Anyways, I constantly worry about expensive toys being stolen, so for the most part I don't advertise the fact that I have them. Anything in the car gets put out of sight (anything), and I don't drive an expensive car yet so it's quite conspicuous.

@Chicago7: how very mature of you.

@superbmtsub: No, his movies are classified by him as documentaries. They are not. They are highly skewed opinion pieces. If people saw them as such then I would have no problem with them. But since he markets them as based in fact, that makes him a fraud.

As for both of you -- is there a reason that neither of you is willing to actually come back at me with anything of substance? I outlined my arguments and in response you two throw back at me the intellectual equivalent of "nuh-uh" and "you're a poo-poo head."

if this is what passes for intellectual debate in our society, then I weep for your children. You have failed them.

Hint: Key words are "violent" and "crimes"

His movies are movies. There's nothing else to discuss. But if you claim you saw the movie and want to quote it, at least do a good job at it.

Nuff said.

@superbmtsub: Just for my hunble edification, to which "false statements" do you refer?

And for clarification, what I am talking about is his grossly inaccurate portrayal of a country where there are more guns per capita than the U.S. but he still attempts to portray Canada as a far more peaceful nation. He does this through the use of false statistics (yes, they have been proves false). He also makes a big production in the movie about being able to walk right into homes in Canada where their doors are just left unlocked. The clear implication being that there is so little crime in Canada that its residents have no fear of leaving their front doors wide open.

Now, if you want to argue "facts", then let's look at the unabashed, and undebatable fact that Mr. Moore's movies fabricate statistics and are a remarkable testament to creative film-editing. His movies are so heavily edited that he literally pieces together portions of people's statements to make them into something that was never uttered. Don't believe me? Do some research. It's everywhere. He's been proven to be a fraud. Anyone who denies it is sorely mis-informed.

"Debate Intellectually" with someone who doesn't know what they're talking about? WOW That's an amazing idea! /sarcasm

Don't make me laugh. There's no point in debate until you retract your false statements. Then we're on equal footing.

I lock stuff in the trunk. But the other day it occurred to me that anyone who broke a window and got into the car could sit in the driver's seat, reach down, and pull the trunk release lever *in the car*. :-(

*Saturn center shoulder seatbelt

@superbmtsub: Yup, I've seen all of his crappy-ass movies. Do you want to debate them intellectually with me or do you just want to tell me to shut the f#ck up? Cuz the latter certainly is the more mature way to make your point. /sarcasm

@Chicago7: Yup, I am absolutely being a dick. But just for the record, I'm an equal opportunity dick. I think both Rush Limbaugh and Michael Moore are full of sh!t. They are liars and miscreants. Also, let's not forget Michael Savage, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, and Bill O'Reilly.

The only reason any of these people make money is because a huge portion of the populace is incapable of thinking for themselves.

Liars and miscreants. All of them.

Yeah, sure. But it being Canada, after they smash your window and steal your new goodies, they leave a While You Were Away card with a smiley-face on it.

The moral of the story is to buy your big-ticket stuff last and take it straight home.

I guess that's one more reason to live out in the country. Out there there's typically 1/4 mile of private lane between your house and the main road. Someone follows you up the lane, you know they aren't up to any good.

... and a note to the article: O LOVELY CANADA!

Oh, man, we're generally nice people, not retarded. And a good number of us aren't anything close to sainthood.

Anything you don't want to lose gets locked in the trunk. Period. Out of sight, out of mind.

Seriously, though, it simply always pays to be wary. Thieves tend to go for the easiest targets - $500 easy dollars is more economic than $1,000 potentially hard ones. Don't be an easy target.

Yay campus police!

Friend of mine in FLorida had her purse stolen out of her front seat when the guy smashed her window.... while she was in it.... while the car was moving! (He had the gun. If she had tried using one she would be dead.)

Don't leave ANYTHING of value visible inside your car regardless if you are shopping or not! My city is notorious for smash and grabs. My friend had her car window smashed in; the only thing the thief stole was a roll of paper towels in the back seat! That's right...paper towels.

