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    <published>2008-04-28T20:11:12Z</published>
    <updated>2008-04-28T20:12:15Z</updated>
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    <summary>Definition: &quot;Zero Outs&quot; - What call centers call...</summary>
    <author>
      <name>Ben Popken</name>
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      <![CDATA[Definition: "<strong>Zero Outs</strong>" - What call centers call customer who, instead of climbing through the branches of the phone tree, keep pounding zero in hopes of bypassing straight to an operator.]]>
      
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5007082-comment:5465589</id>
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    <title>Comment from Tonguetied on 2008-05-01</title>
    <author>
        <name>Tonguetied</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>What's even more irritating is when the damn system tells you that it can't recognize what you're trying to do and instead of relaying you to an agent say "Please call back later" and hangs up on you.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-05-01T05:36:04Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5007082-comment:5421378</id>
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    <title>Comment from Communist Pope on 2008-04-29</title>
    <author>
        <name>Communist Pope</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I find that most auto systems will put you through to an operator if you say "operator" one or more times. (And do so pretty much every time.) Though after reading these comments, I guess they do that for any repeated "does not compute" statements.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-29T09:52:10Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5007082-comment:5414865</id>
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    <title>Comment from Narockstar on 2008-04-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>Narockstar</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Cursing doesn't work.  I've used every curse word in my vocabulary and that stupid $#*%ing C#^%fa@$d machine never gets it right.  I usually end up robotically repeating "customer service" for five minutes until the software gives up and transfers me to customer service.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-29T01:45:43Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5007082-comment:5414406</id>
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    <title>Comment from MercuryPDX on 2008-04-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>MercuryPDX</name>
        <uri>n/a</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I like to just say nothing and not press any buttons. They must refer to me as a "Faux-tary" (Faux + Rotary) user.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-29T01:27:41Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5007082-comment:5414103</id>
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    <title>Comment from P_Smith on 2008-04-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>P_Smith</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>This is why I'm glad I live in a big city.  When companies pulls this crap, I don't fool around with the phones, I go down there and bang on their doors.</p><br />
<p>This is why you should buy local in a smaller city, even if you pay more for it.  Getting in their face will get their attention.  Shop local, be vocal.</p><br />
<p>If they can't see you, the WILL try to ignore you.  That's why credit card chargebacks work, because it hits the company in the wallet and gets their attention.</p></p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-29T01:17:51Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5007082-comment:5413510</id>
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    <title>Comment from forgottenpassword on 2008-04-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>forgottenpassword</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>Yeah I've done it. Those phone trees are a pain in the ass! ANd half the time you arent given an option for what you need.</p><br />
<p>Sad thing is now, they dont use 0 anymore to go directly to operator...instead they hide the operator option somewhere in the maze of phone tree options.</p><br />
<p>I've heard in those phone trees that have voice recognition... you can curse &amp; it will direct you immediately to the operator.</p></p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-29T00:57:31Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5007082-comment:5412180</id>
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    <title>Comment from SacraBos on 2008-04-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>SacraBos</name>
        <uri>http://www.sacrabos.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Some of the system recognize hitting 0 several times quickly, and will route to the agent queue.</p>
<p>As for talking gibberish, I keep thinking of recording the Steve Carrell babbling in Bruce Almighty and playing that into a VRS.  Must have taken an ungodly number of takes to make it through that scene.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-29T00:11:07Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5007082-comment:5412171</id>
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    <title>Comment from LVP on 2008-04-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>LVP</name>
        <uri>http://candythepom.blogspot.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I dial the number then don't do anything, after a bit I get a real person. I act like I have a rotary phone.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-29T00:10:57Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5007082-comment:5412158</id>
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    <title>Comment from Traveshamockery on 2008-04-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>Traveshamockery</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I'm now:</p>
<p>1) A "Deeker"<br />
2) A "Zero Out"</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-29T00:10:18Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5007082-comment:5411722</id>
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    <title>Comment from t-r0y on 2008-04-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>t-r0y</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>On the voice prompt systems, I just say "Agent".  It's worked every time.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-28T23:54:23Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5007082-comment:5411301</id>
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    <title>Comment from RothRandom on 2008-04-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>RothRandom</name>
        <uri>http://</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>I just tried that 5 minutes ago to get to the Department of Motor Vehicles line and it actually worked. I pressed zero about 10 times and I got a really rude person. Sucks I got a really rude person, but it works.</p></p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-28T23:40:31Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5007082-comment:5410922</id>
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    <title>Comment from unklegwar on 2008-04-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>unklegwar</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c5410762" rel="nofollow">snoop-blog</a>: Right, cuz they wouldn't just route it to India. At least you can UNDERSTAND the automated systems.</p>
<p>The rock and the hard place: Automated Hell or a mushmouth mumbling incoherently with an indian accent.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-28T23:27:45Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5007082-comment:5410762</id>
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    <title>Comment from snoop-blog on 2008-04-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>snoop-blog</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>just think about how many americans would have jobs if auto-voice was banned.</p></p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-28T23:21:24Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5007082-comment:5409875</id>
