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BeeBoo
September 20, 2008 8:22 PM
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I can close my eyes and not see the pr0n. It's pretty hard to block out someone on a cell phone.

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doctor_cos wants you to remain calm
September 20, 2008 8:49 PM
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@BeeBoo: Ahhhh...but turning up the volume on the pr0n would help mask the jabber.

If you're going to blab away on a cell phone next to me on a flight, you better be prepared to eat the phone (or have it otherwise implanted internally). I'm just sayin'

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smartmuffin
September 20, 2008 8:25 PM
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I understand the good intentions here, but who exactly are they to police what you can and can't watch on your own computer?


Obviously it wouldn't be considered in good taste to watch hardcore porn on your laptop while seated next to strangers, but how are you going to make them stop? Where do you draw the line? Hardcore? Softcore? R-rated movies? Family Guy episodes? Even if you don't have an active internet connection, you could still easily watch porn already saved to your HD.

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chargernj
September 20, 2008 8:52 PM
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@smartmuffin: Can't agree with you. Just because you have the right to watch porn, which I support. You don't have the right to watch it wherever and whenever you please.

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emptydarkone
September 20, 2008 8:45 PM
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@smartmuffin: I should think it would come down to morals. If you (generalization meaning most people) wouldn't watch it in front of your mother or grandmother, then don't watch it on an airplane. Simple as that.

Then again, there are those people out there that WOULD do those things in front of their mother or grandmother. I'm sure there are applicable laws about public indecency or something along those lines. I know it came about here in Springfield as certain people were putting large monitors in their vehicles and showing porn while driving down the street. Not that I don't enjoy a good movie now and then, but not when I'm in a group of people.

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cheesedoodle
September 20, 2008 8:41 PM
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No problem, as long as your computer is in a private place - not a plane...


In this age of portable technology, what happened to good sense, good manners and a general awareness of what you do in public and what you do in private?


Just becuase you have cell phone doesn't mean we all want to hear your conversation. Just because you feel like viewing porn on your portable laptop, doesn't mean that we want to see it too.


I can't believe that flight attendants actually have to tell people this! Although I am not at all surprised, given what I have been subjected to by men sitting next to me with thier laptops on the commuter train.


Pornography is generally viewed for pleasure and some degree of sexual stimulation. While pleasue seeking can be public, sexual stimulation is usually a private matter...

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baconqurlyq
September 20, 2008 8:41 PM
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It wouldn't be considered in good taste to watch hardcore porn while on a plane, but human beings tend to be odd, and sometimes stupid, individuals.

It's like any other scenario where you're stuck next to a person for several hours - either you speak up for yourself and your sanity or suck it up for the duration. In that situation, you're sharing personal space, and reasonable requests for considerate behavior shouldn't be considered weird.

As far as where the line gets drawn - I think YMMV. I don't think I'd be bugged by someone sitting next to me looking at, say, a Playboy (hey, the articles are really great), but if I had kids and our neighbor was watching \"Back Door Babes #21\" on his laptop, I'd probably ask him to shut it off, and if that didn't work, ask to be swapped with someone else.

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The Count of Monte Fisto
September 20, 2008 8:46 PM
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America, the land of prudes. Can I request Southwest stewardesses not fucking sing over the PA during my flight?

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sleze69
September 20, 2008 8:48 PM
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What's worse? Depends on the porn and if I can hear it.


If it is normal hardcore and the guy is wearing headphones, Skype is worse. If it is German Donkey porn and the moans and neighs are blaring out of his speakers, then the porn is worse.

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jbl-az
September 20, 2008 8:54 PM
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\"What's worse: sitting next to a guy watching porn, or sitting next to a guy yabbering away on Skype?\"

Obviously it depends on whether the guy will let you watch too.

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cecilsaxon
September 20, 2008 10:16 PM
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@jbl-az:

Ack- worse- he asks you to watch with him.

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Julius Seizure
September 20, 2008 9:02 PM
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We flew Air Canada recently. They have back of seat video systems on most of their new planes - even for us plebs in Economy. They system has a vast number of choices available.

I initially chose a series of short student films (Vancouver Film School) but the first one had a \"nudity and violence\" warning so I stopped and went elsewhere. (There was a gal with a toddler sitting behind us and I didn't want to get mixed up in a \"Momma what are those\" scenes.)

