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  <title>Comments for Find Out What People Paid For Their Cars</title>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5041558</id>
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    <published>2008-08-26T00:45:47Z</published>
    <updated>2008-08-26T01:12:29Z</updated>
    <title>Find Out What People Paid For Their Cars</title>
    <summary>--&gt;OpenCarPrice.com is a site dedicated to bringing you previously secret information, the actual price people are paying for their cars. Just select the make and model and the site spits out the info. The database gets filled by reader-submitted reports. There&apos;s no guarantee that everything is 100% accurate, but it can at least give you a better picture of what you you can reasonably expect to pay...and negotiate for. Another site that does this RealCarTips.</summary>
    <author>
      <name>Ben Popken</name>
      <uri>http://www.consumerist.com</uri>
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      <![CDATA[<p><!--<img src="http://consumerist.com/images/31/2008/08/opencarprice.jpg" width="494" height="114" />--><a href="http://OpenCarPrice.com">OpenCarPrice.com</a> is a site dedicated to bringing you previously secret information, the actual price people are paying for their cars. Just select the make and model and the site spits out the info. The database gets filled by reader-submitted reports. There's no guarantee that everything is 100% accurate, but it can at least give you a better picture of what you you can reasonably expect to pay...and negotiate for. Another site that does this <a href="http://www.realcartips.com/">RealCarTips</a>.</p>
<p><a href="http://OpenCarPrice.com">OpenCarPrice</a> [Official Site]<br />
<a href="http://www.realcartips.com/">RealCarTips</a> [Official Site]</p>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5041558-comment:7425080</id>
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    <title>Comment from fafi on 2008-08-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>fafi</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>it's pretty awful that you can't select/search by year. &amp; there's only cars from 2006+. the searching on that site is not so good. especially the first one.</p></p>]]>
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    <published>2008-08-26T18:05:02Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5041558-comment:7419889</id>
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    <title>Comment from Corporate-Shill on 2008-08-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>Corporate-Shill</name>
        <uri>n/a</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>I can envision a lot of problems..... the beggie is the purchasing cycle issue (end of the model year versus beginning of the model year). Small data bases are going to only amplify the issue.</p></p>]]>
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    <published>2008-08-26T06:33:01Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5041558-comment:7418590</id>
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    <title>Comment from forgottenpassword on 2008-08-26</title>
    <author>
        <name>forgottenpassword</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>wow! a whopping ONE person bought a jeep wrangler in missuri! What a great database!</p></p>]]>
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    <published>2008-08-26T05:09:06Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5041558-comment:7417788</id>
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    <title>Comment from greggf on 2008-08-25</title>
    <author>
        <name>greggf</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c7414877" rel="nofollow">GiselleBeardchen</a>:</p>
<p>Hi Giselle, This is Gregg, founder of RealCarTips.com.  I was afraid of the same thing when I started the site.  I figured car dealers would go in and put fake data.  There are a couple of things I'm doing to prevent this.  One is that I collect the IP address when someone submits a price.  If they try to submit more than 1 price, I get alerted.</p>
<p>So if a dealer tries to do that, they will only get away with 1 submission.  I also follow up via email whenever someone submits a top ranking price.</p>
<p>All in all, like one reader commented:  you gotta take all of this with a grain of salt.  There are price submissions where people have taken time to write out detailed comments on how they got their deal.  Those are the best ones to consider when figuring out what you should be paying.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-08-26T04:14:02Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5041558-comment:7417600</id>
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    <title>Comment from AbsoluteIrrelevance on 2008-08-25</title>
    <author>
        <name>AbsoluteIrrelevance</name>
        <uri>n/a</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>hybridcars.com does a similar thing, but only for hybrids.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-08-26T04:01:39Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5041558-comment:7417342</id>
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    <title>Comment from huadpe on 2008-08-25</title>
    <author>
        <name>huadpe</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>As an economist, I have to say that I'm dubious. Selection bias is going to mess this all up.  Generally the people who post there will be the kind of people likely to negotiate aggressively and want to brag about the low price they got.</p>
<p>That's useful info for people who are going to be negotiating, but doesn't tell us what the average actual price paid is.</p>
<p>Take these with a grain of salt, and don't expect to get these prices just by asking for them.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-08-26T03:45:13Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5041558-comment:7416585</id>
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    <title>Comment from b612markt on 2008-08-25</title>
    <author>
        <name>b612markt</name>
        <uri>http://www.markymix.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I used the forums at emunds.com to see how much others paid before I bought my car.  It was a great tool.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-08-26T02:57:59Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5041558-comment:7416404</id>
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    <title>Comment from Sudonum on 2008-08-25</title>
