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GavinEstecado
October 31, 2008 3:00 PM
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Seems like a good compromise. Not like I'd eat there anyway, but for those who do, giving up a slice of cheese to adjust for rising costs and inflation sounds fair to me.

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Xerloq
October 31, 2008 3:20 PM
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@GavinEstecado: Is a slice of cheese more expensive than the meat? Seriously, I love getting a double cheese, large fry and a drink for about $3. Given the markup on soda and fries, they make a ton of money off me at lunch time. Take away a $0.05 slice of cheese and I don't buy the burger, fries or drink.

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Project_J187
October 31, 2008 6:31 PM
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@Xerloq: Double cheeseburger: $0.99
Large Fry: $1.79
Drink: $1.29
Total: $4.07 without tax.

What Mcdonald's are you going to?

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Kloud
November 1, 2008 7:41 AM
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@Project_J187: Different markets, different prices.

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OhYeahAlright
October 31, 2008 7:04 PM
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@Project_J187: He meant dollar menu fries and drinks most likely.

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DeleteThisAccount
October 31, 2008 3:02 PM
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I think two slices of \"cheese\" was a bit much anyhow, cut some of the fat... not a terrible thing. Just don't short me on onions please.

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Whiskey Tango Foxtrot
October 31, 2008 8:05 PM
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@AngrySicilian: Fat isn't a terrible thing either. Its not what *makes* people fat. You should read Gary Taubes article in the New York Times titled \"What if Its All Been a Big Fat Lie?\" (Google is your friend.)

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TVarmy
November 1, 2008 2:47 AM
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@Neecy: It's true that a calorie is a calorie. However, fat has a greater caloric density (by weight and volume) than other types of calories, IIRC. Thus, there's more calories in less food. However, if avoiding fat causes someone to eat too many carbohydrates (especially simple ones), then that is no good either. Fat is delicious, and is satisfying in moderation, so it has a place in a proper diet. Also, it's worth saying that adding cheese to a hamburger is adding calories either way. Less cheese = less calories.

As for the burger, I think that's a good thing. I have never eaten there in my adult life, but from other fast food burgers (Wendy's), I'd say that cheese is a nice addition, but that one slice is probably enough to get the job done. What would be nice is if they made the cheese they use sharper and more flavorful, so those added calories are worth it.

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pjorg
October 31, 2008 3:03 PM
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I'd be lying if I said I ate at McDonald's often, but when I do, it's nice to be able to order off the $1 menu. So it's good to see them being responsive to what people want in this economic environment.

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zigziggityzoo
October 31, 2008 3:04 PM
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sounds like the Wendy's Double Stack.

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Snarkysnake
October 31, 2008 4:41 PM
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@zigziggityzoo:

Doubt that. Wendy's Double Stack is so bad that it should come with a warning label \"If swallowed,do not induce vomiting ,call physician immediately \". Good God,it's terrible. I much,much prefer the McD double cheeseburger.At least they are giving the product their best shot at success.

Note to any Wendy's executive that can read: The double stack is awful. If you're not going to do the job right and just make a \"me too\" product,why bother ?

Oh, yes, one more thing. Fix your damn commercials. A retarded box turtle could do a better job.

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mfokp
October 31, 2008 6:05 PM
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@Snarkysnake: Glad to see there are other people who share my hatred of that nasty \"W\" place :)

McDonald's may be only slightly better, but at least their food is edible.

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West Coast Secessionist
October 31, 2008 8:08 PM
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@mfokp: I worked for part of a summer at a McDonalds in MA. What I witnessed inside with respect to hygiene caused me to cross the parking lot in my McD's uniform and eat my lunch at Wendy's every day, eschewing the discounted employee meal.

I've always loved Wendy's.

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ret3
October 31, 2008 3:05 PM
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So, it's a double burger with cheese, which allows them to use any ratio of burger to cheese they like, as opposed to a double cheeseburger, which implies a 1:1 burger to cheese ratio. Clever compromise, that.