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    <title>Comment from sburnap42 on 2008-04-28</title>
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        <name>sburnap42</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I did that with Dell just a half hour ago.  Someone apparently stole my card number and bought a Dell.  Their stupid system kept babbling about an order number which I, of course, didn't have.  The first time I hit zero, it then asked "home, small business or corporate".  How the hell would I know?  Ask the bastard who stole my number.  Fortunately, the second zero worked.</p>
<p>I have no patience for shitty voice mail systems.  I also want to punch whoever invented those damn voice recognition systems.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-28T22:48:16Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Daniel-Bham on 2008-04-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>Daniel-Bham</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c5406329" rel="nofollow">heavylee-again</a>: Yes.  At least I've had success by saying "F**K" over and over when it tells me to give a "short description of the problem" or "say one if...".</p>
<p>I've heard that they escalate you to the first available operator if it detects certain buzz words.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-28T22:10:30Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5007082-comment:5407435</id>
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    <title>Comment from mike on 2008-04-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>mike</name>
        <uri>http://www.mikesoh.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Verizon is by far the worst.  You have to press '0' several times because it asks you, "In order to route your call, please select..."</p>
<p>I really hate these systems.  If there is a queue, I should be told.  Provide a separate number for "automated tasks" like PIN resets and the like.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-28T21:10:14Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5007082-comment:5407257</id>
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    <title>Comment from Steaming Pile on 2008-04-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>Steaming Pile</name>
        <uri>http://www.steamingpileofcrap.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Next time I get one of those voice recognition systems (fuck you, Verizon) that don't work for shit, I'll start saying gibberish (or profanity) to it.  See whether I crash it or get an operator.</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-28T21:01:35Z</published>
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    <title>Comment from Youthier on 2008-04-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>Youthier</name>
        <uri>http://</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>@<a href="http://consumerist.com/5007082/#c5405701" rel="nofollow">SacraBos</a>: Definately. I will give your phone trees on shot. After that, I make my own rules.</p></p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-28T21:00:48Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5007082-comment:5407104</id>
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    <title>Comment from legotech on 2008-04-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>legotech</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p><a href="http://gethuman.com/" rel="nofollow">[gethuman.com]</a> is your friend.</p><br />
<p>Ways around the phone trees of tons of companies. (Including a few that hide like PayPal.)</p></p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-28T20:53:56Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5007082-comment:5406803</id>
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    <title>Comment from bigdirty on 2008-04-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>bigdirty</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Having an unlimited calling plan, I just look up the corporate office number and dial that rather than fish through any customer circus line. Infinitely more efficient, even got my hard drive replaced from HP.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-04-28T20:40:15Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5007082-comment:5406688</id>
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    <title>Comment from muddgirl on 2008-04-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>muddgirl</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>If I don't hear any options that I want in the first couple minutes, I will start pressing zero or saying gobblety-gook to the voice recognition software (which I hate, as I've got a crappy cell phone that doesn't seem to handle my voice very well).</p>
<p>But recently, I've noticed that this works less and less often. Pisses me off - if they don't want me to talk to an agent, then they should re-design their phone tree to be simpler and more transparant (Capital One, I'm looking pointedly at you).</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-28T20:34:46Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5007082-comment:5406657</id>
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    <title>Comment from losiek on 2008-04-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>losiek</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Amex is the best - their IVR recognizes that and routes you to an agent asap. Most others SUCK!</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-28T20:33:12Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5007082-comment:5406512</id>
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    <title>Comment from friendlynerd on 2008-04-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>friendlynerd</name>
        <uri>http://</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>I'll go through about 3 hoops before I start hitting 0,  no more</p>]]>
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    <published>2008-04-28T20:26:17Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5007082-comment:5406362</id>
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    <title>Comment from toastydoc on 2008-04-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>toastydoc</name>
        <uri>http://surgicalstrings.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://surgicalstrings.com">
        <![CDATA[<p><p>Guilty</p></p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-04-28T20:19:52Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5007082-comment:5406329</id>
    <thr:in-reply-to ref="tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5007082" type="text/html" href="http://consumerist.com/2008/04/definition-zero-outs---what.html"/>
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    <title>Comment from heavylee-again on 2008-04-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>heavylee-again</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<p>Is it true that many voice recognition systems will transfer you to a rep immediately if you curse at it?</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-04-28T20:17:43Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5007082-comment:5405701</id>
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    <title>Comment from SacraBos on 2008-04-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>SacraBos</name>
        <uri>http://www.sacrabos.com</uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="http://www.sacrabos.com">
        <![CDATA[<p>You know, the first time I make a call, I'll generally go through the tree.  But if they can't get the job done the first time, and it requires me to call back several times, you bet I'll zero-out, curse-out, or anything else to the phone system to get directly to a person.</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-04-28T19:45:22Z</published>
  </entry>

  <entry>
    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2008://1.5007082-comment:5405504</id>
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    <title>Comment from Daniel-Bham on 2008-04-28</title>
    <author>
        <name>Daniel-Bham</name>
        <uri></uri>
    </author>
    <content type="html" xml:lang="en" xml:base="">
        <![CDATA[<p>I guess that includes me...</p>]]>
    </content>
    <published>2008-04-28T19:34:35Z</published>
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