Please try to check your facts before your knee jerks."

Yes, old Freddy may well have used a Totenkopf insignia but not the specific design in question, ie. the skull on the t-shirt.

The wiki page cited includes a link to the relevant info at this url:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Division_Totenkopf

Please double-check your facts before your knee jerks.

you know what, just go read it.......

Please try to check your facts before your knee jerks.

IMHO, this isn't worth the fuss it's about - we should be focusing on hating Wal Mart for reducing people to poverty and desperation around the world. Fighting them for one stupid T-shirt designed by one guy who no doubt thought he was a total rebel is a waste of energy to me.

There are a bunch of USSR themed clothing stores called defect, and they are not banned at all...

For example, if it were up to me, you wouldn't be able to buy a shirt with the Confederate Flag on it, as I consider it to be the flag of traitors. But I support the rights of stores to sell it and people to buy it.

Sometimes, you have to let people make their own choices.

Add this offense to a list, and don't support them in doing this- however, it's no one's business here to dictate how capitalism is carried out in any way beyond that.

I live in Bowling Green, and I find your comment personally offensive. You're making derogatory remarks about a whole town, while at the same time mentioning the fact that you're a jew? How does that not imply that everyone in Bowling Green is racist? How can that be anything other than an amazingly prejudice thing to say, especially when you're talking about being able to identify archaic nazi iconography?

And why would an oversight by the management at WalMart show that my town is full of "inbred hillbillies"?

And what is wrong with a shirt with a historical emblem?

do you think toy and hobby shops should not be allowed to sell miniature German army figurines and vehicles, etc?

last time i checked walmart gets 46% of its goods from china, which has horrible human rights abuses and was also the enemy of the UN during the korean war."

I agree with bbbici. I saw a documentary on a factory in China with sweatshop like conditions making jeans for Walmart. The women there are underpaid, not paid on time, and overworked. Instead of doing something about that, here we are complaining about a symbol on a t-shirt, talk about having nothing better to do.

LOVE these apologists trolling the site.

Hey, Ron just remember: if Wal-Mart can't sell poisoned pet food b/c shipping them back is $0.03 more expensive, then the terrorists have won!

Seriously, though, it is neither particularly clever not is it that intelligent to directly copy such a loathsome symbol (compare the above symbol pictured on the shirts to the one found here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SS_Division_Totenkopf) onto a commercial product and then have the world's larget retailer sell it; at the very least, the designer of the shirt was smart enough to not use "Seit jahre 1939".

**involved actually means that the U.N might actually do something after a decade long hiatus, shocking isn't it?

Thats not tricky, its illegal and considered theft.

You can bet that they would let a t-shirt sit on the shelf that depicted Sam Walton having sexual relations with a billy goat. I'm fairly certain you wouldn't be able to find THAT shirt weeks or months later.

Correct. _That_ peanut butter. The salmonella containing creamy spread of doom that was yanked from store shelves weeks ago. I'm curious to know why it was still in the store, and if it winds up back on the shelves.

2. the reason I had her buy a shirt is because I wanted to make sure we had photographic proof that they were STILL on the shelves, and I though a dated receipt would be the best way to accomplish that.

3. In response to all the folks who say that buying the shirts encourages wal-mart to keep them on the shelves: Obviously, nothing that anyone (including members of congress) has said or done makes the slightest difference in wal-mart's unwillingness or inability to remove the shirts from the stores.

4. to explain exactly how she got a shirt out of the store....apparently, my sister is more tricky than flirtatious. She simply had the guy scan a different shirt for the same price, explaining that "she was in a hurry."

The problem here isn't that she was able to obtain a shirt, but that 22 weeks later, the shirts are still on the shelves, and the managers and other employees OBVIOUSLY are unaware of the situation. Making the shirts 'unsellable' in the computer system is apparently the only thing wal-mart has successfully done in response- far from an adequate remedy to this situation.

5. As to what should be done with the shirt....being a bit of a pyro myself, I sort of really like the notion of setting it on fire...perhaps in a wal-mart parking lot? I'm going to look into the statutory restrictions on civil disobedience here in ohio. (maybe arson too?) However, if people have better ideas, we're def open to suggestion.

6. (and finally, sorry this is turning into quite the manifesto) in response to pestie... "who's hotter ali or ali's seester?" I def am....good thing that's settled.

Hope you guys have an update for poisoned pet food on Wal-Mart shelves. Also hope you do an update to the "Yahoo deletes all 300 services based on unexplained, imcomprehensible user 'error'" story. You guys said you sent an email to Yahoo for clarification. I remember snickering to myself thinking, "yeah THAT will work..."

Seriously. No snark.

Can you follow up on these? Shame these guys into doing the right thing.

Thanks!

I think more people should call them. She seems to know nothing about the shirts or letter from Congress, or the fact that the shirts are supposed to be flagged in the system.

do you think toy and hobby shops should not be allowed to sell miniature German army figurines and vehicles, etc?

last time i checked walmart gets 46% of its goods from china, which has horrible human rights abuses and was also the enemy of the UN during the korean war.

True, the computer system was blocking the sale.

Problem is, it seems all the actual human employees at the store weren't made aware of what the computer was aware of (the managers, those handling stock, chashier, etc).

Forced is a strong word.

I doubt the cashier realized the concern with the shirts, saying "Congress said these shirts shouldn't be sold, but your sexuality has forced me to sell them to you!"

Perhaps I'm missing the point but she seems to go to great lengths to buy the shirt, going so far as to have her sister scour the country-side for the item, and then put on a show for the checkout boy.

The correct next course of action would be
a.) return the item after documenting
b.) return the item with the action news team and holocaust survivors in tow.
c.) NEVER SHOP AT WALMART

That has nothing to do with them taking a product off the shelf. Just like with the tainted pet food, they should have had the UPCs flag at the register, but that backfired with the pet food as well. Plain and simple, Wal-mart drops the ball again... even when I worked for them in college, it was the same thing every day, management dropping the ball on everything.

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