And if the guy next to you is watching \"VERY Popular Mechanics\" that wasn't me, doesn't even LOOK like me and besides what I did get through college is my business.

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closed_account
September 20, 2008 9:05 PM
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Haven't they thought far enough ahead to think about the fact that people that view porn already have it stored on their device? Internet access will not stop anyone that wants to look at porn on their flight. The option is already there. What they need to do is ask travelers to submit their hard drives (and all other devices with screens) for inspection prior to each flight. They could then scan all memory on the device and either allow it or confiscate it. This would ensure that no porn made it on board for anyone to watch. There would need to be a charge for this scan, of course.

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Lepoth
September 20, 2008 10:03 PM
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@chadbailey: That would never fly. Not only would some people be embarrassed to have others know that they have porn on their PC, but people (especially business people) w/sensitive info would never allow a third party to scan their HDDs.

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closed_account
October 12, 2008 3:21 AM
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@Lepoth: I wasnt serious? (sorry, I thought it was obvious?)

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sleepydumbdude
September 20, 2008 9:11 PM
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Depends what they call porn. I once had to leave a hospital and put a maxim magazine in my car because someone was offended by it.

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eelmonger
September 20, 2008 9:25 PM
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When I came into this thread, I thought it was going to be about people watching porn already stored on their laptops or with portable DVD players. It seems like if this were an issue it would have been long ago. On the plus side, it's given me a new anti-child maneuver on the plane: keep a generic porno on my laptop and if I get stuck next to an annoying kid, play it. Hopefully the parents will noticed and move him, or at least the kid will shut up and pay attention to the movie.

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yikz
September 20, 2008 9:31 PM
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Why is that the flight attendants only want to block porn from wi-fi? Laptops have been around for 20 years. People with hard drives full of porn have been flying for a long time. Why do the flight attendants make a stand now? What about portable DVD players? What's stopping people from whipping out their porn DVD's? Why is it now that the attendants suddenly show their concern? Why isn't the flight attendant's union concerned about adult magazines? They're sold in every airport... yet we never hear them complain about it?

I don't believe it's a problem. It's the flight attendant's union flexing their muscle. They think that someone MIGHT watch porn, so it's a problem. The flight attendants' union is a bunch of luddites who believe that internet access is bad.

I'm platinum, I fly every other week. I've yet to see anyone looking at porn in an airport, on the plane.
I probably would not like it if someone was sitting next to me browsing porn, but I wouldn't make a scene. I'd probably hand them a blanket and a stack of pillows and say, \"keep it to yourself.\"

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juniper
September 20, 2008 9:36 PM
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While it's a slippery slope towards legislating morality, wouldn't it be easy to just make \"not watching pornographic materials on the computer\" part of the contract of carriage? I mean, just make it a policy in writing, and if someone on the plane is watching porn, the flight attendant can say, \"you signed a contract when you bought your ticket that said you wouldn't do that, now please put it away.\"

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mrsultana can't get a password to work
September 20, 2008 9:48 PM
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Oooh, what about someone doing Skype-sex with his girlfriend? That's a double-whammy!

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sixseeds
September 20, 2008 9:49 PM
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I'm anti-legislating morality and generally pro-porn, but I'd be creeped out if my seatmate was watching porn, especially if it was going to be a long flight. This is partly b/c I'm a woman who usually flies alone (and who read a story on this very site of a solo female traveler who woke up with semen in her hair), and partly b/c I believe in private and public acts -- I don't want to be in a cubicle next to somebody watching porn at the office, either. There's something really unsettling about the idea of someone who cannot even make it to a private venue or last a few hours without sexual stimulation.

Does that make any sense?

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Clold
September 21, 2008 12:25 AM
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@sixseeds:

\"I'd be creeped out if my seatmate was watching porn\"

I don't see the conflict. There's no right to never be \"creeped out\".

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sixseeds
September 22, 2008 5:14 PM
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@Clold: To rephrase, then, there's no right to never be uncomfortable, so if I were to light up next to you or start talking loudly on my phone, that would be OK? Someone watching porn on a plane is showing either 1) a serious lack of self control or 2) a willingness or desire to make others uncomfortable. As SF_iris pointed out, a plane is an enclosed, inescapable public space, and in any public space we have the right to expect some restraint from those around us, and to extend that restraint to them.