    <author>
        <name>Sudonum</name>
        <uri>http://n/a</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c7416042" rel="nofollow">Scuba Steve</a>: <br />
Certified used is the only way to go. Extended warranty backed by the dealership, and someone else takes the big first depreciation hit.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-08-26T02:49:48Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5041558-comment:7416310</id>
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    <title>Comment from bspero on 2008-08-25</title>
    <author>
        <name>bspero</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>It is good to have a central resource, but before I bought my Mazda, I poked around on a couple of Mazda message boards, and found a thread with a few hundred listings of what people paid. This site is easy if you don't want a lot of fuss, but if you want a really good collection of prices, almost every major brand has independent message boards associated with it that people post what they paid and what model they purchased.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-08-26T02:44:27Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5041558-comment:7416042</id>
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    <title>Comment from Scuba Steve on 2008-08-25</title>
    <author>
        <name>Scuba Steve</name>
        <uri>http://</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Hmmm.. I never buy new anyways.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-08-26T02:31:28Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5041558-comment:7415695</id>
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    <title>Comment from dragonvpm on 2008-08-25</title>
    <author>
        <name>dragonvpm</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c7414877" rel="nofollow">GiselleBeardchen</a>: I could see just as many (if not more) bored (and poor) college kids driving down the prices of cars they want/like.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-08-26T02:16:02Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5041558-comment:7415627</id>
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    <title>Comment from Tiber on 2008-08-25</title>
    <author>
        <name>Tiber</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c7414877" rel="nofollow">GiselleBeardchen</a>: What exactly are they going to do? People will look at the lowest price that others have haggled down to. So if salespeople add fake sales where people saved almost nothing, people will either ignore that data, or avoid that dealership altogether. If they add fake sales where people saved a ton, it will just lead to people coming in making unreasonable demands, since they believe someone else got it cheaper. About the only thing they could do is up the dealer's satisfaction rating.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-08-26T02:13:49Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5041558-comment:7415492</id>
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    <title>Comment from Traveshamockery on 2008-08-25</title>
    <author>
        <name>Traveshamockery</name>
        <uri>n/a</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c7414877" rel="nofollow">GiselleBeardchen</a>: I think you're right - that exact thing will happen once this site becomes known.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-08-26T02:08:08Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5041558-comment:7414877</id>
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    <title>Comment from GiselleBeardchen on 2008-08-25</title>
    <author>
        <name>GiselleBeardchen</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>A nice idea, but I have a vivid mental picture of mass armies of car salespersons with TONS of time on their hands (waiting for their "ups") loading these sites with total BS.</p></p>]]>
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    <published>2008-08-26T01:45:01Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5041558-comment:7414394</id>
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    <title>Comment from WiglyWorm must cease and decist on 2008-08-25</title>
    <author>
        <name>WiglyWorm must cease and decist</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>O.O I got a damn good deal when my fiance and I bought that Rav4.</p></p>]]>
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    <published>2008-08-26T01:27:49Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from BrianDaBrain on 2008-08-25</title>
    <author>
        <name>BrianDaBrain</name>
        <uri>http://</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>Now that is psiffy. Nice to see I'm on the lower end of the spectrum for my car!! :) Yay for financing through my credit union and negotiating before they knew it!!</p></p>]]>
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    <published>2008-08-26T01:22:28Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5041558-comment:7414112</id>
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    <title>Comment from admiral_stabbin on 2008-08-25</title>
    <author>
        <name>admiral_stabbin</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>I like the idea that both the sites are using...consumers working together tends to help consumers...but, I do have to agree that the information presented from RealCarTips is much more readable.</p></p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-08-26T01:19:12Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Ben Popken on 2008-08-25</title>
    <author>
        <name>Ben Popken</name>
        <uri>http://www.consumerist.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.consumerist.com">
        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c7413253" rel="nofollow">Rabbi Dave</a>: Thank! I'll add that in.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-08-26T01:16:05Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5041558-comment:7413253</id>
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    <title>Comment from AskCars on 2008-08-25</title>
    <author>
        <name>AskCars</name>
        <uri>http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/">
        <![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.realcartips.com/" rel="nofollow">[www.realcartips.com]</a></p>
<p>also does this, a bit cleaner site too IMHO</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-08-26T00:51:08Z</published>
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