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tande04
October 31, 2008 3:28 PM
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@ret3: Not to argue with your cheese to burger math but wouldn't it just have to be a 2:1 ratio now. They couldn't really use any ratio of burger to cheese they wanted. 3:1 would be some kind of tripple light on the cheese grease fest. 2:0 would be a double burger and they wouldn't have the cheese at all. 1:1 would bring you back to the double cheese burger so you'd have to have a 2:1 ratio for a double burger with cheese.

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LiquidGravity
October 31, 2008 4:31 PM
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@tande04:
You have it kinda wrong. By not grouping the cheese with the burger they could in theory go to any ratio as long as pre-simplified the burger side would be 2.

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thebluepill
October 31, 2008 3:07 PM
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Even if the Double Cheese Burger becomes a Loss Leader, its still worth keeping it, AS-IS on the dollar menu. The $0.5c for the slice of cheese could cost them thousands of sales, every day.


I know I usually go to McD's and order 2 of them for me, but the kids always want a Happy Meal or Nuggests or the like. If I didnt have that mental note that I can get my meal of 2 doubles and a Fry for $3, It would make McDonalds less appealing.


Yes, 25c more for the burger does make it less of of a value for me to stop by there.

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Anonymous
January 9, 2009 6:19 PM
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@thebluepill: I am in total agreement with you. Happy Meal/Mighty Meal for the kids, but I (only) ordered 2 Double Cheeseburgers for myself. Since they've raised the price and taken it off the Dollar menu my Family has not even eaten at McDonalds...none of us. Bad call.

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little stripes
October 31, 2008 3:09 PM
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I'd be sad, but I'd still eat it. Covered in honey, of course. Yes, I am weird.

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Tank
October 31, 2008 6:47 PM
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@little stripes: lmao! that reminds me of some silly rhyme i learned when i was a kid:

i eat my peas with honey,
i've done it all my life.
it makes the peas taste funny,
but it keeps them on my knife.

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crazyasianman
October 31, 2008 3:35 PM
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@little stripes:
at first glance i briefly thought you meant that you'd be covered in honey as you ate it. me laughed

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little stripes
October 31, 2008 4:00 PM
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@crazyasianman: Well ... that could be fun if in the right context ;)


@kiadtisn: And yeah, some of 'em do but I've noticed not everyone does. Mmmm honey!

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SkokieGuy
October 31, 2008 3:20 PM
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@little stripes: You really pour honey onto your cheesburger? I regret that I must concur - you are weird!


Then again ketchup is loaded with high fructose corn syrup, so you could say it's honey-esque

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little stripes
October 31, 2008 3:28 PM
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@SkokieGuy: *laugh* I ONLY do it with the McDonald's cheeseburger. Something about the texture. Now that I think about it, it MIGHT work with Wendy's, but I haven't tried it yet.


I am odd, but I do like honey on almost anything. Mmmm honey.

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little stripes
October 31, 2008 3:28 PM
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@kiadtisn: SOME of them do. I know the one near my apartment does (I live in Phoenix). However, usually I walk there (it's like, a block away) and take the food home and cover it in cheese.

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kiadtisn
October 31, 2008 3:32 PM
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@little stripes: Some of them still do, huh? All the ones here quit a long time ago... :(
*fondly remembers Honey+McNuggets and fries*

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lpranal
October 31, 2008 4:01 PM
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@kiadtisn: I haven't found a mcdonald's in the state of wisconsin that doesn't have honey. Guess we're behind the times? but yeah, that combo kicks ass.

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BfloAnonChick
October 31, 2008 4:00 PM
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@kiadtisn: In Buffalo, it's still a regular staple. (And my McNugget dipping sauce of choice!) :-)

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little stripes
October 31, 2008 3:29 PM
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@little stripes: \"cover it in honey\" not cheese. Tho that might be yummy too.