@johnnya2: Have you flown lately? Most planes are so cramped and the seats so narrow that it takes more effort NOT to see what your seatmate's up to.

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thelushie
September 21, 2008 12:06 AM
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@sixseeds: That makes perfect sense. People typically watch porn to get turned on (seriously, is anyone watching it for the artistic aspect). The individual sitting watching porn on a plane is getting aroused. Things happen when blood leaves the brain for the nether regions.

@mrsultana: I have seen medical pictures and there isn't anything sexual about them. But that brings up a point of distinction. Are naked people pictures ok (ala medical book) or just photos and movies that are meant to sexually stimulate.

Note: Yes, I realize that there are those who will get turned on by Human Anatomy, 2nd Edition. But usually that is not the case.

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Amy Alkon
September 20, 2008 9:56 PM
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I suspect most guys (because let's be honest, you're unlikely to see a woman watching Buttlestar Gallactica or whatever) aren't going to watch porn on a plane anyway or hide it well -- maybe watching on some tiny screen...which is why people who fly with some regularity (like my boyfriend) don't report seeing it. Most or many guys would probabliy be embarrassed to be spotted watching it, especially if the kid across the aisle points out a visible woodie. \"Mommy, how come that man's pants have that big bump in them?\"

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cordeliapotter
September 22, 2008 2:38 PM
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My boyfriend and I were watching Battlestar Galactica on our laptop on a bus, and this 3-4 year old girl walked down the aisle to us and started watching it. We were fine with it because she had been screaming her head of for the past 2 hours, and now she was silent. But then these super violent scenes came on, and it actually didn't occur to us to try to block it for some time. It might be different with porn since that has such a taboo and most people would be more aware about who else is watching it, but I think people expect parents to, you know, parent their kids.

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Khuluna
September 20, 2008 10:22 PM
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So long as they're not jacking off or groping ME, I don't care.

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cmdrsass
September 20, 2008 10:27 PM
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What are the sky waitresses worried about? Ask the user to stop and if he doesn't, slap an \"interfering with a flight crew\" charge on him.

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Fly Girl
September 20, 2008 11:22 PM
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Isn't it, like, technically illegal to show porn to anyone under the age of 18? If it is, it would seem easy enough to block access to pornography on the plane's WiFi on that basis without getting too many arguments. (And who wants to be the creep arguing with a flight attendant about their inability to access XTube?!)

I mean, unless the airline is going \"Adults Only,\" there's a pretty good chance that there will be a kid within eyeshot of the porn. Besides, I'm as sex-positive as the next person, but who can't get through a flight without watching porn? I mean, c'mon!

The argument that filtering adult-oriented websites might lead to more censorship, and that it's a slippery slope, is a pretty flawed one... It's the same argument that people opposed to gay marriage make-- \"What's next?! Marrying a sibling?! Marrying a goat?! If we open up marriage to teh gays, then we're going to have to let pedos marry four year old girls!\"

I have no problem, whatsoever, with airlines opting to ban adult material over their WiFi. It would seem easier (for everyone) than making the poor flight attendants confront creeps who decide that they just can't make it through the flight without teh pr0ns.

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mrsultana can't get a password to work
September 21, 2008 12:07 AM
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@Fly Girl:
Oh, and I'm all for the idea of an \"Adults Only\" airline.

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dragon:ONE
September 21, 2008 1:56 AM
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@mrsultana: \"Oh, Stewardess! Can you help me lock my tray table in the upright position if you know what I mean?\"

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Fly Girl
September 21, 2008 12:30 AM
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@mrsultana: I get what you're saying about possibility of the filters not allowing medical cock shots, but... I still think it's easier for the airline just to block out risque content than to risk having to have a confrontation with some asshat that thought it would be a good idea to google Two Girls-One Cup during his flight. (Or her flight! Girls can be pervs, too!)

While it would have been inconvenient for you to not be able to do your homework on the flight, I think that the number of put out med students would be pretty slim, and that the good (of blocking teh pr0n) outweighs the bad (of possibly blocking other stuff)...

