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Appears to have been convicted of larceny in NC in 1998. Obviously hasn't rehabilitated yet...
Appears to have been convicted of larceny in NC in 1998. Obviously hasn't rehabilitated yet...
wish I thought of that.
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Back in the older web days, (some foolish) people used to embed their business directly into the HTML. That is, put product name and price into the forms. Thus, if you modified the HTML that listed the $200 item into a $20 item, you could literally 'name your own price' for the things you wanted.
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The question is, did QVC fix this exploit?
@Mantari: Those were the good old days... I never tried that though, in fear that they would cancel my order and I would lose my money.
My family gives holiday gifts to our FedEx delivery man (same guy for 8 years), perhaps this woman gave that UPS driver a little something for his troubles as well. Must've been a pain to be making a delivery basically several times a week, every week.
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She got caught because she got lazy and sent the items to the auction winners still in their QVC boxes. I would bet she didn't even open them.
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@mantari:
I know people who've abused price match policies in the same way. They save the web page, change the price, and then print it out and take it to the store. The min. wage clerk doesn't know the difference, so they assume it's a legit ad and refund some money.
It's interesting that QVC shipping orders that have been cancelled ends up in a criminal charge for the woman.
Admittedly it was dishonest to continue to exploit the situation, but the problem was still a result of QVC's system.
If I ordered something, then decided that I'd changed my mind and cancelled, I would like to think that I wouldn't get arrested if the company subsequently shipped it to me anyway.
AndyJ76, it's not like she accidentally cancelled and received one or two things. That may have happened at first. But then she used that to steal from the company and then sell the stuff to make money.
@andyj76: It all comes down to the intent -- the \"mens rea\" component. INAL but her actions would seem constitute fraudulent and when done with a \"guilty conscience\" would certainly be illegal.
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@stinerman: best buy and the like no longer accept web page print outs. you have to have the actual paper ad, i assume just for the reason you gave.
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@andyj76:
You also have the selling the stuff on eBay component to the story too, so you definitely have criminal intent.
Well, I hope she gave the two eBay-buyer rats bad feedback.
Good on this lady for working the system, i wish her luck in her defense.
Wow, that is a huge bug in QVC's system.
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I bet if someone tried to defraud my business like that, the police would just laugh and tell me to take her to court. But because it's a big corporation . . .
Oh... does ANYONE know the seller name for this person? It would be interesting to look at those auctions and the feedback.
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@bbbici: If you think this woman had it going on, may I ask if you've ever heard of Joseph Jett? Prepare to have a new hero...
@andyj76: You wouldn't be liable if you contacted the vendor and tried to arrange for a return of the product. You can't keep the product if you didn't pay for it.
@ISMITH: as if the UPS guys are volunteers? WTF do they care who buys what? They're going to deliver 100 stops a day and get a paycheck no matter what. Of course my mailman does everything in his power to get out of picking up my priority mail packages. I told him if he didn't want to pickup and deliver package, maybe he shouldn't be a F@#$@# mailman! I just make sure and buy the insurance.....
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@SBR249: Actually, anything you receive in the mail that you didn't order is essentially a gift from the vendor. See previous thread: [consumerist.com]
Yes, according to above, found here: [www.ftc.gov] she may not be legally liable for any charges. But I'm no lawyer.
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Quantina. Wow. You would think that someone with a name like Quantina would strive to prove stereotypes wrong....
How could she not be legally liable when she admitted that she used the scam to steal $400,000 + in merchandise from QVC and then sell the stolen merchandise on ebay?
She's not an innocent victim in this, she would cancel orders so she could steal from QVC. And then sell some of the merchandise to make money off of it. It doesn't sound much different than someone figuring out how to steal from a physical store and then selling the stolen goods.
She made an order, she cancelled an order. If QVC didn't ship the goods, she wouldn't get the goods. It's not illegal to order something and then cancel it.
It is most definitely immoral to keep exploiting the system in order to receive goods that you are not entitled to, but it's not illegal to place an order and then cancel it.
If I go into IKEA and order some furniture for delivery and then change my mind, that's not shoplifting, even if they subsequently deliver it to my house.
Personally, I would phone IKEA up and say \"Hey, I changed my mind and you delivered this crap to my door\"
If QVC could correctly handle cancelled orders, this would be a non-issue
She made and cancelled orders specifically to steal from QVC. I'm no expert in the law, but I'm pretty sure once there's intent to steal or defraud a company those actions become illegal.
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@ismith:
Must've been a pain to be making a delivery basically several times a week, every week.
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Isn't the delivery man getting paid to deliver packages?
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Now I wonder how many people are going to order from QVC today and then immediately cancel their orders. I'm also curious to know how many other people have exploited this without getting caught.