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ALaterDayTD
October 31, 2008 3:13 PM
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Its not a bad compromise, but I do like me some of that 1 extra piece of cheese...

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SkokieGuy
October 31, 2008 3:15 PM
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Other media are reporting that eliminating one slice of cheese lowers the fat content by 15% and reduces the calories by 11%.


Sadly the burger will continue to only bear a distance similarity to actual beef.

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m4ximusprim3
October 31, 2008 5:25 PM
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@SkokieGuy: Hey man, most of it comes from actual cows!


McDonalds is just supporting the native american traditions of not wasting anything by using the whole animal. It's noble of them to serve you ground up eyeball-meat.

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West Coast Secessionist
October 31, 2008 8:10 PM
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@m4ximusprim3: *shudder* Ewwwwwwww. thanks for that image. :-/

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Scoobatz
October 31, 2008 3:17 PM
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Sounds fine to me. The one slice of cheese is still fairly thick. I'm sure it will continue to taste like a cheeseburger. Add the condiments, and I'm sure you'll never know the difference.

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samurailynn
October 31, 2008 3:17 PM
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The dollar menu is nice, but I like cheese on my burger. It's nice that they're compromising though. I'll probably just start order the quarter pounder with cheese. It's too big to actually finish, but two slices of cheese is awesome.

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Xerloq
October 31, 2008 3:22 PM
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@samurailynn: Most I ever ate (DQPs) was four in one sitting. That was 15 years ago... but I did it. I used to be able to finish a Bic Mack in three bites, too.

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samurailynn
October 31, 2008 3:18 PM
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@samurailynn: Actually, I never really ordered the double cheeseburger anyway... I usually just get the little tiny cheeseburger.

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SkokieGuy
October 31, 2008 3:17 PM
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Has there been any official comment by Mayor McCheese?

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MissPeacock
October 31, 2008 3:48 PM
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@SkokieGuy: Not yet. He's too busy trying to get the Hamburglar back in jail.

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Snarkysnake
October 31, 2008 4:44 PM
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@MissPeacock:

Uh, have you not heard ? Kent Brockman reports that those two were \"long time domestic partners\"...

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UnicornMaster
October 31, 2008 3:18 PM
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I never realised that fake cheese type food was that expensive.

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m4ximusprim3
October 31, 2008 5:26 PM
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@DeanOfAllTrades: It's actually a petroleum by-product, and you know how much oil costs these days...

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discounteggroll
October 31, 2008 3:23 PM
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I'll be honest, the 2 slices of cheese was a bit overwhelming.

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Applekid
October 31, 2008 3:26 PM
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We'll know what they vote when we see, at McDonalds headquarters, white smoke from the chimney.

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ganzhimself
October 31, 2008 3:27 PM
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I really wouldn't even notice, I mean it's a pretty small burger to begin with, and one piece of cheese is plenty.

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gmss0205
October 31, 2008 3:27 PM
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With the franchisees losing money on each double cheeseburger, I can't complain about the McDouble. Still a good deal (and probably better for you anyway).

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skehl
October 31, 2008 3:30 PM
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Our local McDonalds restaurants have been serving the double cheeseburger with once slice of cheese for months. I don't think most people noticed.

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t-r0y
October 31, 2008 3:31 PM
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Need another option for the vote:

(*) I don't give a rats a**.

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Chazon
October 31, 2008 3:31 PM
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I agree with some of the others - two pieces of cheese is too much for those 'mini' patties. Only one slice of cheese would be better for me and I would order it more.

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tevetorbes
October 31, 2008 3:36 PM
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*HORF*

Can we stop calling it a burger and cheese and instead refer to it as highly processed meat product and \"cheese\"?

G-R-O-S-S

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zarex42
October 31, 2008 3:41 PM
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@tevetorbes:

*yawn*. The burgers are 100% beef, and there's nothing wrong with it. It's cheap and efficient food, nothing to get all whiny over.