That being said... I, too, am all for the idea of an \"Adults Only\" airline!!! :)

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mrsultana can't get a password to work
September 20, 2008 11:56 PM
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@Fly Girl: Actually, not that slippery of a slope. I just graduated from nursing school and use my laptop to study for my boards. During my last semester, I was doing a module on women's health. That involved some pictures of drawn anatomy, including naked genitalia. Is that inappropriate?

At my school, they installed a filtering system that messed things up for an entire week because many medical sites have appropriate naked pictures on them. They ended up having to drop the entire system because it would even flag sites that use the words \"breast\" or \"penis\".

So, who decides the filter and what is appropriate and what isn't? I'm not for some guy (or gal) rubbing away next to me on a flight, but I can't see a scenario where I would be upset saying to someone, \"Hey idiot, knock it off and navigate away from Fleshbot.com.\" (no offense, admins)

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forgottenpassword
September 20, 2008 11:35 PM
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its must be those perverted drunken japanese salarymen.

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ShadowFalls
September 20, 2008 11:41 PM
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Come on people, no real defense for it. Kids fly on airplanes too, they don't need to be seeing that. Its a liability issue in the least for any airline, that would be why they are pressing for it.

People don't need to be watching porn in a public area at all, yet alone anywhere where a kid can walk by and see it.

No need for inspections, just simply breaking this rule should result in some type of penalty.

Also, there is a great difference between nudity and porn before anyone else decides to point out \"R\" Rated films.

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Candace Parker's Secret Lover
September 20, 2008 11:54 PM
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As long as the guy's not pulling a Pee Wee Herman next to me, I can live with it...it's pretty disgusting that so many people feel comfortable enough to watch porn in public though.

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BytheSea
September 20, 2008 11:58 PM
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Watching porn in public is a deliberate act. People do it to make the person next to them feel uncomfortable and degraded. It's sexual harassment.

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cuiusquemodi
September 21, 2008 12:35 AM
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@BytheSea: Must we ascribe to malice what can just as easily be ascribed to not-giving-a-rats-ass-about-other-people rather than accusing them of intentional torts?

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Novaload
September 21, 2008 4:29 AM
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@Corporate-Shill: A second \"well said.\"

And it's not a far leap to the person talking loudly on a cell phone and infringing on everyone's right to peace and quiet. They know exactly what they are doing, and that it irritates people. Perfect passive-aggressive enabler.
I spoke up to a man in a rather small waiting area who suddenly decided he needed to discuss his dinner last night at Olive Garden with some poor bored feeb. He did so very loudly, drowning out the TV (news). I politely said \"I'm sorry, but we can't hear the news.\" He made a loud comment to his phone-mate about someone saying he was talking too loudly, and went out among the corridors and other areas--but not outside, though it was a lovely day--and funnily enough, he ran out of things to say very quickly. No audience. No one to annoy, no fun.

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Phillip M. Vector
September 21, 2008 2:47 PM
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@NovaloadMissesPolar: \"infringing on everyone's right to peace and quiet.\"

Tell me... What amendment gives a person that right? Seriously. Is there an amendment that I don't know about?

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JustThatGuy3
September 21, 2008 4:04 PM
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@Phillip M. Vector:

It's called the 0th amendment, key to a functioning society: Don't be a jackass.

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Phillip M. Vector
September 21, 2008 6:50 PM
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@JustThatGuy3: I never said it wasn't necessary for a functioning society. I mearly pointed out that people don't have the RIGHT not to be offended. Expectation, yes. Right, No.

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JustThatGuy3
September 22, 2008 11:46 AM
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@Trai_Dep:


One teensy-weensy difference - the airline owns (or leases) the plane.

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Corporate-Shill
September 21, 2008 12:03 AM
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The 'net might be free and open, but when you are on the plane you are using the airline's portal to the web. Your boss can filter your access to the stuff while you are at work or otherwise using their equipment, so why can't the airlines use the same filters?


Besides, does somebody's 7 year old really need to get an eyeful or earful of ... well you get the idea, much less the friends of flying waitress that actually starred in the flick?

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mrsultana can't get a password to work
September 21, 2008 12:05 AM
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Ooops, forgot to mention, I was doing that module on a flight to Portland. Nobody seemed to mind.

