember: "What do you want, good grammar or good taste?" Looks like this Mickey D's has neither.
]]>And I don't know about all you, but around here none of the McDonalds' will even give you ketchup at the drive thru unless you specifically ask for it. I've forgotten dozens of times and been stuck eating fries without... you'd think the money they save hogging ketchup like that would cover the cost of extra sauce for the few people that want it.
]]>@kaptainkk: ...I ate at McDonald's 3 nights ago and felt just fine.
]]>No ice, unlimited refills, doesn't matter, the tiny amount of syrup and carbonated water you use, when purchased in the largest of bulk with the buying power of McDonalds and sold for two dollars is a minuscule dent in the overall profitability of their soda. That and fries are usualy just thrown out every so often.
]]>Culver's will not give you any napkins, salt, ketchup etc unless you ask. Then, when you ask, they give you about 100x more than any human would ever need, which kind of makes the whole "don't give anybody anything" rule stupid.
I went to a local Burger King drive-thru with my brother, who ordered a burger, and when she asked if he wanted any condiments he asked for BBQ sauce. She said "Sorry, BBQ sauce is only for chicken items". So, anybody putting BBQ sauce on a burger must be crazy.
]]>The few times I get a stickler for the rules who wants to charge me the 10 cents for the extra sauce, I make sure to put the 10 cents on my credit card. Gotta love those 20 cent swipe charges.
]]>I used to work at Taco Bell and people would ask for WAY too much sauce all the time.
I was working the drive thru one day, and someone asked for more sauce twice, and asked a third time and told me to just fill up the bag, and he held it up like it was Halloween.
Ridiculous.
I tip my hat to you, good sir (or ma'am)
]]>I wish I could buy their sauces at like the grocery store. I like their hot mustard and sweet and sour. I tried those recipe sites for them but they don't work.
]]>The other nontrad sauce I like is the Hot Mustard with a regular cheeseburger. I don't put it on the burger, I dip it into the sauce.
]]>However, that being said, you're right on for the trivial amount spent on municipal water, and power to run their carbonation machines. My understanding was that soda was a huge profit.
Haven't we seen several posts come by this summer about how crazy it was for companies to demand that you get ice in your soda? They think they're getting a good deal giving you less soda, but it turns out that soda is cheaper to make (thanks to HFCS, primarily) than ice is to freeze, so a full cup of soda is still a bigger profit than a cup with ice.
I'm not sure of my numbers on that one. Does anyone have data one way or the other on the soda-vs-ice issue?
]]>Also to repeat sentiment, it's just plain ridiculous how much waste these little packets generate. So many are used halfway and tossed, and an extra sauce cup either goes in the fridge for months at a time or thrown out with a half pack of fries.
I have no problem with this cost-saving measure.
]]>What about the rising cost of corn because farmers in Iowa think that corn is the fuel of the future (misguided)?
]]>This is not new, they've been doing it in Houston at every Mc D's I've been to in the last 5 years.
]]>You can also double dip without biting the nugget. That works too.
Cheers!
]]>No really, that was good. Kudos.
]]>There are two different things on the sign...the 5 piece with the 2 sauces are chicken selects, which are more like strips. I guess they decided nuggets need less sauce.
]]>I like the part where they say "ketchup and mayo still free!"
]]>A few years ago the subway in huningdon tn was bought by some immigrants and they only issue black olives 6 at a time. They will give you all you want but the poor employees feel pretty stupid lining up the 6 olives over and over again.
]]>The McD's here has been charging .25 ea (.27 with tax) for extra sauce and dressing for 8+ years now.
]]>@little stripes: As a child I could find very creative ways to use one sauce per nugget and a whole packet of ketchup on a few french fries (this was before I knew about the poison I was eating that led to my issue with my weight as a child). 1. Dip that little bugger in, 2. take a bite, turn sideways,3. slather once again with sweet n' sour, 4. take another bite, 5. submerge remaining piece in along with fingers, 6. take the last bite, 7. begin process all over again with new nugget. Gotta love the good ol' days. I haven't eaten there in 10 years (with the exception of the hashbrown I had last year at a McDonalds in Naples, Italy, which made me remember why I hadn't eaten there in 10 years) and will never eat there again!