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little stripes
October 31, 2008 4:32 PM
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@zarex42: I know. I love the pompous assholes: \"OMG MCDONALD'S EEWW! I am way too perfect to eat THERE!\" as they stuff their faces full of soda and coffee and frozen foods.

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JulesNoctambule
October 31, 2008 5:43 PM
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@little stripes: Some of us actually avoid processed foods in general. Shocking, I know!

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Caslonbold
October 31, 2008 3:36 PM
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I paid $1.29 for the double cheese burger yesterday at the McD in Woodinville, Washington. So much for the dollar menu... I guess some places already did their own price adjustment.

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laserjobs
October 31, 2008 3:43 PM
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We are seeing huge deflation in commodity prices so give McDonalds an month and it will be profitabe again.

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Sathallrin
October 31, 2008 3:43 PM
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Works for me, I sometimes order the current double cheese with only 1 piece of cheese.

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jbutler9
October 31, 2008 3:44 PM
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I can't belive that everyone is falling for this trick gimick. First of all, why would you want to pay more for less. Get a backbone people and standup for America and stop being taken advantage of. Call, e-mail, and write to McDonalds and tell them that they need to keep it as it is or that you are just going to stop patroning their establishment.


Everywhere you turn these days, businesses are trying to give you less and make excuses as to why, whether it is gas prices, economy, or the polar ice caps melting. Gas prices have gone down (a little), and yet prices are staying the same.


So, lets do like they did back in the 70's and stop letting government and businesses try to make you pay for more and offer you less. Stop accepting that they know what is best for you. The only person that is going to take care of you is you, and if you fall for these shenanigans, then you should be taken advantage of.


I will officially end my eating relationship with McDonalds and will make my own juicy double burger with cheese using generic american cheese slices (tastes exactly the same, there is no difference) and meat from a local farmers slaughtering house. That will save me some money.

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InsaneNewman
October 31, 2008 4:37 PM
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@jbutler9:

Look, I don't like price increases/quantity reductions any more than the next guy, but a company (or individual) has a right to run their business as they see fit. McDonald's is not a charity... they have a huge marketing/research department, and I'm sure if they thought that the double cheeseburger would work as a loss leader (ergo growing sales), or that removing one slice of cheese would alienate too many customers, they wouldn't be doing it. This is a calculated risk.

This is the same issue I have with the repeated complaints about the \"grocery store shrink ray\"... yes, it sucks, but the average customer has shown that higher prices will make them turn to a competitor, whereas giving less for the same price won't. Right now, the economics make it difficult, if not impossible, for many companies to keep on giving the same quantity/quality for the same price. You have to ask yourself what you would do it if was your business - lose money on every sale, or adjust the item/pricing.

The old adage \"we're losing money on each one, but we'll make it up in volume\" never works. Selling a billion double cheese burgers at a loss of $.05 each (for instance) still means that McDonald's loses $50 MILLION DOLLARS.

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CountryJustice
October 31, 2008 3:52 PM
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@jbutler9: So, lets do like they did back in the 70's and stop letting government and businesses try to make you pay for more and offer you less.

That worked out well for you with the whole oil thing, did it?

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CountryJustice
October 31, 2008 3:47 PM
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The DCB left the dollar menu in Central Florida just earlier this year, and though I eat McDonald's maybe only once a month or so, it's sorely missed. At least the McChicken is still there.

I think this is a good compromise to get a similar product back on the dollar menu. While difference between paying the 30-cent increase on the DCB ishardly significant, the loss of perception of value makes me more quick to consider alternatives like Wendy's. Take away the notion that a customer is getting a good deal, and you'll lose more total sales than the price hike will make up for.

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pixiegirl1
October 31, 2008 3:53 PM
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I don't eat at mc d's very often but when I do I get the double cheeseburger. Personally I like the extra cheese on my burger it \"kills\" the taste of the burger for me, but that's just my opinion.