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HawkWolf
September 21, 2008 2:04 AM
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Who just watches porn for a view hours and doesn't... touch themselves at the same time? It's not like you can watch a hardcore porn the way you can watch a movie.

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ludwigk
September 21, 2008 2:09 AM
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I'm really confused. If you can't watch porn, and can't use skype, what's the point of putting wifi on the plane? To be sure, watching porn on your laptop has nothing to do with wifi. You can dl movies and rip DVDs to the hdd, so filtering can't possibly catch everyting.

Are they preventing skype use because it competes with their $6/min in flodht phone service?

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s25843
September 21, 2008 2:50 AM
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@ludwigk:


Most airlines don't have those phones anyways. I was involved in a Focus Group for a major airline thinking about installing the Wi-Fi, and that was one of the questions rasied.


The answer from 8 out of 10 of the people in the group was that they view the plane as a relative place of peace, and its one of the last untouched areas on earth where you don't have to hear 100 cell conversations, and they'd rather it remain that way

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Quatre707
September 21, 2008 2:11 AM
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This all falls on the definition of pornography. Are these people watching hardcore pornography, or something different? If what they are viewing is perhaps an adult message board, or \"hook up\" website, similar to what so many social networking sites have become, it's still inappropriate, but I don't think as offensive.

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varro
September 21, 2008 3:11 AM
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I can't believe no one has pulled out this old meme:

(Passenger watching \"MILFs Volume 73\".)
Neville: \"Enough is enough! I have had it with this motherf*cking porn on this motherf*cking plane!\"

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roche
September 21, 2008 4:51 AM
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I'm sorry but I just cannot enjoy my flight unless I have my meatspin.

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randomangela47
September 21, 2008 5:23 AM
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I see two solutions to people watching porn on an airplane.

1. Shout loudly so that the entire plane knows what a skeeze is in the seat next to me. If you don't have the human decency to take that to a private location, don't expect me to ask you anything politely.

2. Document the child sitting within eyesight, make sure the creep is prosecuted under every chester-the-molester law there is. It's illegal to expose children to porn (to clarify, if you're getting this reaction from me, it's more graphic than what you'll see on HBO or Skinemax).

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Phillip M. Vector
September 21, 2008 2:50 PM
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@randomangela47: \"It's illegal to expose children to porn\"

Not necessarily.

[www.lisnews.org]

First google link I pulled up.

It always humors me that people get so upset when children see 2 people make love, but yet, when 2 people are hitting each other, it's not an issue.

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thelushie
September 21, 2008 4:17 PM
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@Phillip M. Vector: I hardly call most porn \"making love\". That's hilarious. The only time violence is appropriate is when it is justified... in defense of yourself, your family or the weak.

As a woman who travels alone, I personally don't want the guy next to me getting sexually aroused. Porn is used for sexual arousal. Some people can't control themselves.

@johnnya2: Hey, if you don't want your sensitive documents looked at by others on a plane, don't have them up on your laptop screen! Take some responsibility for your workplace property.

And if you are looking at porn on your laptop while sitting next to me and end up with a knot on your head due to my fist \"slipping\" don't go running to the FA moaning and throwing a temper tantrum because a girl tried to beat you up. (And if a person is looking at porn on a plane, I probably could beat the shit out of them because if they were not complete pansies, they would have nothing to prove which would mean they would have consideration for others.) And violence is justified in this case, because porn can be highly disturbing and someone who has been raped, etc doesn't need to go into flashbacks on a plane.

These bullshit attitudes of \"I can do anything I want and I don't care about anyone else\" are for the birds. Stop acting like you were born in a barn and have some considerations for others. And sometimes these are the same people who want you to believe that they are educated and have some stature in the community. Ha!

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johnnya2
September 22, 2008 2:22 PM
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@thelushie: well I can assure you based on your posts no guy is ever sexually aroused sitting next to you. You show what a classless person you are by deciding to look over peoples shoulders and care what they watch. IT IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS. Stop snooping and look forward you nosy b*tch.

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silver-bolt
September 21, 2008 5:50 PM
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@thelushie: OMG pron makes people sexual deviants who can't control themselves....

That's right up there with there was no such thing as violent killings before video games and Allowing gays to marry promotes bestiality and pedophila...

-_-

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Phillip M. Vector
September 21, 2008 6:51 PM
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@silver-bolt: LOL!