]]>It was less than a decade ago. But we only did it once to a repeat abusive customer. Curse and yelled at us when we inform them of the policy. They went out of their way to pay with a large bill. While saying Loudly it was a "expletive joke to charge". It was McDonalds with a playground. So kids got to hear that nice exchange. I guess you would say we where trying to fire the customer hoping they would not come back. Did'nt work. At are MCD's we would get in trouble if the manager saw us just give the customer more sauce.
]]>@lightaugust: If they are so hard up for a dime per sauce, then I doubt they are going to waste their valuable pennies on logos and colored ink and such. Times be rough, yo.
]]>LOL. I eat two per taco as well. I also have a candy box that I use the top and bottom to help keep my extra TB sauce, Ketchup, and Arby's sauce neatly ordered in. Sounds a little strange, but it helps keep things more organized, which is something we lack in my household.
]]>As a child I could find very creative ways to use one sauce per nugget and a whole packet of ketchup on a few french fries (this was before I knew about the poison I was eating that led to my issue with my weight as a child). 1. Dip that little bugger in, 2. take a bite, turn sideways,3. slather once again with sweet n' sour, 4. take another bite, 5. submerge remaining piece in along with fingers, 6. take the last bite, 7. begin process all over again with new nugget. Gotta love the good ol' days. I haven't eaten there in 10 years (with the exception of the hashbrown I had last year at a McDonalds in Naples, Italy, which made me remember why I hadn't eaten there in 10 years) and will never eat there again!
]]>@tande04: I thought the same thing.
]]>I had an "incident" at a local Burger King where I requested some barbecue sauce after placing my order, and was told that there would be a 10¢/package charge for this. I expressed a willingness to pay that, and was told to get back in the (very long) line while my food gets cold.
Long story sort, when I started to make a scene, another clerk got me my barbecue sauce, no charge. The first clerk later apologized and told me that the manager had told him that, although he was following policy, some common sense should have prevailed.
Incidentally, the barbecue sauce would not have normally been part of my meal (not chicken nuggets), but I like the stuff on my fries because I can't stand regular ketchup.
Between that and two other customer service blunders that I have encountered at that particular BK, I just don't go there any more, choosing instead to go to the one downtown.
]]>I managed 2 pizza places for about 4 years total. The drinks are an *example* of how you are being gouged already. A Big Mac sandwich is 3 bucks!.. Want a combo meal? Thats 6 bucks.
For a company to hammer profit out of every single customer, food quality, service and everything else be damned, then to ask for additional fees as ludicrous as whats happening on wall street right now.
Making a profit as a goal is not a bad thing. Gouging people for sub-par food, then asking for a handout on complimentary items is just sad.
]]>You do realize that the "15 cent coke" only includes the cost of the cup and soda, and not the labor or rent on the building, which are probably a bigger chunk of their expenses?
Obviously, fast food places are profitable, but looking at one part of their expenses and deciding it's an outrageous profit is silly.
]]>Nuggets are pretty much the only thing I can eat there.
]]>Actually, my steak was $75. Sides were $10 each.
]]>@SScorpio: I'll take the bee vomit FTW!
]]>I dip them in honey, then I dip them in BBQ sauce.
/because
]]>If you go to Olive Garden, they charge you $2+ for a little dish of runny marinara for your breadsticks.
On another note, my local McDonald's has had a similar "sauce policy" long before the "s" hit the "f" on the "s" market, etc.
]]>You want something besides ketchup? Pay up or go away.
]]>@howie_in_az: There's always someone, isn't there?
I love their cheeseburgers, or double cheeseburgers if I'm extra honey. I usually get it to go, then go home and slather it in real honey. Because I am weird and it is awesome.
]]>@shaman66: Oh, come on. For one, 10 cents is pretty reasonable. And as the commenter above mentioned, it helps cut down on waste. A lot of people don't use half the sauce they get/request, and they either toss it or it sits in the fridge 'til it goes bad. Now people will think, "Do I really need 3 sauces for 5 nugets?"
]]>Except that I like the nuggets at Wendy's better. Let's hope that they don't go in the same direction.
]]>Eh. 10 cents is reasonable, I think. And I think this policy will also help with waste -- a lot of the time, people will say "extra sauce!" but only use one packet. And then toss the rest.
]]>You say that like McDonald's is giving away food.
They charge people thru the nose for menu items.
2 bucks for a coke that cost them 15 cents to "make"
and you're arguing for them over sauces?
I sincerely hope you either work for McDonalds or were being sarcastic. Any other option doesnt speak highly of your reasoning skills.