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Dilbitz
October 31, 2008 3:54 PM
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Hell, I want three slices on my burgers! BRING ON THE CHEESE!

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GuinevereRucker
October 31, 2008 3:55 PM
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People still eat at this place? I haven't eaten McCrap in over ten years, can't say I'm missing anything.

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harryhoody
October 31, 2008 4:07 PM
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Double cheeseburgers are *ghast* $1.19 in Miami...according to the local 11 o clock news...yes, this was a top story.

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mac-phisto
October 31, 2008 4:10 PM
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i stopped eating mcdonald's earlier this year, so i suppose it doesn't matter, but for awhile, the double cheeseburger was a staple of my diet. what made it a favorite over other fast food burgers was the extra slice of cheese.

seems like everyone's cutting the cheese lately. i noticed the wendy's double now only has one slice instead of 2 (i think even the triple only has one slice). =(

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Anonymous
October 31, 2008 4:14 PM
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Wasn't there already a 'McDouble' in the 90s with no cheese, possibly regional though? I'm surprised they are reusing this name. I remember a commercial with the character Eddie the Echo.

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lannister80
October 31, 2008 4:42 PM
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The cheese McDonald's uses is really quite gross, so I approve of this change.

Not sure what it is about the cheese they use, but it seems like normal American cheese that's had its \"cheesiness\" level amped up to about 11. Almost like they took the \"bite\" that makes cheese taste like cheese and amplified it to gross proportions.

I like normal, non-mutant American cheese, however.

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downwithmonstercable
October 31, 2008 4:53 PM
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Most franchises in the Seattle area sell the double cheeseburger for $1.29 now anyway. At least this one slicer will be on the dollar menu. I can not break my McDonald's habit :( When my wife was pregnant she wanted McDonald's french fries. So I'd go get them, and grab something for myself. I swear there is crack mixed into the burgers. Or else I'm having partial hydrogenation withdrawals.

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defectiveburger
October 31, 2008 5:52 PM
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the cheese is gross anyway, i usually scrape off as much as i can because it's way too fatty

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tortcat
October 31, 2008 6:13 PM
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I don't have a problem with this as I normally get them without the cheese anyhow ( the quality of the actual hamburger they use in the regular hamburgers is better then in the 1/lber).


But I would much rather have them on the $1 menu with one slice of cheese...even just a double hamburger then have them raise the price

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bcsus83
October 31, 2008 6:14 PM
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Call me crazy, but I don't understand what difference a few more cents makes on the double cheeseburger. I like it just the way it is. If they want to throw the \"McDouble\" on the dollar menu, whatever, as long as they leave the regular double cheeseburger on their regular menu, even if it *IS* like $1.50 instead of just a buck.

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lidor7
October 31, 2008 6:45 PM
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I'm confused, didn't they already raise prices? The McDonalds in downtown Seattle has never had $1 dbl cheeseburgers and the one in U-Village raised theirs to $1.29 a few months ago.

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mobilene
October 31, 2008 6:49 PM
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If McDs started charging $1.50 for the double cheeseburger, I'd still buy it.

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dvddesign
October 31, 2008 7:11 PM
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I don't eat at McDonalds anyway, so why would I care, other than it's just another product for their menu to help raise their bottom line by charging for a slice of cheese?

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working class Zer0
October 31, 2008 7:56 PM
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My local McDonalds is still selling the double cheesburger with 2 slices for $1.19 or a double hamburger with cheese (1 slice) for $1.00. Being the cheap dutchman I am I went for the double hamburger with cheese and found out that I like it much better. I think that the gubment cheese they use has a more intense unnatural flavoring then other artificial cheese products there by throwing off the burger to cheese ratio of the double cheeseburger.

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Imakeholesinu
October 31, 2008 8:18 PM
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The Dollar double cheese burger has come and gone in STL. It was here for like a week and now it is no where to be found.