I was going to reply to her, but you pretty much summed it up. :)

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Hongfiately
September 21, 2008 5:54 AM
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The problem for AA here is without some sort of filtering combined with an Acceptable Use Policy, they are an easy target to be sued fostering a hostile work environment. It's not just employees, but passengers who could be offended and have grounds to sue AA.

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Trai_Dep
September 21, 2008 6:17 AM
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If it's really GOOD porn, the only polite thing to do is share.
But everyone, please use your own tissue - to do else is unsanitary.

If someone takes their laptop into the lavatory and returns to his seat red-faced and panting fifteen minutes later, does that count as the Mile High Club? Or would that be more, Half-Mile High Club?

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redkamel
September 21, 2008 6:26 AM
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we;, I'd rather sit next to someone watching hardcore porn (with headphones) than someone who wants to tell me about God, an extremely fat person who takes up all the room, or someone with a screaming baby.

@Trai_Dep: I think that would count as joining the Mile High Junior Fan Club.

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CapitalC
September 21, 2008 6:59 AM
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Is staring at the Goatse guy considered pr0n?

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Angryrider
September 21, 2008 11:36 AM
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I'd take the cellphone talker over the porn guy anyday. I'm trying hard not to freak out at the guy jackin' off next to me, but damn! I'm breathing the same air as him?

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johnnya2
September 21, 2008 12:50 PM
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If you don't want tot see the porn, don't look at it. I have sensitive work documents when I travel and if the FA or another passenger is looking at my screeen I will tell them to mind their own business. I don't look over your shoulder at the book you are reading, or rummage through your personal belongings. I would say this goes as such a non-issue if you would just mind your own business. I suppose you could write every conceivable possibility into rules, but what if somebody decided to play music through a boombox, or smear feces on his tray. You can never stop all things proactively.
I know people who have downloaded porn on their IPODS and watch it at the gym while working out. Its possible somebody else could see it, but they would have to work it to do so.

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EdnaLegume
September 21, 2008 1:58 PM
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@johnnya2: if you're viewing sensitive work documents on a public plane, aren't you the wingnut? That seats closely with talking on a cellphone in public and getting annoyed that people around you are eavesdropping.

Don't they have those screen adapters that make it very difficult to view the screen unless you're directly in front? That and headphones would eliminate some of the issue. I agree those doing it are doing it to annoy the folks around them. Granted I'm sure there's the random perv that gets off on the entire scenario.

My question is can you take air horns on a plane? If so... use accordingly. Perhaps you have a fingerpaint hobby.. woopsy, your fingerpaints got all over your seat mates laptop screen. Seat mate watching porn, start telling him all about your last family reunion. The sweater your grandmother knitted you. Your grandmother in her knickers. A new question every thirty seconds about porn. Anything to kill the mood.

There's a \"squeaky wheel\" way to deal with situations and there are \"I'm going to glean some entertainment from this anyway I can\" way. Complaining to someone rarely does anything these days, so I might as well handle it in a way most likely to rectify the situation, and make me laugh at the same time. *results may vary*

As for cell phone calls, I just join in on the conversation. \"what'd he say?\", \"who is it?\"
After all, they're just invading my public.

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Sky_King
September 21, 2008 1:00 PM
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The aircraft is a work environment, semi-public place and not your residence. As a captain of an airliner, I would at least be giving you a convesration with the local police at the destination.

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smartmuffin
September 21, 2008 2:34 PM
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I'm not trying to defend people's \"right to watch porn\" or any such thing, it just seems that the airline is being contradictory here.


\"American's attendants don't want to become ``moral policemen,'' said Frank Bastien, a spokesman at the union's headquarters. Attendants also don't want to be exposed to laptop images of violence or pornography, he said\"


See, those are two contradictory statements. You can't have them both. You either have to become moral policemen, or you have to accept that some people don't have the \"common sense\" to not watch porn in public.


Courts have defended the right to access porn in public libraries. How is that significantly different from this?

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Corbin123
September 21, 2008 4:10 PM
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lol at people actually arguing pro-watch hardcore porn on a plane. Why not just make the in flight movie Pirates XXX?