]]>I don't know high fructose corn syrup sounds more appetizing than bee vomit.
]]>You know they are serious, it's signed by !MGMT!
]]>A five piece gets you two sauces.
A six piece gets you only one sauce?
!WOO! !GO MGMT!
]]>However, the McDonalds in my area (Northern KY) all say that the extra BBQ sauce costs 25 cents a packet. 10 cents is a deal!
]]>Actually, this is an individual STORE issue. Notice it is signed "Sorry for any inconveniences, Management." and it is printed on plain white paper -- It is not an official McDonald's policy.
I've seen many stores try this, but not all do. I once paid for my order (via Credit Card) and asked for a sauce when they gave me my order. They demanded ten cents, so I paid --- Using another credit card.
I hope they got hit with a 35c fee to collect their damned 10c.
]]>I have some bad news for you.... That's not honey. It's a honey-like sauce made from high fructose corn syrup.
Take a look at the ingredients.
]]>I have asked at the window as well and have not gotten charged so I believe you are mistaken. Not all locations are as the one you worked at 2 decades ago.
]]>All of this used to concern me until I spent a week alternating between hugging the toilet and sitting on it this past January after eating a chicken sandwich. All three of us who ate one was sick for days. Haven't been to one since. By not eating there again it may have been the healthiest occurance of e-coli ever.
]]>@TVarmy: Supposed to compensate the loss leaders.
]]>Same in my area.
And I am all for it.
If someone wants that many packages of corn-syrup based glop to put on their food then why shouldn't they pay for it?
I don't want to subsidize their gluttony by having everything on the menu go up so somebody can have more sauce.
Pay for what you eat.
]]>Talk about passive aggressive notes!
]]>Maybe this is a good thing, people might stop eating disgusting fast food on the principle of that 10 cents...?
]]>Just go to Jack in the Box instead. They have ranch. And when you ask for it with your medium fries, they give you like ten handfuls of little ranches. It's awesome.
]]>@outinthedark: I agree...controlling the costs to the infinitly small level with slim margins is important. However, I think the sign should point inward. Mostly, its employees that are the biggest offenders. I was at McDs yesterday and got like 20 packets of ketchup to my one medium fry...
]]>BTW- They already cured my McRib addiction with their hide and seek "here for a limited time" (because it meets McD's needs at the moment),BS . Haven't had one in years.
Huge companies suck.
]]>What's the mark up on that $0.10 package of sauce? or $0.20 as another commenter said?
]]>@banderlin: I guess you don't get any now... 4 pieces isn't on the list.
]]>Thanks Consumerist!
]]>@corinthos
asking at the window would still get you charged. And paying with a twenty for 10cents would get you ones, pennies and dimes for change.
When complaining about grammar, it's best to keep yours correct. (See it's vs. its.)
]]>Wonder if who ever made up the sign is a MGMT (the band) fan?
Odd how its set off at the end after already saying it was from management.
]]>The grammar is fairly ass, but at least its free of typos.
]]>For example - I know my local Wendy's does this - but if I go though the drive-thru and ask for the extra sauce as I get my order and leaving, they will normally throw it in there without charging me.
]]>This is old news in Los Angeles. McDonald's has been sauce rationing for years here. However, I've never seen it posted on the door/window before.
They use a similar sign in L.A., but more gramatically correct. It is hidden by the sauce dispensor behind the counter, mostly it seems as a reminder to employees.
I wonder what the "sauce asked" quantity was to reach the the tipping point for them to post this notice? How much sauce can one person carry?
]]>I like chicken fries anyway. With a side of french fries and apple fries. and a fry shake. fry fry fry fry blah!
]]>It looks cheap, but so does going to a nice steakhouse, ordering a $40 steak and being told that sides will be extra. I don't begrudge a McDonald's franchisee their profits.
]]>This has been the policy at our local McDonalds for several years already.
]]>Well at least I can still refill my ketchup and mayo bottles for free.
]]>Tens cents isn't too bad. Mine have been charging like 20 for extra nugget sauces. I like sweet and sour for my fries. Most the time if I go through drive and don't ask for extra until the window they just give them to me for free.
]]>The McDonalds in SoCal have been doing this for a couple of years now. 90% of the time the drive thru person will give you whatever you ask for. I have been stocking up on BBQ sauce and Jalapeno relish for the upcoming "un-pleasantness".
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