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Ysa
October 31, 2008 9:09 PM
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I'm jumping on the agreement bandwagon. Last time I had one the cheese was too much. Now if Wendy's put two slices on their much thicker double I'd be happy.

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jjason82
October 31, 2008 9:26 PM
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I just wish they'd let me order a double hamburger. No cheese at all. For some reason they charge you MORE to not have cheese, which makes no sense. That's cheese they get to keep. They're charging me for saving them money? What?

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Luckie
October 31, 2008 9:59 PM
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I never eat cheese on sandwiches anyway. It always pissed me off that I could get a double cheeseburger for $1.00 and a double hamburger for $1.29.

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Grrrrrrr, now with two buns made of bacon.
October 31, 2008 11:13 PM
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I like the two pieces of cheese, but given the choice of having a double burger on the dollar menu and not having any double burger, I can live with it. I wouldn't say two slices is too much cheese, but one would probably be perfectly adequate.

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scottboone
October 31, 2008 11:34 PM
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Soooooo, this would mean that the $1 McDouble would effectively be a BigMac ($3.59ish) minus the lettuce, special sauce, and mid-roll...how much do THEY cost?

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ninjatoddler
November 1, 2008 12:03 AM
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Cheese is overrated. There's enough fat in your McD fries so I'm glad they're cutting down on it. Regardless, I never get cheese on my burgers.

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Marshfield
November 1, 2008 3:06 AM
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The double cheese at the McDonalds on 4th ave in Seattle was $1.39 today. The dollar double cheese is so yesterday.

Now if you are lucky you can get a double BURGER no cheese for a buck.

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OMAC
November 1, 2008 3:05 PM
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I am all for the single slice of cheese on the McDouble. What gets me is the half-slice of cheese on the Filet-o-fish. Putting half of a slice of cheese on it seems ridiculous.

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Demonbird
November 1, 2008 4:11 PM
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I like my double cheeseburgers, and I like them with CHEESE.
Two pieces of bread, two patties, two pieces of cheese.
All they are trying to do by introducing both is prove folks will buy a shittier double cheese so they can remove the double cheeseburger altogether.

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Blueskylaw
November 1, 2008 8:17 PM
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\"The recommendation to add McDouble to our popular Dollar Menu reflects that we're . . . providing our customers even more choices, with the everyday affordability our customers expect,\"


Sounds like BS to me. The Mickie D,s over here has the double CB for $1. So they tell me that by charging more for it they are giving me more choices? Making it everyday affordable by taking cheese away from it?


Come on Mickie D's, why can't you just say that do to rising commodity prices we either have to raise our prices or make the item smaller. See, no BS.

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Grrrrrrr, now with two buns made of bacon.
November 2, 2008 3:24 AM
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@Blueskylaw: Sounds like spin!

Kind of like \"Your call is important to us.\" I agree...just cut the BS and tell it like it is.

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November 2, 2008 3:28 AM
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@ thebluepill

A slice of cheese is more than 5 cents. every double cheeseburger they sell is at a loss of about 38 cents. they never thought that the consumer would make it a staple of their diet and some MCD's are reporting double cheeseburger sales of 60% of their entire lunch menu sales! at that rate MCD franchisee's would start dropping like flies within 12 month's

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stre
November 3, 2008 6:48 PM
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already seen it! stopped at a McD's for a quite bite on the way to a wedding in northeast wisconsin and they had these, though they were called \"double hamburger with cheese\". girlfriend got one and it was a double patty burger, with 1 slice of cheese.

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Anonymous
January 4, 2009 3:37 AM
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I just ordered my son a new McDouble one slice of cheese $1.00 and my self the same but hold the cheese (just a double Hamburg) for witch they charged $1.19 (A Double Cheeseburger no cheese)WHY!!! the Clirk said thats how they were told to ring them up!!

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