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dmuth
September 21, 2008 6:02 PM
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I'll be happy to make a deal with the airlines: They stop charging me $25 per checked bag, and I'll stop watching porn on the flight.

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Trai_Dep
September 21, 2008 7:57 PM
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I think the laptop porn brigade should adapt a Mutually Assured Destruction pact with the Airlines Plastering Ads Everywhere faction. Keep your ads from polluting my visual space and I'll keep my porn from \"polluting\" the cabin.
Otherwise: you violate MY sensibilities, I'll violate yours. Seems fair.

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rubella
September 22, 2008 12:30 AM
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Are xxx magazines banned from flights? I mean I'm sure the issue of porn on planes has been addressed before this new fangled internet thing ever came around.

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LatherRinseRepeat
September 22, 2008 3:01 AM
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Why watch porn on an airplane? If you can't wait until you land and get to your hotel room, then you've got some issues. Seek help.

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dragonfire81
September 22, 2008 3:44 AM
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I am racking my brain trying to figure out why ANYONE would want to watch porn while working out...

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Alan Thomas
September 22, 2008 12:49 PM
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This is a pseudo-public space, and all passengers should have a reasonable expectation of an environment--similar to a work environment--that doesn't contain material that might be offense in the \"intimidating/hostile environment\" sense.


It becomes a huge issue if there are children within eye-shot of the material. The passenger could be arrested and prosecuted for any one of a number of charges (corrupting a minor, etc.), and the airline could have a liability.


For Pete's sake, just keep it in your pants for a few hours. If smokers can do it, surely porn addicts can, too.

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Rectilinear Propagation
September 22, 2008 2:08 PM
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If the person next to you is watching porn then start yabbering away on your Skype.

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bdgbill
September 22, 2008 2:41 PM
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The time to argue about this was when laptops were first used on planes not wifi.


I have enough porn on my computer to watch non-stop from New York to Tokyo if I wanted - no internet cnnection required.


I think these flight attendents are probaby more worried about customers filing complaints about them from the flight while they are still good and pissed off.

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smirkette
September 22, 2008 2:54 PM
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I think this needs a poll: Pro porn on a plane v. No porn for you!

Regardless, I have to agree that while I don't think there's anything wrong with porn, I *do* think that any kind of porn should not be viewed on a plane; it's worse than at a library or other public place because 1) I had to pay a lot of money to be there and 2) I just can't leave. Almost all of the flights I've been on in the past year have been overbooked, and how many people are going to volunteer to switch seats with me to sit next to the pornster? Kid issue aside (and it's a huge issue), it's a shame that people have gotten so selfish.

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Phillip M. Vector
September 22, 2008 3:26 PM
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@SF_iris: \"I just can't leave.\"

VERY good point SF_Iris. Seriously. I hadn't thought about that.

No. I'm not being sarcastic. :)

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quirkyrachel
September 22, 2008 4:21 PM
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But if you watched pron on your laptop and there was a child sitting within eyeshot, would that be considered indecent exposure?

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graceless
September 22, 2008 4:38 PM
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If I'm sitting next to a pervert, I'd rather not know...

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econobiker
September 22, 2008 5:46 PM
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What if the plane is flying from, or over a state which bans p0rn from in vehicle DVD players?


Here in TN it is outlawed to play it in vehicle DVD players since some lawmaker freaked when he saw a blinged out SUV with a monster DVD screen putting out \"xxx\" fare at a stop light.


Or maybe the airlines will have \"all-p0rn\" flights to the Las Vegas Adult Entertainment Industry convention...

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RedwoodFlyer
October 15, 2008 5:27 PM
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1) I've yet to see any evidence of how anyone was actually harmed by pornography...and those BS studies done by bible thumpers who literally believe that a female orgasm is a sign of being posesed don't count

2) Take a redeye flight onboard us or jetBlue, watch the Daily Show...girls gone wild commercials galore.

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UtaTurco
October 16, 2008 3:56 PM
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If I were to sit next to someone on a plane watching porn, I would bust out my camera phone and take his (or I guess, her, maybe) photo. If he asked what I was doing, I would say: \"I'm taking a photo of you so I can email it to a couple of blogs later. What are you doing?\" If he has some sort of right to watch porn in a place like a plane, then I have the right to take his photo (which I would later use to attempt to publicly humiliate him).

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