@Buran:

Simple.... if you can... get a bag for said expensive item so noone knows what it is when you carry it to your car (when I bought my laptop at best buy I carried it out in a big bag[I got an extra special cheap deal... otherwise I dont shop at best buy] . Obviously with bigger items you cant do this. In that case you drive straight home & just make sure noone's following you. Its also smart to wait til night before lugging in that BIG plasma tv to keep your scumbag neighbors from seeing what you just bought. I believe chris rock made a joke about this that "unless you want to get all your stuff stolen... wait til night before moving your things into the house".... or somethin like that.

an inexpensive car and inexpensive clothing makes you a lesser target, I mean which would you rob? the nicely dressed lady that drive a BMW or some guy that came out of a Honda Accord that is an old model?

don't ever talk about crime ridden jersey unless you're sure to specify north jersey.

that shit is hardly a frequent occurrence around where i live

even still,

I make sure if I'm a bad area in north jersey... lol ... okay Burlington City, I always take my faceplate off my radio and stash it. I don't leave valuables or my ipod on the seat. Just stash 'em in the back or in the console.

WOW! Those canucks are REALLY on the ball! :rolleyes:

Is this a joke? You know... most of us crime-savvy americans know that this can happen. Heck! I only take out my ipod (to attach it to my car stereo)when I am out of my neighborhood (I live in a decent neighborhood btw, but I am not taking any chances) & well on the highway. I also dont blast my car stereo system when I near my destination (be it in a store's parking lot or as I near my home). If you want to keep what is yours... it only makes sense NOT to needlessless show it off to just anybody!

Its also wise not to leave large empty boxes (that once held high-ticket electronics) out for the trash pickup (because you just advertised to your neighborhood that you now own a brand new expensive plasma tv just ready for theft!).

One thing I hate is how when I drive thru my neighborhood in the evening.... there are homes with window shades wide open showcasing that giant plasma tv in the living room. What people dont realize is that thieves are just ALWAYS on the lookout for oportunity. Its like second nature to them to notice vulnerabilities & opportunities that normal people dont even think about.

If you want to keep what is yours.... you have to be smart.

I worked in Canada for a few weeks a couple years ago and bought a DVD box set one afternoon before I went sightseeing.

I left it on the passenger seat in the bag, had a nice afternoon, and came back to a smashed window and no DVD.

Locals told me that car theft is a BIG issue and homeless looking to score money for drugs will often break into cars for spare change. So their solution? Don't lock your car.

Are you just being a dick or what? Michael Moore didn't say anything like that.

You want misinformation, look up some of Rush Limbaugh's "facts".

I thought he was just weird, or mad that I didn't buy the stereo from him...

1:buy expensive electronics (be sure to be flashy about it)

2:on the way to another store have your passenger remove said electronics from the box, and either booby trap it, or gps track it.

3: go to another store

4: hurt the potential theifs or profit after you track them back to their home.

Then they follow the delivery van.

Why not just pull into your local police station on the way home? Or drive like a bat out of hell so if you are being followed, you know it? If the cops pull you over, just tell them you thought a car was following you home from the store. Crying helps.

Delivered to your house.

Friend waits outside or goes to another store while you buy expensive electronics.

You put expensive electronics in your car and drive to the fast food burger joint where you go inside and sit down and have a meal while leaving your electronics out of sight in your vehicle.

Your friend parks nearby and waits for thieves to strike. He or she then strikes back with:

A baseball bat
A gun
or their car.

EVER

We've been hering about this more often lately. Moreso in the US news than Canadian news. Remember the PS3 release? A lot of people were followed, and one person went to another launch line and had his car broken into there. Made news on Kotaku, I believe (yes, I count an $800 PS3 as a big ticket electronic purchase).

Now wait just a minute! I thought Michael Moore specifically told us that there was no crime in Canada. I remember in Bowling for Columbine (or as I like to call it, "Canada is Better Than Everyone") that Canadians leave everything unlocked because there's no crime.

He wasn't peddling misinformation, was he?

Pixies?