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  <title>Comments for EFF Confirms Comcast Mucks With BitTorrent</title>
  <subtitle>Shoppers bite back.</subtitle>
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    <published>2007-11-29T23:01:59Z</published>
    <updated>2008-05-01T10:13:36Z</updated>
    <title>EFF Confirms Comcast Mucks With BitTorrent</title>
    <summary>--&gt;The elite cyber-squad freedom fighters of the The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) released findings today that Comcast does indeed meddle with peer-to-peer file sharing. They&apos;re also giving away some software you can install to test your own ISP. The FCC still has yet to respond to complaints and reports of Comcast&apos;s interference.</summary>
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      <![CDATA[<p><!--<img alt="unhappyblocks.jpg" src="http://consumerist.com/images/resources/2007/11/unhappyblocks.jpg" class="left" width="178" height="146" />-->The elite cyber-squad freedom fighters of the The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) released findings today that <a href="http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071128-eff-study-reveals-evidence-of-comcasts-bittorrent-interference.html">Comcast does indeed meddle</a> with peer-to-peer file sharing. They're also giving away <a href="http://www.eff.org/wp/detecting-packet-injection">some software you can install</a> to test your own ISP. The FCC still has yet to respond to complaints and reports of Comcast's interference.</p>

<p><a href="http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20071128-eff-study-reveals-evidence-of-comcasts-bittorrent-interference.html">EFF Releases Reports and Software to Spot Interference with Internet Traffic</a> [EFF]</p>]]>
      
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2007://1.328022-comment:3156930</id>
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    <title>Comment from pyloff on 2007-12-01</title>
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        <name>pyloff</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>media one for the win!</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-12-01T07:17:19Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2007://1.328022-comment:3144541</id>
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    <title>Comment from Rectilinear Propagation on 2007-11-30</title>
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        <name>Rectilinear Propagation</name>
        <uri>http://rectpropagation.livejournal.com/</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>Has anyone checked Charter using the program? I meant to yesterday and forgot.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-11-30T20:39:48Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2007://1.328022-comment:3138432</id>
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    <title>Comment from Papa Midnight on 2007-11-29</title>
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        <name>Papa Midnight</name>
        <uri>http://www.thesupersoldiers.com</uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c3131315" rel="nofollow">Cowboys_fan</a>: Encryption doesn't defeat deep packet inspection which Comcast employs. And for the genius about to post the drop RST packets and "Linux ftw" crap, congratulations, you just created a useless "Half-open connection".</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-11-30T04:45:24Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2007://1.328022-comment:3136225</id>
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    <title>Comment from Ass_Cobra on 2007-11-29</title>
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        <name>Ass_Cobra</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>@<a href="http://consumerist.com/consumer/file-sharing/eff-confirms-comcast-mucks-with-bittorrent-328022.php#c3132318" rel="nofollow">r4__</a>:</p><br />
<p>Absolutely, they start shredding the "we're just a pipe, like for water ya know?" defense. Additionally it begins to open them up for damages due to service interruptions. Imagine someone that legitimately uses torrent services to transmit large work-product files...say a graphic designer. Now imagine that person is unable to send an important deliverable because Comcast has been mucking about with their connection. I'm in no way saying it's a slam dunk to prove they did it or prove damages but it certainly edges them a lot closer to taking responsiblity for economic effects of service disruptions.</p></p>]]>
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    <published>2007-11-30T02:45:51Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2007://1.328022-comment:3134104</id>
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    <title>Comment from axiomatic on 2007-11-29</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>My favorite part is when people think the encryption makes the data packet larger. Actually all encryption does is make the transmitting computer CPU and the receiving end computer CPU work a little harder doing the encrypting/decrypting of the payload.(Like 2%, if that!) MTU will still be 1500 people.</p>
<p>Encryption is good, use it.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-11-30T01:25:01Z</published>
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  <entry>
    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2007://1.328022-comment:3132318</id>
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    <title>Comment from r4__ on 2007-11-29</title>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c3131102" rel="nofollow">stanfrombrooklyn</a>: It's being debated right now, actually. The problem is, when they start mucking with traffic they begin to lose the right to claim that they don't know what's being transmitted on their networks, and will then be somewhat culpable for aiding the various crimes that their users may commit.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-11-30T00:21:01Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2007://1.328022-comment:3131733</id>
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    <title>Comment from rhombopteryx on 2007-11-29</title>
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        <name>rhombopteryx</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>@<a href="http://consumerist.com/consumer/file-sharing/eff-confirms-comcast-mucks-with-bittorrent-328022.php#c3131315" rel="nofollow">Cowboys_fan</a>: <br />Yeah, encryption... because your dealyed or dropped packets aren't slow enough already.</p><br />
<p>Ture, while it might stop the ISP from figuring out what's in the packet and therefore <i>maybe</i> stop them from interfering, maybe instead we should be asking "why do we have to get into an arms race with our own ISP that we pay to carry packets for us?"</p><br />
<p>As <a href="http://consumerist.com/consumer/file-sharing/eff-confirms-comcast-mucks-with-bittorrent-328022.php#c3131451" rel="nofollow">Buran</a> points out, how about just getting them to do the right thing, rather than the probably illegal thing?</p></p>]]>
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    <published>2007-11-29T23:56:05Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2007://1.328022-comment:3131451</id>
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    <title>Comment from Buran on 2007-11-29</title>
    <author>
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        <![CDATA[<p>@<a href="#c3131102" rel="nofollow">stanfrombrooklyn</a>: They're carrying out a man in the middle attack and impersonating other people. Last I checked that's illegal.</p>]]>
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    <published>2007-11-29T23:45:41Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2007://1.328022-comment:3131315</id>
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    <title>Comment from Cowboys_fan on 2007-11-29</title>
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        <name>Cowboys_fan</name>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>Encryption!</p></p>]]>
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    <published>2007-11-29T23:40:37Z</published>
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    <id>tag:64.14.177.195,2007://1.328022-comment:3131102</id>
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    <title>Comment from stanfrombrooklyn on 2007-11-29</title>
    <author>
        <name>stanfrombrooklyn</name>
        <uri></uri>
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        <![CDATA[<p><p>Does an ISP have the legal right to block or slow down access to certain sites based? Or is it a situation where they can do whatever they want?</p></p>]]>
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    <published>2007-11-29T23:30:04Z</published>
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